Demetrius Jackson knee injury

[HurricaneVision]

One of my favorite players on our team. Gritty with a heart of gold.

Anyone more knowledgeable than me know if he plays SDE or WDE? If he's on the left side, Garvin will have to step up, if on the right, DJJ

He's a weakside DE for the most part. Remember the play where UNC ran to the QB's left and Demetrius tipped the ball away from an open receiver? That play came from the WDE.

He backs up J. Jackson, plays inside on some downs, and is extremely smart and sound in his assignments.

It's a big loss. Garvin is more talented, but not physically developed, nor does he have the experience to make some of the heady plays that D. Jax makes. You might end up getting enough splash plays from Garvin to make it nearly a wash though.

DJ Johnson has had trouble getting the RB to the ground thus far. He's been in position a few times, only to miss the tackle.

 

[rayray]

he has the same number of sacks and TFL as joe jackson in less snaps... our depth is great of course but it's still a big loss, especially this weekend vs a team that wants to run the ball

 

[Bird4um]

Any word on what the knee injury is?

 

[rok]

Any word on what the knee injury is?

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[Bird4um]

anything on this yet?

 

[Ibis4life]

anything on this yet?

I don't believe they ever confirmed what the injury was, but the fact that there was a possiblity before surgery that he may have been able to return during the season pretty much says it wasn't ACL or PCL. Most likely a colateral ligament or meniscus. If so, he should be ready for spring football.

 

[chris2183l]

Pete posted something on twitter a few weeks ago about D-Jax being primed for a big senior season and I commented underneath it asking what his knee injury was and he said Meniscus. D Jax actually saw the tweet and also replied to it saying meniscus...

anything on this yet?

I don't believe they ever confirmed what the injury was, but the fact that there was a possiblity before surgery that he may have been able to return during the season pretty much says it wasn't ACL or PCL. Most likely a colateral ligament or meniscus. If so, he should be ready for spring football.

 

[Bird4um]

So what does a meniscus injury entail?

 

[dukemv]

So what does a meniscus injury entail?

Do you mean what does the recovery process entail?

If so, not everybody needs surgery. Usually RICE works. I guess his injury mustve been pretty bad, or in a bad place on the cartilage, but there isn't much to the rehab process, from my understanding.

 

[chris2183l]

It's much better than tearing an ACL with a much quicker recovery time. I would think he should be back in time for spring practice, but with our depth concerns on the DL I wouldn't rush him back if he isn't 100%...Either way he should have no issues being full go in time for next season.

So what does a meniscus injury entail?

 

[Bird4um]

Sounds good.... Good news

Veterans sitting out give the young guys a lot more needed reps in the spring.

I think this spring Irvin makes a big jump, but the freshmen could use the time to get ready.... Here is to hoping those two are head and shoulders above all...

 

[scrantoncane]

One of my favorite players on our team. Gritty with a heart of gold.

Anyone more knowledgeable than me know if he plays SDE or WDE? If he's on the left side, Garvin will have to step up, if on the right, DJJ

He's a weakside DE for the most part. Remember the play where UNC ran to the QB's left and Demetrius tipped the ball away from an open receiver? That play came from the WDE.

He backs up J. Jackson, plays inside on some downs, and is extremely smart and sound in his assignments.

It's a big loss. Garvin is more talented, but not physically developed, nor does he have the experience to make some of the heady plays that D. Jax makes. You might end up getting enough splash plays from Garvin to make it nearly a wash though.

DJ Johnson has had trouble getting the RB to the ground thus far. He's been in position a few times, only to miss the tackle.

I’m a little surprised by this analysis.

Obviously you watch film with a closer and more well trained eye, but from what I saw watching DJax’s game, I think he will take Chads spot next year.

Didn’t Trent Harris play WDE his fresh, soon and jr years? (I’m asking - that may be inaccurate.) This year Trent backed up Chad at SDE and took his spots on passing downs. I think that was in part to get joe Jackson on the field and maximize his snaps. And JJ played a lot on passing and rushing downs.

When I look at DJax game, I think he might be our strongest DE physically. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him move over to SDE and keep JJ and Garvin at WDE.


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[calinative umstudent]

Joe Jackson and Demetrius Jackson to SDE imo.

 

[SWFLSWAGG17]

So what does a meniscus injury entail?

Do you mean what does the recovery process entail?

If so, not everybody needs surgery. Usually RICE works. I guess his injury mustve been pretty bad, or in a bad place on the cartilage, but there isn't much to the rehab process, from my understanding.

I tore my meniscus, had a scope and was back to dikking around in 7 weeks. Problem is I recently re tore it and have no health insurance. How does the rice thing work? It is not painful but I can't keep any balance on the leg when I shift my weight to it. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Sounds good.... Good news

Veterans sitting out give the young guys a lot more needed reps in the spring.

I think this spring Irvin makes a big jump, but the freshmen could use the time to get ready.... Here is to hoping those two are head and shoulders above all...

A note of importance here, there hasn't been any (recent) news in this thread, rather fan base speculation that snowballed from there.

the speculation may very well turn out to be right, but there aren't official details, or a note from a reputable source on the injury yet.

So what does a meniscus injury entail?

Do you mean what does the recovery process entail?

If so, not everybody needs surgery. Usually RICE works. I guess his injury mustve been pretty bad, or in a bad place on the cartilage, but there isn't much to the rehab process, from my understanding.

I tore my meniscus, had a scope and was back to dikking around in 7 weeks. Problem is I recently re tore it and have no health insurance. How does the rice thing work? It is not painful but I can't keep any balance on the leg when I shift my weight to it. Any advice is appreciated.

Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. RICE.

 

[HurricaneVision]

One of my favorite players on our team. Gritty with a heart of gold.

Anyone more knowledgeable than me know if he plays SDE or WDE? If he's on the left side, Garvin will have to step up, if on the right, DJJ

He's a weakside DE for the most part. Remember the play where UNC ran to the QB's left and Demetrius tipped the ball away from an open receiver? That play came from the WDE.

He backs up J. Jackson, plays inside on some downs, and is extremely smart and sound in his assignments.

It's a big loss. Garvin is more talented, but not physically developed, nor does he have the experience to make some of the heady plays that D. Jax makes. You might end up getting enough splash plays from Garvin to make it nearly a wash though.

DJ Johnson has had trouble getting the RB to the ground thus far. He's been in position a few times, only to miss the tackle.

I’m a little surprised by this analysis.

Obviously you watch film with a closer and more well trained eye, but from what I saw watching DJax’s game, I think he will take Chads spot next year.

Didn’t Trent Harris play WDE his fresh, soon and jr years? (I’m asking - that may be inaccurate.) This year Trent backed up Chad at SDE and took his spots on passing downs. I think that was in part to get joe Jackson on the field and maximize his snaps. And JJ played a lot on passing and rushing downs.

When I look at DJax game, I think he might be our strongest DE physically. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him move over to SDE and keep JJ and Garvin at WDE.


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If you look at the date stamp, that was analysis on what he was doing at that point-in-time for us. He mostly was playing WDE at the time. As for next year, I absolutely agree he moves to the SDE position and will probably even start for us. Joe Jackson/Garvin get most of the snaps at WDE, with Rousseau maybe seeing some time there. D Jax/Patchan/Recruits see a lot of snaps at the SDE spot.

The good thing is a lot of our DL can move around quite a bit and are versatile. It shows we could use another DE though.

 

[calinative umstudent]

One of my favorite players on our team. Gritty with a heart of gold.

Anyone more knowledgeable than me know if he plays SDE or WDE? If he's on the left side, Garvin will have to step up, if on the right, DJJ

He's a weakside DE for the most part. Remember the play where UNC ran to the QB's left and Demetrius tipped the ball away from an open receiver? That play came from the WDE.

He backs up J. Jackson, plays inside on some downs, and is extremely smart and sound in his assignments.

It's a big loss. Garvin is more talented, but not physically developed, nor does he have the experience to make some of the heady plays that D. Jax makes. You might end up getting enough splash plays from Garvin to make it nearly a wash though.

DJ Johnson has had trouble getting the RB to the ground thus far. He's been in position a few times, only to miss the tackle.

I’m a little surprised by this analysis.

Obviously you watch film with a closer and more well trained eye, but from what I saw watching DJax’s game, I think he will take Chads spot next year.

Didn’t Trent Harris play WDE his fresh, soon and jr years? (I’m asking - that may be inaccurate.) This year Trent backed up Chad at SDE and took his spots on passing downs. I think that was in part to get joe Jackson on the field and maximize his snaps. And JJ played a lot on passing and rushing downs.

When I look at DJax game, I think he might be our strongest DE physically. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him move over to SDE and keep JJ and Garvin at WDE.


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If you look at the date stamp, that was analysis on what he was doing at that point-in-time for us. He mostly was playing WDE at the time. As for next year, I absolutely agree he moves to the SDE position and will probably even start for us. Joe Jackson/Garvin get most of the snaps at WDE, with Rousseau maybe seeing some time there. D Jax/Patchan/Recruits see a lot of snaps at the SDE spot.

The good thing is a lot of our DL can move around quite a bit and are versatile. It shows we could use another DE though.

I kinda agree, but I don't think Demetrius will be getting all that many more snaps at DE than Garvin will. Obviously he will continue to slide down to 3tech in pass situations like we did last year as well

I think Joe Jackson and Jon Garvin will be on the field a whole lot together which would put Joe Jackson at SDE. He is 6'5" 250lbs, and could put on another 5-10 this offseason.

 

[HurricaneVision]

One of my favorite players on our team. Gritty with a heart of gold.

Anyone more knowledgeable than me know if he plays SDE or WDE? If he's on the left side, Garvin will have to step up, if on the right, DJJ

He's a weakside DE for the most part. Remember the play where UNC ran to the QB's left and Demetrius tipped the ball away from an open receiver? That play came from the WDE.

He backs up J. Jackson, plays inside on some downs, and is extremely smart and sound in his assignments.

It's a big loss. Garvin is more talented, but not physically developed, nor does he have the experience to make some of the heady plays that D. Jax makes. You might end up getting enough splash plays from Garvin to make it nearly a wash though.

DJ Johnson has had trouble getting the RB to the ground thus far. He's been in position a few times, only to miss the tackle.

I’m a little surprised by this analysis.

Obviously you watch film with a closer and more well trained eye, but from what I saw watching DJax’s game, I think he will take Chads spot next year.

Didn’t Trent Harris play WDE his fresh, soon and jr years? (I’m asking - that may be inaccurate.) This year Trent backed up Chad at SDE and took his spots on passing downs. I think that was in part to get joe Jackson on the field and maximize his snaps. And JJ played a lot on passing and rushing downs.

When I look at DJax game, I think he might be our strongest DE physically. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him move over to SDE and keep JJ and Garvin at WDE.


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If you look at the date stamp, that was analysis on what he was doing at that point-in-time for us. He mostly was playing WDE at the time. As for next year, I absolutely agree he moves to the SDE position and will probably even start for us. Joe Jackson/Garvin get most of the snaps at WDE, with Rousseau maybe seeing some time there. D Jax/Patchan/Recruits see a lot of snaps at the SDE spot.

The good thing is a lot of our DL can move around quite a bit and are versatile. It shows we could use another DE though.

I kinda agree, but I don't think Demetrius will be getting all that many more snaps at DE than Garvin will. Obviously he will continue to slide down to 3tech in pass situations like we did last year as well

I think Joe Jackson and Jon Garvin will be on the field a whole lot together which would put Joe Jackson at SDE. He is 6'5" 250lbs, and could put on another 5-10 this offseason.

It's entirely possible that J Jackson plays SDE for the majority of snaps and that gets our two best pass rushers on the field at the same time, but it's really important to stop the run first and foremost on early downs. If J Jackson shows he can do that- while also learning opposite handed techniques- then it's great for us. It's not always easy for every player to just flip to the other side and be as effective, but J Jackson is a freak, so maybe he'll do it without incident.

My guess is they try to get as much mileage as they can out of J Jackson and Garvin by playing them in all passing situations and finding ways to play other players on more traditional running plays. We will move our DE's inside to DT on a lot of passing downs as well (as you stated), and that's something we have done a bunch with both D Jax and J Jackson in the past.

I've always been a bigger fan of Scott Patchan than many on this board, so I believe if he's healthy he can help us at SDE. His length, quickness, and tenacity were big assets before the knee injury. If he still has the quicks to go with the length and tenacity, he will surprise.

 

[KrazyCane]

Time for Pat Bethel to move back to SDE.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

So what does a meniscus injury entail?

Do you mean what does the recovery process entail?

If so, not everybody needs surgery. Usually RICE works. I guess his injury mustve been pretty bad, or in a bad place on the cartilage, but there isn't much to the rehab process, from my understanding.

I tore my meniscus, had a scope and was back to dikking around in 7 weeks. Problem is I recently re tore it and have no health insurance. How does the rice thing work? It is not painful but I can't keep any balance on the leg when I shift my weight to it. Any advice is appreciated.

Get a compression sleeve on that knee to walk around, but take it off on your down time and let time do it’s thing. I’d advice you to boil some water in a big pot and cut a few onions and when it really boiling hot throw the onions in. Let them boil for about 5 -10 min and turn off stove. If you can squeeze out the juice of the onion as you take it out would be great. Them let it cool and put it in the freezer with some honey if you’d like for taste and drink up. I tell you this because I had horrible degenerative arthritis in both knees and (While in the Service I tore my Miniscus and ACL) I stay drinking this home remedy cause it has helped me out. Onion has amazing healing properties. Hope it helps fam