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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)
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Listened to part of that this morning. They started with "you basically need to get two 24 team conferences and then split them into four 6 team divisions each. Start adding ND and FSU but then next I would add Clemson (Cubelic speaking) then Staples comments "yeah but then you HAVE TO take Miami, I mean Miami needs to be there ... and Cubelic says "yes of course". Seems that if the P2 REALLY breaks away to form the actual "NFL Lite" they DO go to 24 teams each ... there are just too many of the "top 15 football brands" like UM that can't be left out .... like Cubelic said ... when you put that helmet sticker along side of USC or Michigan ... people are going to watch.
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There is no world where if they both go to 24 Miami isn’t in. That’s not where all the ****** posts are coming from
The timing on this might realistically be spread out. I could see the B10 take FSU & ND for 2025 and maybe the SEC taking UNC/UVA, ESPN not extending the current media deal, Miami not agreeing to a new deal ( adios GOR)). And Miami starting effective 2027 in the B10 along with 3 other ACC teams.
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If this is the final destination, such a circuitous way to get there. SMH
Might as well have 4 conferences of 12 teams each (2 divisions of 6 each, like before). When the PAC 12 imploded, they could have had the 4 remaining major conferences convene and hash it all out over an offseason or 2. Much less realignment and much cleaner. Plus, get the relegation process out of the way now instead of in the next 10 years.
No matter what, lots of lawyers making lots of money over the next 10 years as I'm sure anti-trust, title IX, Congressional investigations, state investigations, and pretty much any other legal recourse will be sought by the schools left out.
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He was drunk posting
This just my .02
Miami is absolutely in a breakaway P2 secession from the NCAA.
But while that option is certainly being discussed, I think deep down the P2 aren’t ready for that yet. They rather set up a kids table for ACC/Big12. That allows P2 to cap at 20 teams, work the media rights for existing members and get guaranteed AQ. And it’s this scenario that if Miami doesnt get in soon, there might not be a path there afterwards.
What Miami is rooting for
1. FSU gets out and surprises everyone by going to SEC
2. P2 breaks away to create their own super league of 48 teams.
3. ND smoke about going to B1G is not real (at least yet).
Things Miami needs to be wary of:
1. FSU and ND go to B1G at same time
2. P2 doesnt break away and stays with ACC/Big12 and G5 all taking less in the future
Miami is absolutely in a breakaway P2 secession from the NCAA.
But while that option is certainly being discussed, I think deep down the P2 aren’t ready for that yet. They rather set up a kids table for ACC/Big12. That allows P2 to cap at 20 teams, work the media rights for existing members and get guaranteed AQ. And it’s this scenario that if Miami doesnt get in soon, there might not be a path there afterwards.
What Miami is rooting for
1. FSU gets out and surprises everyone by going to SEC
2. P2 breaks away to create their own super league of 48 teams.
3. ND smoke about going to B1G is not real (at least yet).
Things Miami needs to be wary of:
1. FSU and ND go to B1G at same time
2. P2 doesnt break away and stays with ACC/Big12 and G5 all taking less in the future
I am assuming it is YOUR OPINION that ND smoke re the B10 is not real, unless you personally have a contact in South Bend.
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2026 is my guess.
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He's saying that's what Miami needs to be hoping for. If ND isn't seriously considering the B1G currently, they would in theory look to add us and FSU in the next round of expansion. I don't believe he is saying that's what he thinks is happening.
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Looks like a lot of current Big 12 schools
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Probably not but it would be the best case scenario for us leaving us as the only FL school for the B1G.
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Every "scenario" I see shows the big ACC brands being added ... and maybe Utah.
Disagree with this 100%. If you have read the GOR it is TIED TO THE ESPN media contract ... that was the purpose of the GOR. ESPN's current media commitment expires on 6/27, so it is actually in effect for only seasons 24,25,26 UNLESS THEY EXTEND the current contract at the current media payout of roughly $40M per school. If ESPN does not exercise the extension option by 2/25 then the media agreement ends ... and new one would have to be negotiated with either ESPN or other media carrier ... and a new GOR signed by parties in favor.
A prime purpose of the FSU LEGAL ACTION is attacking the validity of the 2025 option to extend as they found out in initial discovery at ACC headquarters, the original option expired in 2021 ... and Phillips UNILATERALLY GRANTED ESPN an extension on their option period to 2/25 without consulting with or getting approval from ACC members. Since ESPN wasn't going to extend their agreement in 2021 ... could we have then negotiated a new better deal? Worst case ... they DID NOT EXERCISE THEIR OPTION TO EXTEND ... the extension on the time period granted by Phillips is not valid / legal as it was done without the required 2/3 approval ... and therefore the media deal and GOR both expire on 6/27. Anybody not wanting to sign a NEW contract with different terms would have NO GOR buyback, pay only the $120M ACC exit fee, and commence playing in another conference for the 2027 season. Leave before, and then you need to buy back media rights for season 2025 and 2026.
Bob Thompson, former CEO of FOX Sports and co founder of the B10 network, commented on the day the FSU filings were posted "wow, it took the FSU legal team to find a hole big enough in the GOR to drive a truck through". (he has since apparently deleted that Tweet). That is the current thinking summarized by the majority of the Nole fans who are practicing attorneys ... pay the ACC exit fee ... buy back rights for the period necessary up until the current ESPN media contract expires 6/27. Done, adios.
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So we've gone from FSU/Clemson to the B1G and UNC/UVA to SEC...to now FSU/Clemson to SEC and UNC/UVA to B1G.
Very few people know anything. It's all speculation at this point. Very likely the people who actually know anything are staying quiet.
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Just hope I’m around to see that…
I don't believe anybody outside of the FSU president and AD really know THEIR situation and same with UNC / UVA Clemson. Everybody is looking for clues period and the actual insiders are few and have it buttoned up.
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