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Dawson is fed up with the inside run talk

jmiller said:
When both Miami and Houston fans have the same complaints about Dawson running up the middle all the time thats too much of a coincidence for me
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the only problem with that is, you forgot to remember the point that you and Houston fans don't know football and he's one of the best offensive coordinators in the country
 
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NC_Canes_11 said:
Being an ******* when you’re asked a legitimate question, is such a bad look. You got your *** handed to you in the run game for 10 straight quarters. So now you don’t always “move people up front.”
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Gives off the “I’m making money to coach and you’re watching the game” vibe. Pretty much saying we all don’t know enough about the game to see an obvious issue
 
jmiller said:
I hear you but this sounds mighty familiar dont you think?
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So i guess that solves the "Mario is calling the run plays" nonsensical interweb rumor




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NC_Canes_11 said:
Being an ******* when you’re asked a legitimate question, is such a bad look. You got your *** handed to you in the run game for 10 straight quarters. So now you don’t always “move people up front.”
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he's always been a smart ***, you just dont like it now that you don't like the results


do you honestly think we got our "*** handed to us for 10 straight quarters"?

honestly - does your dumbass think that's the case when we were up 28-3 to florida state? or that we ran at will over Stanford in the second half?
 
407cane said:
he's always been a smart ***, you just dont like it now that you don't like the results


do you honestly think we got our "*** handed to us for 10 straight quarters"?

honestly - does your dumbass think that's the case when we were up 28-3 to florida state? or that we ran at will over Stanford in the second half?
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“When we were up 28-3”

Lmaooooooooooooo
 
PennsylvaniaCane said:
they had a DT simply shooting the A gap. We are expecting Brockermeyer to execute the snap and get across the DT and move him off the ball? That’s a tall task. Don’t think he got any help from Coop who is locked up with his own guy since Mauigoa is starting to engage with his own as well. Even if Brockermeyer stalemated that DT the play is getting blown up.
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Brockermeyer didn't need to move the DT off the ball he just needed not to get shoved into the backfield and allow the DT to make the tackle. The way CiCi climbed to the LBer makes me think we wanted to run in the right B gap, but Fletcher had to try the C gap cause Brockermeyer had been shoved into his path. If #52 does his job Fletcher gets the first down.

Pretty sure this was the first time we failed to convert 3rd/4th and 2 or less since Brown tripped on the cutback against ND (there was one 3rd we failed against FSU but got it on 4th). There's legit stuff to complain about with our run game this year. Weird to me to get hung up on late down short yardage runs, when we were nearly 100% successful on them for ~6 straight games.
 
McGahee2TheHouse said:
“When we were up 28-3”

Lmaooooooooooooo
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you using lmao with 20 o's like a middle school girl tells me you don't understand football

do you understand how dumb you all sound *****ing about this? that's rhetorical, I know that you do not

you're probably the same few that were talking **** about Dawson after the GT game last year (when we were #1 in every important metric statistically in the entire nation)
 
jmiller said:
I hear you but this sounds mighty familiar dont you think?
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There’s just a lot more to a successful run game than a singular call. It’s the defensive call. It’s the OL splits. It’s the down and distance. It’s ability of a *QB* to keep defenders in conflict and not totally crashing. It’s the variation off tendency. That’s why I scoff at mentioning ‘we did it well last year.’

Dawson could have come here with the exact preferences (people say not) and, if he’s being told to avoid negative plays and emphasize staying on schedule, it’s just a different game to call.

And, that’s my problem with the approach: while our %s for A-gap run calls are higher than I think *currently* makes sense, it builds a tendency that makes us easier to defend IF the QB can’t effectively pull the ball and slice in RPOs.

By the way, 2 of Beck’s best throws looked like RPO calls he ripped in and were plainly dropped. If he can actually do that and our WRs can actually catch and run for a few after, our offense would likely look a lot different in results.

I’ll repeat what I said last week… I don’t know the game technically from the OL/DL. I watch and played the game from coverages forward, but my point is it’s all interdependent.

And, I think underneath it all is too shaky of a decision - according to many, NOT Dawson’s, but I’m not in their meetings - to play it tighter than what I hope we do the remainder of the season.
 
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407cane said:
he's always been a smart ***, you just dont like it now that you don't like the results


do you honestly think we got our "*** handed to us for 10 straight quarters"?

honestly - does your dumbass think that's the case when we were up 28-3 to florida state? or that we ran at will over Stanford in the second half?
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Around 75ish carries for about 200 yards in those 10 quarters. I don’t know how good you are at math, so I’ll answer it for you. It’s ******* terrible. So yea that’s having your *** handed to
you.

Idk what passing well against FSU has to do with the run game.

Dawson is a smart ***, but he’s not condescending toward reporters, until now.
 
I hate the HB dive calls but the line is more limited than the board wants to admit. Bell is massive but can’t move laterally.

Center is super weak and can’t pull and pin

Aneez is knocked and pigeon toed. Good luck with him moving.

LG is slightly above average no matter who is playing.

CiCi is very good but looks a little lingering at times this year. Not sure if he has added too much weight.

Then add your QB is super slow wit no wiggle and your run game is going to be limited.

Got to play smash mouth football.
 
ristwasdown said:
The proper question should have been OL splits and condensed sets which then invites stacked boxes and always hitting a gap.

A follow up question would've been why do we prefer zone over pin and pull.
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And ironically, that 4th and 1 play might have been more successful with a tighter split on the right lol. But yes, you’re 100% right that it invites chaos.
 
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flips said:
Brockermeyer didn't need to move the DT off the ball he just needed not to get shoved into the backfield and allow the DT to make the tackle. The way CiCi climbed to the LBer makes me think we wanted to run in the right B gap, but Fletcher had to try the C gap cause Brockermeyer had been shoved into his path. If #52 does his job Fletcher gets the first down.

Pretty sure this was the first time we failed to convert 3rd/4th and 2 or less since Brown tripped on the cutback against ND (there was one 3rd we failed against FSU but got it on 4th). There's legit stuff to complain about with our run game this year. Weird to me to get hung up on late down short yardage runs, when we were nearly 100% successful on them for ~6 straight games.
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1 because it’s against Stanford
2 because it’s entirely predictable and will happen more and more
3 because doing something different would have led to a first down
 
I really do believe that most people here don’t actually understand the concept of what duo and zone blocking schemes actually are. Dawson is right its not actually designed to just run up the middle. Depending on the run fits from the D, lots of time it is funneled between the tackles though.
 
Genghis Cane said:
And ironically, that 4th and 1 play might have been more successful with a tighter split on the right lol. But yes, you’re 100% right that it invites chaos.
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I'm fine with it on 1-2 to go. We convert a ton. And it allows leak and mesh.

Many teams play bullyball on short to go and then do something else other downs
 
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