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DAILY DEBATE: What are your expectations for TVD at Wisconsin?

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Felonious Monk said:
I continue to struggle with understanding the disdain y'all have for a sub .500 quarterback. Seems like wasted energy, but yet here I am.
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No disdain. I’m the one that started a whole *** thread saying we should, as fans, stop attacking his mental health. That to me, not cool at all

But he’s gone now. Let him go. All of us.

However his name will always generate conversation…so here we are
 
So my son went to Manning Passing Academy this summer and TVD was there. I went up to him to just say hi and wish him luck and to thank him for taking a pic with my son a couple years ago after practice.

One thing stood out to me - extremely bitter against Miami. Just the vibe like almost blowing me off trying to be nice and wishing him well at Wisconsin. He made a snark comment about Miami and the fans and all I wanted to do was say thank you to a Hurricane because good bad or whatever these guys put on the U and I have respect for them.

My guess this season is just average. Leopards usually don’t change their sports. Wish him well.
 
DMoney said:
A lot of Canes fans, based on what I’m seeing in the group chats and social media.

I’m pretty curious just as a CFB fan. I wish him well and am happy with who we have.
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You know what….I don't care, but i wish Dan Enos would have never set foot on campus, facilitating his recruitment. and wish Blakey James would have been just one second too late on that fateful call to #TNM and let Temple keep their coach, but here we are.
 
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Felonious Monk said:
I continue to struggle with understanding the disdain y'all have for a sub .500 quarterback. Seems like wasted energy, but yet here I am.
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It’s the normal let down reaction to previous hype. Extremes always beget extremes. Hype will always illicit Hate if the hype was not fulfilled or justified. Dudes feel embarrassed by TVDs failure because they made his success personal and beyond the team. Not every player, especially not the leader, can negotiate and flirt with another team in the offseason and use those negotiations to demand a NIL raise with our team and it not be held against him by the majority of our fanbase. That’s the definition of Slurping. Slurping is not a 12-0 post or being hyper optimistic about our team’s outlook. That’s called being a fan. Slurping is putting a person/personality over the best interests of the entire group/team/program and changing reality for him.

The last example was Tate Martell on a lesser degree but the more accurate one would be Al Golden, his weekend disappearance to flirt with Pedo State and his using “the cloud” to force a contract extension and raise after one season. All swept under the rug because some of us sainted him and put his best interests over the team and attached themselves (their fan hood) to him personally.

That is why till this day, people still check in on Golden and some will even slyly and quickly defend or excuse his tenure here and then get out of dodge 💨 fast. Testing whether we will collectively change history or reality as they have.
 
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HarrietTubmanCane said:
It’s the normal let down reaction to previous hype. Extremes always beget extremes. Hype will always illicit Hate if the hype was not fulfilled or justified. Dudes feel embarrassed by TVDs failure because they made his success personal and beyond the team. Not every player, especially not the leader, can negotiate and flirt with another team in the offseason and use those negotiations to demand a NIL raise with our team and it not be held against him by the majority of our fanbase. That’s the definition of Slurping. Slurping is not a 12-0 post or being hyper optimistic about our team’s outlook. That’s called being a fan. Slurping is putting a person/personality over the best interests of the entire group/team/program and changing reality for him.

The last example was Tate Martell on a lesser degree but the more accurate one would be Al Golden, his weekend disappearance to flirt with Pedo State and his using “the cloud” to force a contract extension and raise after one season. All swept under the rug because some of us sainted him and put his best interests over the team and attached themselves (their fan hood) to him personally.

That is why till this day, people still check in on Golden and some will even slyly and quickly defend or excuse his tenure here and then get out of dodge 💨 fast. Testing whether we will collectively change history or reality as they have.
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I spent two years hoping we'd see 2021 TVD. If that guy played every Saturday, he'd have been top tier.
 
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