Could Miami play Notre Dame in the ACC Title Game if...

[Handsome Squidbum]

I wish ACC would pursue pressuring Notre Dame to officially join this conference with the same fervor they have for wanting to keep the ACCCG matchup between Notre Dame and Clemson.

This is a pure money grab by the ACC brass lining their pockets. This year's deal was that Notre Dame had to share its TV revenue for the year with the ACC. That will probably mean an extra 15 million this year to the conference, and I have no doubt that probably 3 million or so will go Swofford and his cronies as bonuses for making such a savvy deal (and probably a little something will get kicked to Emmert as well).

 

[BoxingRobes]

Notre Dame is lucky because we would fvck them up.

 

[Just-W2]

The cut-off for the ACC Championship game is 12/12. If everyone win out, Clemson & Mia would both be 9-1 with Clemson winning the head to head.

Mia vs GT is for TV revenue. It won't count towards the ACC Championship game

 

[canes732]

I truly believe Pitt will give Clemson a game this week. Pickett can ruin thier season. If I had to put a percentage on it. 25%. Pitt just matches up well with them. If Pitts run is as good as advertised clemson will be in trouble

 

[86Gang]

Correct. And further, the ACC is going to do everything in their power to ensure ND and Clemson play again. Not aside from the obvious reasons (ratings), but because if somehow Miami has a glimmer of hope, then they'd have a huge cluster**** on their hands on 12/19.

That is the day of the ACC Championship. And it's also the day Miami is scheduled to play Georgia Tech. The game vs Georgia Tech was scheduled with a caveat. That caveat is "This game will be played if Miami is not in the ACC Football Championship Game and if the result of the GT @ Miami game would not directly impact the determination of which two teams do play in the league championship game"

So, for ***** and giggles, let's assume Clemson loses another game. So they have 2 conference losses, Miami beats Wake and UNC, so we have 1, and ND has zero. Well, now we got ourselves a situation. Because what happens on 12/19? You can't just put Miami in the ACCCG instead of playing GT. The caveat clearly says the game will be played if the result would not directly impact who plays in the ACCCG. Well, what if Miami loses that game? Then Clemson is back in business. So you have to play the Miami vs GT game, but it's the same day as the ACCCG. Quite the pickle.

So....it all works nice and easy if ND and Clemson just keep winning. So that is EXACTLY what the ACC will make happen.

That’s not true. ND doesn’t need to lose twice. If they lose Saturday to UNC, they’ll drop out the top 10. If we beat UNC and Wake, we’ll play Clemson for the ACC title.

 

[NorthFloridaCane]

The ACC invented new tiebreaker rules for this modified season, it could have also tried to protect the actual paying members of the ACC by saying that ND could only take one of the ACC championship game slots if the other ACC teams in contention had least two losses. ND would have had no choice but to accept this, because otherwise they would have had almost no shot of the playoffs.

Alright this sounds like some ***** ****

 

[86Gang]

No I think if they lose and have 1 acc loss and we have 1 acc loss it would go to common opponent and they beat clumpson and we lost to them. I'm just guessing I have no facts.

If they lose to UNC and we win out, we’ll be ranked higher and we’ll go.

 

[86Gang]

Still does us no good. ND has to lose twice and/or Clemson lose again

No they don’t. If they lose to an unranked UNC, we’ll be the 2nd ranked team in the conference. ND won’t even be in the top 10 if they lose to UNC, we don’t need them to lose twice.

 

[86Gang]

Notre Dame is lucky because we would fvck them up.

They gotta beat UNC Saturday.

 

[Empirical Cane]

ASSUMING Miami, UNC, ND, and Clemson are able to play all their games (gets really sticky if ACC must average conference play totals) AND the ACCCG is moved to accomodate...

- Miami must win out (I guess theoretically not but c'mon)
- Clemson must lose at least once again; or
- ND needs to drop at least two losses

 

[86Gang]

ASSUMING Miami, UNC, ND, and Clemson are able to play all their games AND the ACCCG is moved to accomodate...

- Miami must win out (I guess theoretically not but c'mon)
- Clemson must lose at least once again; or
- ND needs to drop at least two losses

False. ND lose Saturday we win out, we’re in the game.

 

[Empirical Cane]

No they don’t. If they lose to an unranked UNC, we’ll be the 2nd ranked team in the conference. ND won’t even be in the top 10 if they lose to UNC, we don’t need them to lose twice.

Check us on this, but I believe ND losing one, regardless of their ranking would get the spot over Miami based on two team tie rule and record vs "common opponent(s)"

Is that right? Wrong?

 

[Empirical Cane]

False. ND lose Saturday we win out, we’re in the game.

Look one reply up

 

[86Gang]

Check us on this, but I believe ND losing one, regardless of their ranking wod get the spot over Miami based on two team tie rule and record vs "common opponent(s)"

Is that right? Wrong?

It would be a 3 team tie. The two highest ranked teams go. Then the other stuff goes into play.

 

[Empirical Cane]

False. ND lose Saturday we win out, we’re in the game.

Am I misinterpreting this

"...

Two-Team Tie
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
2. Head-to-head competition versus the team with the best overall win percentage and proceeding though the conference. Multiple ties within the conference will be broken from first to last using the league’s tiebreaker policies.
3. Overall win percentage versus all common conference opponents.

... "

 

[ithacane]

Am I misinterpreting this

"...

Two-Team Tie
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
2. Head-to-head competition versus the team with the best overall win percentage and proceeding though the conference. Multiple ties within the conference will be broken from first to last using the league’s tiebreaker policies.
3. Overall win percentage versus all common conference opponents.

... "

U are correct and this has already come up too many times. 3-way tiebreaker means we are out.

 

[Empirical Cane]

It would be a 3 team tie. The two highest ranked teams go. Then the other stuff goes into play.

"...

Three-Team (or More) Tie
Three-team (or more) tiebreaker procedure will be used to break all ties to identify the Championship game representative. Once a team is eliminated from the tie, the tiebreaker procedures restart for the remaining teams. If the three-team (or more) tie can be reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format will then be applied).

1. Combined head-to-head win percentage among the tied teams.
2. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the conference with the best overall conference win percentage and proceeding through the conference. Multiple ties within the conference will be broken first to last, using the league’s tiebreaker policies.
3. Combined win percentage versus all common conference opponents.

... "

Am I missing something??

 

[86Gang]

Am I misinterpreting this

"...

Two-Team Tie
1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
2. Head-to-head competition versus the team with the best overall win percentage and proceeding though the conference. Multiple ties within the conference will be broken from first to last using the league’s tiebreaker policies.
3. Overall win percentage versus all common conference opponents.

... "

Exactly that means if we finish ranked higher our win percentage is higher. If ND loses to an unranked UNC, we’ll finish higher win percentage if we win out. 4. And 5. Also states that.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Exactly that means if we finish ranked higher our win percentage is higher. If ND loses to an unranked UNC, we’ll finish higher win percentage if we win out. 4. And 5. Also states that.

I see where you are going friend, but higher ranked doesn't exactly equate to better win percentage.

However, I will agree with you Miami wins out, Clemson wins out, ND only loses to UNC, it will get sticky at least in court of public opinion.

 

[TrumpyCane]

TrumpyCane is calling a Pitt upset