Could Miami play Notre Dame in the ACC Title Game if...

[canecrazy23]

I think Notre Dame only needs to lose once.

No I think if they lose and have 1 acc loss and we have 1 acc loss it would go to common opponent and they beat clumpson and we lost to them. I'm just guessing I have no facts.

 

[pacusmc]

Or that shxt the VT kicker did, oh man the Flag we will see if our kicker did that.

Some of these young bucks on here need to do a YouTube mashup of all the sht they call on us but never call on other teams.
There can easily be a 5 minute video just on the holding that they never cal on our dline.

 

[RightSaidFred]

No I think if they lose and have 1 acc loss and we have 1 acc loss it would go to common opponent and they beat clumpson and we lost to them. I'm just guessing I have no facts.

you’re probably right. Well....****.

 

[JD08]

Gotta Root for another Pitt miracle against Clemson.

Or their physical front 7 breaking Sunshine in half and maybe the Hokies pulling off the upset.


Or Book gets injured/ gets Corona for the Irish and they lose to both UNC and Wake somehow.

And of course hope Miami takes care of business.

If Pickett's playing then Katy bar the door.

 

[NJshoreCane]

you’re probably right. Well....****.

3 team tie breaker.
1. Combined head-to-head win percentage among the tied teams.
ND 1-0, Miami 0-1, Clemson 1-1
ND advances
If the three-team (or more) tie can be reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format will then be applied
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
Clemson advances.

 

[CaneinBroward]

To when? The next Saturday would be 12/26.

The CFP semifinals are 1/1, which is the following Friday. So the ACC champ gets 6 days to get ready for a playoff game? That won't happen. And it's been discussed ad nauseum that the NCAA is not willing to manipulate the dates of the CFP games. They're holding that they must happen on 1/1, and even more, they're so hard on those dates that I've been told that if one team cannot play due to Covid on that day, the other gets a "bye" essentially into the national championship game.

So the ACCCG isn't being pushed back. There's nowhere to push it.

Again, ya think the ACC just wants this to all be moot and put Clemson vs ND in there? Uhhhh, yes. Abso****inglutely yes. If not, they've got a logistical nightmare on their hands. They want NO PART of Miami being involved in this.

You definitely have a point there. However, why would the ACC Championship have to be played on a Saturday? Perhaps play the ACC Championship on 12/23? You're are looking at it from the standpoint of "***** Miami", however, what if Clemson loses a game or ND loses 2 games, do you think either of those schools would be cool with Miami playing in the ACC Championship instead of them having played one less ACC game than they have?

The ACC should be more open about what it will do if Miami vs. GT does indeed have an effect on who plays in the ACC Championship.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

You definitely have a point there. However, why would the ACC Championship have to be played on a Saturday? Perhaps play the ACC Championship on 12/23? You're are looking at it from the standpoint of "***** Miami", however, what if Clemson loses a game or ND loses 2 games, do you think either of those schools would be cool with Miami playing in the ACC Championship instead of them having played one less ACC game than they have?

The ACC should be more open about what it will do if Miami vs. GT does indeed have an effect on who plays in the ACC Championship.

I’m not looking at it from the standpoint of “***** Miami” at all. I’m looking at it from the standpoint of easiness and no stress. If things go how they “should”, it’s all laid out and set. Clemson vs ND rematch. Huge ratings. No schedule shuffling. No controversy. Nice and easy. If ND loses twice or Clemson loses again, now it’s scramble time for the conference.

Let’s just put it this way. The league office is PRAYING Clemson doesn’t lose again. That’s all there is to it.

 

[Cribby]

I normally hate posters with K9 in their handle , this thread continues the tradition.

 

[ithacane]

3 team tie breaker.
1. Combined head-to-head win percentage among the tied teams.
ND 1-0, Miami 0-1, Clemson 0-1
ND advances
If the three-team (or more) tie can be reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format will then be applied
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
Clemson advances.

Actually isn’t combined head-to-head...

ND 1-0, Miami 0-1, Clemson 1-1

your point still stands though, it’s clempson and the douches for the ACC championship

 

[K9Buckeye]

I normally hate posters with K9 in their handle , this thread continues the tradition.

Apply some of this:

 

[S.CarolinaCane]

We either need Clumpson to lose 1 and we win out. We would face ND.

Or we need ND to lose twice and we win out. We would face Clem

No just need ND to lose to UNC and us win out. Thats the best scenario

 

[BisCane]

No just need ND to lose to UNC and us win out. Thats the best scenario

A 1-loss ND gets in over a 1-loss Miami. We need one of the two to lose 2 games, assuming we win out.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

No just need ND to lose to UNC and us win out. Thats the best scenario

Still does us no good. ND has to lose twice and/or Clemson lose again

 

[CAT5Coming]

No. Twice. If ND loses once, then Miami/ND/Clemson are in a 3-way tie.

Tiebreaker #1 is head to head win percentage among tied teams. ND is 1.00 (1-0 vs Clemson), Clemson is .500 (0-1 vs ND, 1-0 vs Miami), and Miami is .000 (0-1 vs Clemson).

Clemson and ND play in Charlotte.

There are literally only 2 scenarios here that would work.

1. Clemson loses to Pitt, VT, or a possible make up game vs FSU. Not gonna happen, but whatever.
2. ND loses TWICE, and they play at UNC, vs Cuse, and @ Wake.

And of course Miami wins out.

But if Clemson had another game cancelled then they wouldn’t be within 1 game of total games played avg for ACC and couldn’t qualify, right?

So third scenario one of those teams doesn’t play enough ACC games to qualify.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

I wish ACC would pursue pressuring Notre Dame to officially join this conference with the same fervor they have for wanting to keep the ACCCG matchup between Notre Dame and Clemson.

I agree that ND should be pressed to be a football conference member. They're a member in every sport except football. That should have NEVER been allowed. ND got all the benefit of being in the premier conference for both men's and women's basketball, and a premium conference for men's and women's track, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, tennis, and golf. They would have been stuck in the Big East or AAC for all their sports. At best, I would have given ND a time table of independence for their football program. Perhaps 4-5 years of independence, then an automatic member for football.

On the flip side, I disagree with all these ACC Clemson-ND conspiracy theories. Just as ND beat Clemson, they could have lost. No one predicted ND beating Clemson. If ND had lost to Clemson, then we'd be in a tie with them.

The hard cold truth is that ND is the 2nd best team in the conference although they sit at the top. They have won their games with more control than we have. Yes, they had their Louisville moment, but we had Pitt, UVA, NC State, and VT. All games that were not won decisively. ND has the crown because they have slayed the king and taken it from him. Clemson will try to take it back.There is NO conspiracy in that.

Although I'd love to see Miami in the title game, we are not playing at a level worthy of the title. We have too many holes to compete for a conference title this year. We're all hoping our team could some how get to the title game and pull off a miracle. We need to focus on winning the rest of our games and then win our bowl game if it's even played.

Championship metal is not just getting to the championship game It's built on a weekly basis by controlling and dominating your opponent. When we turn our weaknesses into strengths and start dominating our Coastal brethren, then we'll be worthy of the title.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

But if Clemson had another game cancelled then they wouldn’t be within 1 game of total games played avg for ACC and couldn’t qualify, right?

So third scenario one of those teams doesn’t play enough ACC games to qualify.

Yes, if Clemson has another game cancelled, then things could get hairy. I didn't get into all these scenarios because there's simply way too many moving parts to all that, but sure if Covid just goes ape**** and there's a bunch more postponements/cancellations, things could get weird.

Clemson has an open date as of now on 12/12. So does FSU. We all know the league is going to do every single possible thing they can to get Clemson into the playoffs, so I seriously doubt they'd allow them to miss the ACCCG because of a league technicality based off postponed games. They'll make them go back to Tallahassee and play FSU on 12/12 if they have to.

 

[S.CarolinaCane]

A 1-loss ND gets in over a 1-loss Miami. We need one of the two to lose 2 games, assuming we win out.

Yea I didn't put together the whole three way tie thing until one of you broke it down.

Are you sure that it's broken down like a round robin in that case?

 

[canecrazy23]

No just need ND to lose to UNC and us win out. Thats the best scenario

That would leave ND with 1 loss and UM with 1 loss.

They beat common opponent in Clumpson and we lost to said common opponent. They get in over us in this scenario.

 

[Deleted member 25284]

We weren’t ever going to ACCCG unless we forced ourselves there. The powers that be pretty much wrote it out that way

 

[islesofkings]

Nah Brethren. Title game already clinched. The pundits always wanted the ND vs Clemson matchup. I just don’t expect it.