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Seems like he’s really been an advocate for the athlete first and foremost. Shouts out Miami in this statement
Seems like he’s really been an advocate for the athlete first and foremost. Shouts out Miami in this statement
Seems like he’s really been an advocate for the athlete first and foremost. Shouts out Miami in this statement
You also know that Heitner believes you have a good case. My nephew consulted with him about trying to get an extra year to play college basketball and Heitner did not think they could win. And I give him credit for that because he did not take their money and gave an honest opinion. That is how good lawyers operate.Well he has been active at the roots of Florida NIL law as he assisted to write the laws for the State of Florida. When you see an athlete with an NIL issue and his representative is Heitner you know the kid is serious.
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I saw this part of the show last night. I thought she was very good, too.
Just personal marketing like everyone does with social media in 2026View attachment 355833
Not disputing that Darren Heitner, Esq. does a fine job representing athletes in current times. Not disputing that Miami hasn't benefitted a ton from his guidance and expertise on this uncharted territory. Not disputing that we haven't landed players directly because of his counsel. Also not disputing anything he said is not factually true. There's just something about reading an over the top, look at me while I pat myself on the back, self-aggrandizing message that never quite sits right with me. If he's THAT good, why the need to make a tweet about it? Based on the 30+ schools he's worked with, it's already known by those who need to know.
First experience with lawyers?View attachment 355833
Not disputing that Darren Heitner, Esq. does a fine job representing athletes in current times. Not disputing that Miami hasn't benefitted a ton from his guidance and expertise on this uncharted territory. Not disputing that we haven't landed players directly because of his counsel. Also not disputing anything he said is not factually true. There's just something about reading an over the top, look at me while I pat myself on the back, self-aggrandizing message that never quite sits right with me. If he's THAT good, why the need to make a tweet about it? Based on the 30+ schools he's worked with, it's already known by those who need to know.
Literally lol'ed.Just personal marketing like everyone does with social media in 2026
He just did an ad for himself that’s gonna generate a stupid ROI that cost him nothing and about 10 seconds
But I’ll put on my old man cap and scream at the ocean with you, brother
Haha. No sir. Not at all. I've wasted, er spent, plenty of money on a couple of them for different reasons. I just left that layer out of my other old person commentary.First experience with lawyers?
I generally agree with you. I never advertise as a lawyer and have always felt that word of mouth is the best marketing possible (and it has proven to be true). BUT, Heitner is effectively marketing himself through social media as you know. I don’t care for it, but I can understand why he’s doing it. He’s basically telling the next person who needs an attorney to come to him.View attachment 355833
Not disputing that Darren Heitner, Esq. does a fine job representing athletes in current times. Not disputing that Miami hasn't benefitted a ton from his guidance and expertise on this uncharted territory. Not disputing that we haven't landed players directly because of his counsel. Also not disputing anything he said is not factually true. There's just something about reading an over the top, look at me while I pat myself on the back, self-aggrandizing message that never quite sits right with me. If he's THAT good, why the need to make a tweet about it? Based on the 30+ schools he's worked with, it's already known by those who need to know.
“**** them kids”
I get it. I also align my business advertising with what you stated. It is what it is.I generally agree with you. I never advertise as a lawyer and have always felt that word of mouth is the best marketing possible (and it has proven to be true). BUT, Heitner is effectively marketing himself through social media as you know. I don’t care for it, but I can understand why he’s doing it. He’s basically telling the next person who needs an attorney to come to him.
It’s basically a billboard. Just as annoying and ubiquitous as lawyers on billboards telling you that they have won ___ millions for their client. To me they are all eyesores.
Shhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeet, he plugged us in a big way tooJust personal marketing like everyone does with social media in 2026
He just did an ad for himself that’s gonna generate a stupid ROI that cost him nothing and about 10 seconds
But I’ll put on my old man cap and scream at the ocean with you, brother
Seems like he’s really been an advocate for the athlete first and foremost. Shouts out Miami in this statement
I know I'm obviously biased, and @AtlAtty is right that he is advertising, but Heitner is also doing one more crucial thing here. He's stressing that these contracts are incredibly one-sided, these kids are at a huge disadvantage, and they MUST review these agreements with an attorney before they sign them or risk being taken advantage of by the schools. He's laid out the key points for why they should be concerned about the unbalanced power dynamic and has armed them with enough information to push back and start thinking for themselves.I get it. I also align my business advertising with what you stated. It is what it is.
I’ve had plenty of opportunities to chat with lawyers through the years - sometimes on my dime, sometimes not. I’ve been to plenty of Alumni Association gatherings that always seem to be overloaded with lawyer representation (and financial planners - IYKYK). I find it almost fascinating to see them in action, specifically as they enter their echo chambers and speak in their jargon. The same can be said of doctors, engineers, construction dudes, etc. I mention all that as a backdrop for this - I think many folks lose sight of how they are received and perceived by those outside of their ecosystems. My original Homer Simpson comment was a (kinda?) funny way to bring this to light.I know I'm obviously biased, and @AtlAtty is right that he is advertising, but Heitner is also doing one more crucial thing here. He's stressing that these contracts are incredibly one-sided, these kids are at a huge disadvantage, and they MUST review these agreements with an attorney before they sign them or risk being taken advantage of by the schools. He's laid out the key points for why they should be concerned about the unbalanced power dynamic and has armed them with enough information to push back and start thinking for themselves.I get it. I also align my business advertising with what you stated. It is what it is.
Maybe they call him, or maybe they find their own attorney. Doesn't really matter, since as the market continues to grow, he isn't going to be able to handle every athlete anyway unless he decides to expand his firm. So what's most important is he continues to put himself out there as a thought leader who leads the NIL industry, while doing his best to help these kids and their families.