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Let's scenario Yormark + Big 12 puts together offer for Miami close enough to SEC/B1G money annually.
Do we care if Miami goes Big 12 then?
Won’t happenOne remote possibility thats been mentioned but would be intriguing is if the ACC votes to disband and then reforms with fewer teams. Payouts per team go way up. It would be the “academic elite” conference with a mix of private schools and elite public schools (with the exception of FSU and Clemson).
Yormark grabs a few of the teams that didn’t make the cut, and seem like a better fit for the Big 12 anyways like Pitt, NC St, and Louisville. Maybe we horse trade a big 12 school like Baylor.
Let’s say the ACC is
Private division
Miami
Duke
Stanford (partial shares)
SMU (no shares)
Notre Dame (by affiliation)
Baylor
Public Division
FSU
Clemson
UNC
Cal
UVA
Georgia Tech
That’s 12 teams. Payout would be around 65-70 million per team (assuming the share splits remain the same as under current deal). Add in performance based incentives and you are easily pushing 80-85 million to the top teams, which puts the total payouts through 2030 to be as good as the P2. Top to bottom that’s a very strong conference, and if they adopt the optional player revenue sharing model (20% of revenue to players), you would have one of the most balanced conferences, with top recruits across the country wanting in to get the revenue sharing.
Big 12 would be
All the current teams minus Baylor, plus
VT
Louisville
NC St
Pitt
Those are good markets for the big 12 and each one gives new carriage fees to the networks since the conference isn’t in those states.
Nobody pays exit fees or gets sued by the networks, and the schools make as much money as the P2.
I don't see a recent conference champ (Pitt) getting the boot. I also doubt NC St will be broken from UNC.One remote possibility thats been mentioned but would be intriguing is if the ACC votes to disband and then reforms with fewer teams. Payouts per team go way up. It would be the “academic elite” conference with a mix of private schools and elite public schools (with the exception of FSU and Clemson).
Yormark grabs a few of the teams that didn’t make the cut, and seem like a better fit for the Big 12 anyways like Pitt, NC St, and Louisville. Maybe we horse trade a big 12 school like Baylor.
Let’s say the ACC is
Private division
Miami
Duke
Stanford (partial shares)
SMU (no shares)
Notre Dame (by affiliation)
Baylor
Public Division
FSU
Clemson
UNC
Cal
UVA
Georgia Tech
That’s 12 teams. Payout would be around 65-70 million per team (assuming the share splits remain the same as under current deal). Add in performance based incentives and you are easily pushing 80-85 million to the top teams, which puts the total payouts through 2030 to be as good as the P2. Top to bottom that’s a very strong conference, and if they adopt the optional player revenue sharing model (20% of revenue to players), you would have one of the most balanced conferences, with top recruits across the country wanting in to get the revenue sharing.
Big 12 would be
All the current teams minus Baylor, plus
VT
Louisville
NC St
Pitt
Those are good markets for the big 12 and each one gives new carriage fees to the networks since the conference isn’t in those states.
Nobody pays exit fees or gets sued by the networks, and the schools make as much money as the P2.
I don't see a recent conference champ (Pitt) getting the boot. I also doubt NC St will be broken from UNC.
But hey, if genetics can make up ****, so can we, right?
Not disputing this but just fyi Miami number also includes buyout payments and tax true ups as part of Mario leaving from Oregon.
If there is no growth, the firm does not take a cut.
“They are not mandated to pay us back the money we give them,” Weatherford said.
These capital firms are built around investing wisely in revenue-generating entities. Why take a risk on the unstable situation in college sports if you aren’t guaranteed a profit?
“I deeply personally believe in college athletics,” Weatherford said. “As an ex-athlete, I owe a lot to it and so does my family. We believe in college athletics. I don’t like the fact that 10 to 15 teams have a chance to win a national title every year. I’d like that to be 40-50. It’s not a level playing field. Not everyone has the resources to compete.”
Reality is that NC tourism generated BY the ACC might be THE reason that the NC State Legislature finds a means to ensure that a). UNC remains IN the ACC and b). The ACC remains in tact in some fashion. It was estimated that the annual economic impact on the Charlotte region was close to $600 Million dollars from ACC related tourism. Even read a speculation today that they might consider just giving the NC schools a boost to make their total revenue close to the SEC, rather than risk losing them. Crazy situation.I thought about the NC St split but I don’t think keeping them in the same conference would matter as much as making sure NC St doesn’t end up in the G5. Also as we see from FSU UF, you can still have an annual game between the two.
As for Pitt, you are probably right, in which case swap Baylor for Pitt in the above scenario. It unbalances the private/public a little bit but maybe you put Clemson in with the private school division even though it’s public because of the low enrollment numbers (24k total students)
You get carriage fees in Florida Texas Pennsylvania Georgia North Carolina South Carolina Indiana and California. That’s a lot of money.
Reality is that NC tourism generated BY the ACC might be THE reason that the NC State Legislature finds a means to ensure that a). UNC remains IN the ACC and b). The ACC remains in tact in some fashion. It was estimated that the annual economic impact on the Charlotte region was close to $600 Million dollars from ACC related tourism. Even read a speculation today that they might consider just giving the NC schools a boost to make their total revenue close to the SEC, rather than risk losing them. Crazy situation.
Not disputing this but just fyi Miami number also includes buyout payments and tax true ups as part of Mario leaving from Oregon.
Which would make sense cause UNC is basically the foundation school of the ACC.Looks like UNC isn't doing anything soon ... Judge in NC just issued a restraining order PROHIBITING THE UNC BOT to have closed meetings to discuss UNC financials, athletic budgets, etc., pending a hearing later in the month. The State politics are going to hamstring any efforts UNC wants to initiate to get out.
Not trolling but good luck finding anyone that is dying on that hill in the last several years. That strawman doesn’t exist outside of Indianapolis and political ad statementsBut, but, the NCAA is a well structured organization that has everything under control.
Satirical comment was the intent.Not trolling but good luck finding anyone that is dying on that hill in the last several years. That strawman doesn’t exist outside of Indianapolis and political ad statements
No strawman no satireSatirical comment was the intent.
But, but, the NCAA is a well structured organization that has everything under control.