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***-e-skr said:
All the butt hurt fans on the board will spew their venom at anything, and anybody, just to make themselves feel better about their decision to blindly support such a disaster of a coach here. They spewed their venom at us for not believing in Richt from the beginning, now they are all dazed and confused on how a guy who was canned at UGA for not being good enough, is nose diving at blindly speed here at Miami.

So now they turn their attention toward Mario with their attempts to gouge his eyes out for a situation they know nothing about, to include what Mario said to this kid about HIS decision to stay.
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305to954 said:
If Mario turns Oregon back around, what makes y’all think he’d bolt to Miami in the midst of that success...do u guys believe Miami’s HC gig is far away a destination job over Oregon??
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guess it depends on what he values
Oregon is barely a skid mark on the history of college football.
Miami is one of the elites.
 
dycane said:
No. In only one of the two scenarios (leave v stay) is the guy not set for life. It’s that simple. And putting aside injury, what if he goes out next year and struggles at Oregon? Way to many variables to forego bird in hand because you think you need to work on your game more.
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His goal is to be a great NFL quarterback. He should make decisions to further that career goal, even if that means foregoing short-term gratification. Nobody wants to be a bust.

Quarterback has a high bust rate, and it goes up substantially when you leave early (Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Jameis Winston). Even this year, the guy with five years of college (Baker Mayfield) is easily outperforming the rookie QBs who left early. Experience matters.

The risk of injury is overblown. Bradford hurt his throwing shoulder and went #1 overall. It's not a risk that should guide your decision-making at that position.

If he thinks he needs more time, it is a smart career decision to stay another year. And that's not even factoring in the intangible factors.
 
TimeB0mb said:
IMO the next Lincoln Riley is Josh Heupel. Both Riley and Heupel learned Air Raid fundamentals from Leach but have customized it to fit their teams. Cristobal could probably be a highly successful CEO type coach, but I wouldn't exactly call him innovative. Heupel understands the qb position and can figure out ways to get the ball to the playmakers. That's what we need.
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Heupel is a smart guy. His offense failed at his alma mater, and they fired him.

So what does he do? Dig his heels in and say his offense worked once so it’ll work again? Nope. Pretty sure I read that he studied the Briles version of the spread and reinvented himself. He’s been killing it since then.
 
The Franchise said:
Heupel is a smart guy. His offense failed at his alma mater, and they fired him.

So what does he do? Dig his heels in and say his offense worked once so it’ll work again? Nope. Pretty sure I read that he studied the Briles version of the spread and reinvented himself. He’s been killing it since then.
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In the words of Ned Flanders, "Indeedely-do."

https://sports.yahoo.com/thank-god-...fired-coaching-national-champs-014129362.html

"Heupel’s successful season in Logan led to a two-year stint at Missouri, where he engineered one of the most impressive offensive overhauls in recent college football history. Missouri finished No. 124 in total offense in 2015 (280.9), the year before Heupel’s arrival. They jumped to No. 13 in 2016 (500.5) and No. 7 (511.5) last year, as Heupel ran a hybrid of the offense Art Briles made famous at Baylor....

Heupel’s offense could be considered a cousin of the Oregon hybrid that Frost ran last year. But there will be differences from the Baylor lineage that wasn’t on display in full at Oklahoma – wider splits, more tempo and likely more downfield shots – that hint at UCF potentially improving on the nation’s best scoring offense (48.2 ppg)."
 
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Mike Thot said:
guess it depends on what he values
Oregon is barely a skid mark on the history of college football.
Miami is one of the elites.
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It has nothing to do about our past..the Yankees get marque players because of the money they are willing to spend to win. Not because of 27 titles. In CFB it’s the same thing for coaches. If Miami was ever to started opening the checkbook like big bois then u could pull a successful coach from a program like Oregon. So no. That has never been the formula here. And the further and further away from winning we go the harder it will be to recreate that formula of the past
 
TemplarCane said:
From a potential injury perspective, definitely a risk. One insured for millions I assume. From a playing perspective he still needs improvement playing in the pocket consistently and he needs to improve his deep ball accuracy. Improve those two areas and he could be the overall top 1-3 pick.

A number of teams in today’s projected top 10 have QBs:

Arizona - drafted Rosen last season
San Fran - Jimmy G
Jets - drafted Darnold last season
Oakland - Carr, but who knows with Gruden
Detroit - Stafford
Giants - Eli Manning may or may not return
Buffalo - drafted Josh Allen last season
Tampa Bay - Winston may or may not return. Team may have new GM and HC.
Jacksonville - Bortles may or may not return
Carolina - Cam Newton

If you assume the draft order above, Herbert is not Top 5 unless Oakland picks him fourth or someone trades up. Is Herbert worth the cost of trading up? Would surrender your 2019 1st and 2nd round picks, plus your 2020 1st rounder, maybe more? Is Herbert consistently that good?

He is not as highly rated at Luck or some of the others in the recent past. He’s the best in a comparatively weak class at a position where prospects are overvalued out of necessity.
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Excellent post with good/fair points. I just think when you're pretty much the consensus #1 QB that you come out in today's NFL. Teams will now let you learn on the job and you don't hear about these kids getting "mentally destroyed" as much any longer. As far as where he'd be taken, I think you can always trust a team to (often stupidly) move up to grab a QB- especially some of the teams you listed (Gruden especially).

Now if the kid knows in his heart of hearts that he's not remotely ready then more power to him in making the decision to wait. I just don't know if he gets that development at Oregon aside from just more live game experience.

I also don't even equate it to Matt Leinart as Oregon could very easily be an 8-5 team here shortly. USC was winning no less than 11 games per year when Leinart returned. And let's be honest, being Matt Leinart in LA during those years is a wayyyyyy more seductive "college experience" to stay in than being "the man" in Eugene freakin' Oregon.

But again, you make the best case I've seen so far for him staying.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Excellent post with good/fair points. I just think when you're pretty much the consensus #1 QB that you come out in today's NFL. Teams will now let you learn on the job and you don't hear about these kids getting "mentally destroyed" as much any longer. As far as where he'd be taken, I think you can always trust a team to (often stupidly) move up to grab a QB- especially some of the teams you listed (Gruden especially).

Now if the kid knows in his heart of hearts that he's not remotely ready then more power to him in making the decision to wait. I just don't know if he gets that development at Oregon aside from just more live game experience.

I also don't even equate it to Matt Leinart as Oregon could very easily be an 8-5 team here shortly. USC was winning no less than 11 games per year when Leinart returned. And let's be honest, being Matt Leinart in LA during those years is a wayyyyyy more seductive "college experience" to stay in than being "the man" in Eugene freakin' Oregon.

But again, you make the best case I've seen so far for him staying.
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Thanks. And yes, Leinhart was a celebrity in LA, coming off a Heisman win and playing for a repeat NC. Which he lost to Vince Young and Texas. With no NFL (then) the only bigger names would have been Kobe and some of the other Lakers, and maybe a Dodger or two.

You’re right, rookie QBs can have early success on the right team. One could make the argument Herbert would be better off coming out now, if a solid team missing a top QB traded up to draft him.
 
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