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It's been likely to see the SEC and B1G breaking away has been the path for a while now. They don't need the NCAA and they don't need the ACC or BIG12. They want the autonomy to do whatever is best for their leagues/universities. As long as the NCAA and other conferences could help, they would stay and play ball. But now that they're big enough, they'll break away, steal whatever teams they want, and end up with a smaller 48ish team, semi pro league that's somewhere in between the NCAA and NFL.
Who knows what happens to the NCAA after that.
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If the ACC and Big 12 accept the last proposed model it will essentially make it official that they are a step or two below SEC and B1G and that's a hard pillow to swallow given that we were living in the P5 world until yesterday.
Unfortunately, they don't have a choice so I see this as the short-term plan: a power 2, a middle 2 and G5. In exchange they get two teams to the playoff guaranteed every year and that’s a pretty sweet deal for both conferences if we are being honest.
In the long run B1G and SEC are going to break away, I agree.
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To be fair it frees up my Saturdays.
I don't have to rush home from Ewood Park to catch the Miami noon kickoff.
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Well prime G5 match ups will be on Wed, Thur Fri nights.
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This is all coming to a head.
It’s like a scene out of the godfather, except this time, it’s settling all the lawsuits, creating a new business model(s), doing the realignment all at once even if staggered, and only the SEC &B1G conference have the various full power levers to manipulate to do all of that, even if they leave others behind.
And despite the crying here, I still believe (I would say know but no one TRULY knows even at the top - just clarifying because I’m not remotely backing on my view including recent Conversations and before some ****** comes in to the chat) Miami will be in the Big Ten when it’s all said and done.
Yet despite that fact what the Big Ten and the SEC are trying to do is ******* disgusting. There is greed and arrogance and then there is just being ******* ridiculous. When Miami moves it will be from incompetence to gluttony.
If you didn’t watch Josh Pate last night, or Andy Staples on three this morning, you should
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It’s like a scene out of the godfather, except this time, it’s settling all the lawsuits, creating a new business model(s), doing the realignment all at once even if staggered, and only the SEC &B1G conference have the various full power levers to manipulate to do all of that, even if they leave others behind.
And despite the crying here, I still believe (I would say know but no one TRULY knows even at the top - just clarifying because I’m not remotely backing on my view including recent Conversations and before some ****** comes in to the chat) Miami will be in the Big Ten when it’s all said and done.
Yet despite that fact what the Big Ten and the SEC are trying to do is ******* disgusting. There is greed and arrogance and then there is just being ******* ridiculous. When Miami moves it will be from incompetence to gluttony.
If you didn’t watch Josh Pate last night, or Andy Staples on three this morning, you should
Why the ACC and Big 12 face a no-win situation in 14-team CFP proposal
Only the ACC and Big 12 have any power to push back on the Big Ten and SEC's plans for the future. But there are tough decisions to make.
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Going to be even harder to transfer to one of the P2 if ACC officially gives in to these demands.This is all coming to a head.
It’s like a scene out of the godfather, except this time, it’s settling all the lawsuits, creating a new business model(s), doing the realignment all at once even if staggered, and only the SEC &B1G conference have the various full power levers to manipulate to do all of that, even if they leave others behind.
And despite the crying here, I still believe (I would say know but no one TRULY knows even at the top - just clarifying because I’m not remotely backing on my view including recent Conversations and before some ****** comes in to the chat) Miami will be in the Big Ten when it’s all said and done.
Yet despite that fact what the Big Ten and the SEC are trying to do is ******* disgusting. There is greed and arrogance and then there is just being ******* ridiculous. When Miami moves it will be from incompetence to gluttony.
If you didn’t watch Josh Pate last night, or Andy Staples on three this morning, you should
View attachment 283580Why the ACC and Big 12 face a no-win situation in 14-team CFP proposal
Only the ACC and Big 12 have any power to push back on the Big Ten and SEC's plans for the future. But there are tough decisions to make.
Miami will have zero leverage if the ACC is relegated.
The only leverage we had with the ACC was withholding our vote to expand unless they agreed to concessions when we wanted to leave.
The only leverage we had against B1G or SEC is that we're in Florida and hoping they'd both want us. The B1G to get into Florida and the SEC to keep them out.
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'In conjunction with the ESPN deal, ACC member schools also agreed to a new Grant of Rights. In a unanimous vote from the ACC Council of Presidents, which is chaired by Clemson president Jim Clements, league members agreed that any school that leaves the conference before 2036 will forfeit its media rights to the ACC regardless of that school’s new affiliation.
“That’s the glue. You don’t get to this point without understanding who you’re dancing with,” Radakovich said. “Certainly, longer term, there will be additional resources available to help fund our programs. Shorter term, the ACC brand, the Clemson brand and all of our 15 institutions, its sets us in a really good circumstance. As there are five Power 5 conferences, we need to make sure that we are positioned in a really good way to stay competitive with those other leagues.”'
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Miami trying to get into P2
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Rad is Fredo Corleone.
2016:
'In conjunction with the ESPN deal, ACC member schools also agreed to a new Grant of Rights. In a unanimous vote from the ACC Council of Presidents, which is chaired by Clemson president Jim Clements, league members agreed that any school that leaves the conference before 2036 will forfeit its media rights to the ACC regardless of that school’s new affiliation.
“That’s the glue. You don’t get to this point without understanding who you’re dancing with,” Radakovich said. “Certainly, longer term, there will be additional resources available to help fund our programs. Shorter term, the ACC brand, the Clemson brand and all of our 15 institutions, its sets us in a really good circumstance. As there are five Power 5 conferences, we need to make sure that we are positioned in a really good way to stay competitive with those other leagues.”'
ACC Network cleared for launch
ACC extends ESPN deal to 2036, plans 20-game hoops schedulewww.greenvilleonline.com
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There really haven't been any comments by any "insiders" regarding the prospects that Miami might be left behind in the P2 consolidation. A lot of smoke on Twitter regarding the potential that the B10 will be capped at 20 with the addition of FSU and ND, possibly move to 21 if UNC will agree to join as they are additive geographically (carriage fees for NC) and coveted by presidents for academics. Several media analysts have stated that it makes no financial sense to add Miami as it is not "additive" for carriage fees so Miami might be shut out of the P2 ... at least until the next media contract in 28-29 ... or later.
IF ND, FSU and UNC are out of the ACC ESPN won't extend the current contract and any new offer might be well below $30M per school. With the P2 talking about leaving the NCAA, going to players as employees, and having their own "championship" with the "other conferences" having their separate championship ... we end up with the P2 and "tier 2". Not a good situation and nobody at UM has made any comments regarding any actions by UM to maintain relevance long term. Seems like Radacovitch is in retirement mode, banking cash and getting ready to head off into the sunset. Any "insiders" have any insight at all into what is actually going on at UM regarding conference affiliation / realignment?
IF ND, FSU and UNC are out of the ACC ESPN won't extend the current contract and any new offer might be well below $30M per school. With the P2 talking about leaving the NCAA, going to players as employees, and having their own "championship" with the "other conferences" having their separate championship ... we end up with the P2 and "tier 2". Not a good situation and nobody at UM has made any comments regarding any actions by UM to maintain relevance long term. Seems like Radacovitch is in retirement mode, banking cash and getting ready to head off into the sunset. Any "insiders" have any insight at all into what is actually going on at UM regarding conference affiliation / realignment?
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this has been my fear as well. I have felt we absolutely needed to go in at same time as FSU (carriage rights) or ND (rivalry). But if both of those go without us, what is the incentive for the B1G to add us later on?
Even with any new media rights talks, why would they bring in another school that doesn’t change the equation anymore (no additional carriage fees)?
The only way I see the Big 2 adding more teams later is if they break away altogether. Miami would be a lock in that scenario imho. And they are threatening that to get additional perks right now.
But I’m betting they (Big 12 and ACC) will cave and agree to a kids table arrangement (fewer AQ). If that happens, no reason to expand unless new school BRINGS more money (carriage fees).
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Because there are no leaks we are sitting with our thumbs in out asses waiting to see what happens?
Doubt that
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