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Could Miami play Notre Dame in the ACC Title Game if...

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canecrazy23 said:
We either need Clumpson to lose 1 and we win out. We would face ND.

Or we need ND to lose twice and we win out. We would face Clem
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Correct. And further, the ACC is going to do everything in their power to ensure ND and Clemson play again. Not aside from the obvious reasons (ratings), but because if somehow Miami has a glimmer of hope, then they'd have a huge cluster**** on their hands on 12/19.

That is the day of the ACC Championship. And it's also the day Miami is scheduled to play Georgia Tech. The game vs Georgia Tech was scheduled with a caveat. That caveat is "This game will be played if Miami is not in the ACC Football Championship Game and if the result of the GT @ Miami game would not directly impact the determination of which two teams do play in the league championship game"

So, for ***** and giggles, let's assume Clemson loses another game. So they have 2 conference losses, Miami beats Wake and UNC, so we have 1, and ND has zero. Well, now we got ourselves a situation. Because what happens on 12/19? You can't just put Miami in the ACCCG instead of playing GT. The caveat clearly says the game will be played if the result would not directly impact who plays in the ACCCG. Well, what if Miami loses that game? Then Clemson is back in business. So you have to play the Miami vs GT game, but it's the same day as the ACCCG. Quite the pickle.

So....it all works nice and easy if ND and Clemson just keep winning. So that is EXACTLY what the ACC will make happen.
 
If ND drops a game to UNC and we beat UNC then it is a tiebreaker that I don’t care to read about.

If Clemson drops another game, then both Miami and Clemson would have equal games played by Dec 12 assuming Fsu wouldn’t get rescheduled until Dec 19. If Clemson could play FSU by Dec 12, Miami would have played less games thus giving Clemson the birth as I read it.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
I think Notre Dame only needs to lose once.
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No. Twice. If ND loses once, then Miami/ND/Clemson are in a 3-way tie.

Tiebreaker #1 is head to head win percentage among tied teams. ND is 1.00 (1-0 vs Clemson), Clemson is .500 (0-1 vs ND, 1-0 vs Miami), and Miami is .000 (0-1 vs Clemson).

Clemson and ND play in Charlotte.

There are literally only 2 scenarios here that would work.

1. Clemson loses to Pitt, VT, or a possible make up game vs FSU. Not gonna happen, but whatever.
2. ND loses TWICE, and they play at UNC, vs Cuse, and @ Wake.

And of course Miami wins out.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Correct. And further, the ACC is going to do everything in their power to ensure ND and Clemson play again. Not aside from the obvious reasons (ratings), but because if somehow Miami has a glimmer of hope, then they'd have a huge cluster**** on their hands on 12/19.

That is the day of the ACC Championship. And it's also the day Miami is scheduled to play Georgia Tech. The game vs Georgia Tech was scheduled with a caveat. That caveat is "This game will be played if Miami is not in the ACC Football Championship Game and if the result of the GT @ Miami game would not directly impact the determination of which two teams do play in the league championship game"

So, for ***** and giggles, let's assume Clemson loses another game. So they have 2 conference losses, Miami beats Wake and UNC, so we have 1, and ND has zero. Well, now we got ourselves a situation. Because what happens on 12/19? You can't just put Miami in the ACCCG instead of playing GT. The caveat clearly says the game will be played if the result would not directly impact who plays in the ACCCG. Well, what if Miami loses that game? Then Clemson is back in business. So you have to play the Miami vs GT game, but it's the same day as the ACCCG. Quite the pickle.

So....it all works nice and easy if ND and Clemson just keep winning. So that is EXACTLY what the ACC will make happen.
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I was thinking they'd make sure we lose to UNC, but that's just me.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Correct. And further, the ACC is going to do everything in their power to ensure ND and Clemson play again. Not aside from the obvious reasons (ratings), but because if somehow Miami has a glimmer of hope, then they'd have a huge cluster**** on their hands on 12/19.

That is the day of the ACC Championship. And it's also the day Miami is scheduled to play Georgia Tech. The game vs Georgia Tech was scheduled with a caveat. That caveat is "This game will be played if Miami is not in the ACC Football Championship Game and if the result of the GT @ Miami game would not directly impact the determination of which two teams do play in the league championship game"

So, for ***** and giggles, let's assume Clemson loses another game. So they have 2 conference losses, Miami beats Wake and UNC, so we have 1, and ND has zero. Well, now we got ourselves a situation. Because what happens on 12/19? You can't just put Miami in the ACCCG instead of playing GT. The caveat clearly says the game will be played if the result would not directly impact who plays in the ACCCG. Well, what if Miami loses that game? Then Clemson is back in business. So you have to play the Miami vs GT game, but it's the same day as the ACCCG. Quite the pickle.

So....it all works nice and easy if ND and Clemson just keep winning. So that is EXACTLY what the ACC will make happen.
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I would imagine they will push back the ACC Championship if Miami's game against GT would affect who plays in it.
 
I guessed from the start this was rigged for Clemson-ND. ND gets Clemson at home. Miami gets Clemson on the road. It even looks like the ACC left money on the table to make sure it was ND-Clemson. The ACC easily could have scheduled Miami v ND when coming up with the schedule, which I guarantee would have been the most viewed "ACC" matchup this season. But then if Miami won, it would spoil the matchup plan.

The ACC invented new tiebreaker rules for this modified season, it could have also tried to protect the actual paying members of the ACC by saying that ND could only take one of the ACC championship game slots if the other ACC teams in contention had least two losses. ND would have had no choice but to accept this, because otherwise they would have had almost no shot of the playoffs. Instead, every other dues paying member of the ACC is almost certainly going to be left out of the conference championship. This isn't just a disservice to Miami, if UNC manages to finish with one loss, they should also get the chance to play in the ACC championship game rather than the team that isn't actually a member of the conference for football. This is the football equivalent of the Montreal Screwjob. The ACC brass is giving its own members sweet chin music and running to the locker room with the championship belt.
 
TimeB0mb said:
I guessed from the start this was rigged for Clemson-ND. ND gets Clemson at home. Miami gets Clemson on the road. It even looks like the ACC left money on the table to make sure it was ND-Clemson. The ACC easily could have scheduled Miami v ND when coming up with the schedule, which I guarantee would have been the most viewed "ACC" matchup this season. But then if Miami won, it would spoil the matchup plan.

The ACC invented new tiebreaker rules for this modified season, it could have also tried to protect the actual paying members of the ACC by saying that ND could only take one of the ACC championship game slots if the other ACC teams in contention had least two losses. ND would have had no choice but to accept this, because otherwise they would have had almost no shot of the playoffs. Instead, every other dues paying member of the ACC is almost certainly going to be left out of the conference championship. This isn't just a disservice to Miami, if UNC manages to finish with one loss, they should also get the chance to play in the ACC championship game rather than the team that isn't actually a member of the conference for football. This is the football equivalent of the Montreal Screwjob. The ACC brass is giving its own members sweet chin music and running to the locker room with the championship belt.
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All this is true especially considering ND is not going to be in the ACC next year or ever (unless another pandemic comes around).
 
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CaneinBroward said:
I would imagine they will push back the ACC Championship if Miami's game against GT would affect who plays in it.
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To when? The next Saturday would be 12/26.

The CFP semifinals are 1/1, which is the following Friday. So the ACC champ gets 6 days to get ready for a playoff game? That won't happen. And it's been discussed ad nauseum that the NCAA is not willing to manipulate the dates of the CFP games. They're holding that they must happen on 1/1, and even more, they're so hard on those dates that I've been told that if one team cannot play due to Covid on that day, the other gets a "bye" essentially into the national championship game.

So the ACCCG isn't being pushed back. There's nowhere to push it.

Again, ya think the ACC just wants this to all be moot and put Clemson vs ND in there? Uhhhh, yes. Abso****inglutely yes. If not, they've got a logistical nightmare on their hands. They want NO PART of Miami being involved in this.
 
Gotta Root for another Pitt miracle against Clemson.

Or their physical front 7 breaking Sunshine in half and maybe the Hokies pulling off the upset.


Or Book gets injured/ gets Corona for the Irish and they lose to both UNC and Wake somehow.

And of course hope Miami takes care of business.
 
If they drop 2 games expect the acc refs to call personal fouls on us for high fives for excessive celebration.
The whole thing was fixed from the jump to have Clemson and then in the final.
 
pacusmc said:
If they drop 2 games expect the acc refs to call personal fouls on us for high fives for excessive celebration.
The whole thing was fixed from the jump to have Clemson and then in the final.
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Or that shxt the VT kicker did, oh man the Flag we will see if our kicker did that.
 
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