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[MiamiVice7]

Physically beat the **** out of them people and still lost. SMH

Wrong. Didn’t you hear, FSU dominated us!!

 

[DTP]

We keep ignoring that the gtech game was over lol

We don't throw 3 picks and there's no reason to bother taking a knee.

 

[DTP]

Cut the turnovers in half and it’s a different game.

We have been in every game and beat two talented teams we weren’t expected to.

Really missed a huge opportunity to change the perception and trajectory of this program with all the mistakes.

Quarterback is still the most important position in sports and this season is proof. Great quarterback play can make an average team good and poor quarterback play can make an otherwise good team into an average one.

The thing that worries me is that this staff seems to believe that they can skate by with average quarterback play as long as they're solid on the line and to me that's a recipe for mediocre seasons. We've seen the line protect great this year while Van Dyke threw picks and Williams threw the ball to nobody in particular. We need to put a greater emphasis on signing better quarterbacks.

 

[DTP]

Some would argue that the 4-0 turnovers in that game had alot to do with it, I think we fumbled goin in and had another turnover when driving early, while alos giving them another right on doorstep of their endzone.. Defense has played one bad quarter and it was in that game tho..

Yeah, I'm only putting the two picks on bad quarterback play though. One fumble was by a running back and the other was a poor shotgun snap. Turnovers were definitely the difference in the game though.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

 

[PIPO]

Quarterback is still the most important position in sports and this season is proof. Great quarterback play can make an average team good and poor quarterback play can make an otherwise good team into an average one.

The thing that worries me is that this staff seems to believe that they can skate by with average quarterback play as long as they're solid on the line and to me that's a recipe for mediocre seasons. We've seen the line protect great this year while Van Dyke threw picks and Williams threw the ball to nobody in particular. We need to put a greater emphasis on signing better quarterbacks.

Agreed and I am not defending their WB recruiting but you also have to have a good scheme to go with the QB, which I know you would agree with.

Look at Josh Allen. He’s always thrown picks. Picks are up this year, TDs are down, the rating is pretty much the same and his QB rushes are way down. As was pointed out by others, the scheme was very basic and thus predictable. Seems to be the same thing with Dawson. Not excusing TVD but the OC hasn’t changed or done anything different.

In the end, yes. We could be Louisville record wise. Their stats aren’t really better than ours. Easier schedule but also no boneheaded coaching and better offensive scheme.

 

[E1k]

We don't throw 3 picks and there's no reason to bother taking a knee.

It’s football, **** happens …Not taking a knee under a minute is worse than throwing picks. Its disgusting yall tryna take blame off of mario for that lol

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Emory had ALL DAY to throw, again, just like TVD has all year, and we still completed 33% of our passes. Absolutely disgusting QB play since the GT game man, makes me sick to my stomach.

Dawson let him throw it some, too. First drive of the game from your own 2 yard line on 1st down, he's got buddy standing back there waiting to take a deep shot. And the ball was nowhere close to Colbie. 3rd and 6 from the 6, nothing conservative there either, has him dropping back to the goal line and waiting on a middle breaking route that's WIDE OPEN. Dreadful throw. I'm sure the kid was nervous, and he did make a few OK throws, obviously the 85 yarder to George shouldn't have gone for 85 yards but it was still a very well thrown ball. The fade to George for the TD was a pretty simple throw but still it was perfectly placed and on time (what a gorgeous, patient route too. Shoutout JG and Kevin Beard, that thing was pretty).

But he threw the ball 23 times for 175 yards. 2 of the passes went for 85 and 43.

So that means he threw 21 passes that gained a total of 47 yards the rest of the game. Brutal.

 

[DTP]

It’s football, **** happens …Not taking a knee under a minute is worse than throwing picks. Its disgusting yall tryna take blame off of mario for that lol

My point still stands.

 

[skydogcane6]

We lost the game because of the 2 chances we had a chance to really steal and keep momentum our gameplan was to settle for field goals.

Last drive of the first half: 1st and 10 from FSU 31. 1:20 to go and 2 timeouts. We only got off 5 plays including getting stuffed from 3rd and 1 from the 4 yard line. Settled for field goal. 6 plays for 22 yards

1st drive of 2nd half. Recover onside kick at FSU 47. 5 plays for 14 yards (first play was a 20 yard run too. So lost 6 yards the next 3 plays). Settled for field goal.

Both those drives should have been Dawson's time to pull out his best plays and completely take momentum by going up 21-10 instead of 13-10.

This. Would’ve been great to go tempo right after recovering the onside kick to really deflate them.

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Miami would be 9-1 with good QB play this year. UNC bent our defense over so I'm not going to give us a win in that one but every other loss would have been an easy win with just average QB play.

And to think the North Carolina game really came down to one bad quarter. We went into halftime with the lead and outscored them in the fourth quarter.

What could have been.

 

[bdcane4eva]

lol
barely lost to an overrated but overslurped by CIS Nole team that we easily could have beaten with a few tweaks from the coaches...

 

[PIPO]

Emory had ALL DAY to throw, again, just like TVD has all year, and we still completed 33% of our passes. Absolutely disgusting QB play since the GT game man, makes me sick to my stomach.

Dawson let him throw it some, too. First drive of the game from your own 2 yard line on 1st down, he's got buddy standing back there waiting to take a deep shot. And the ball was nowhere close to Colbie. 3rd and 6 from the 6, nothing conservative there either, has him dropping back to the goal line and waiting on a middle breaking route that's WIDE OPEN. Dreadful throw. I'm sure the kid was nervous, and he did make a few OK throws, obviously the 85 yarder to George shouldn't have gone for 85 yards but it was still a very well thrown ball. The fade to George for the TD was a pretty simple throw but still it was perfectly placed and on time (what a gorgeous, patient route too. Shoutout JG and Kevin Beard, that thing was pretty).

But he threw the ball 23 times for 175 yards. 2 of the passes went for 85 and 43.

So that means he threw 21 passes that gained a total of 47 yards the rest of the game. Brutal.

Spot on!

Not to mention that then coaching, on many plays hasn’t helped the QB by having 3 routes while keeping in the tight end and RB blocking (vs 8 in coverage) which is why our QBs have all day to throw on many passing downs. Hard to complete a pass when it’s 3 revivers vs 7 or 8 in coverage.

 

[cway313]

Emory had ALL DAY to throw, again, just like TVD has all year, and we still completed 33% of our passes. Absolutely disgusting QB play since the GT game man, makes me sick to my stomach.

Dawson let him throw it some, too. First drive of the game from your own 2 yard line on 1st down, he's got buddy standing back there waiting to take a deep shot. And the ball was nowhere close to Colbie. 3rd and 6 from the 6, nothing conservative there either, has him dropping back to the goal line and waiting on a middle breaking route that's WIDE OPEN. Dreadful throw. I'm sure the kid was nervous, and he did make a few OK throws, obviously the 85 yarder to George shouldn't have gone for 85 yards but it was still a very well thrown ball. The fade to George for the TD was a pretty simple throw but still it was perfectly placed and on time (what a gorgeous, patient route too. Shoutout JG and Kevin Beard, that thing was pretty).

But he threw the ball 23 times for 175 yards. 2 of the passes went for 85 and 43.

So that means he threw 21 passes that gained a total of 47 yards the rest of the game. Brutal.

Way better than Jacurri stop this.

 

[Calinative]

Agreed and I am not defending their WB recruiting but you also have to have a good scheme to go with the QB, which I know you would agree with.

Look at Josh Allen. He’s always thrown picks. Picks are up this year, TDs are down, the rating is pretty much the same and his QB rushes are way down. As was pointed out by others, the scheme was very basic and thus predictable. Seems to be the same thing with Dawson. Not excusing TVD but the OC hasn’t changed or done anything different.

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In the end, yes. We could be Louisville record wise. Their stats aren’t really better than ours. Easier schedule but also no boneheaded coaching and better offensive scheme.

The difference is Josh Allen’s interceptions that are a result of interceptable passes is extremely high, and the Bills are also fumbling a lot. Let’s say normal QBs throw bad passes and they hit DBs hands 20 times. Well mostly this may result in say 15 interceptions…well for Allen this season it’s resulted in 22 because not only are all the ones hitting DBs in the hands resulting in interceptions, so are some that are hitting his own receivers in the hands like what happened last game lol.

The Bills have a top 3 offense by almost every category in the NFL. And Allen actually is throwing less interceptable passes than he has in the past. But they are resulting in interceptions at a higher rate than they usually do. However due to how the NFL defense are playing these top QBs, they are making a point to limit big plays. Josh Allen has been a big play machine, but this yr his big plays are down (so are Mahomes - and by a lot). The difference is Mahomes is not overly risky and can just sit there passing 5-10 yards. Allen takes risks when there isn’t good reason too. Also the Bills from the top down specifically don’t want Allen to run as much and be out in as much harm. He’s been one of the best mscrambling QBs in the league, and now that has artificially been limited for his long-term health - also because he doesn’t make good decisions about when to just go out or slide.

This is very different from TVD. TVD just literally is lost out there right now. Any throw he makes past 10 yards is a prayer to not be directly to the db right now.

 

[MediaNoche]

That was the clear difference in this game

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[PIPO]

The difference is Josh Allen’s interceptions that are a result of interceptable passes is extremely high, and the Bills are also fumbling a lot. Let’s say normal QBs throw bad passes and they hit DBs hands 20 times. Well mostly this may result in say 15 interceptions…well for Allen this season it’s resulted in 22 because not only are all the ones hitting DBs in the hands resulting in interceptions, so are some that are hitting his own receivers in the hands like what happened last game lol.

The Bills have a top 3 offense by almost every category in the NFL. And Allen actually is throwing less interceptable passes than he has in the past. But they are resulting in interceptions at a higher rate than they usually do. However due to how the NFL defense are playing these top QBs, they are making a point to limit big plays. Josh Allen has been a big play machine, but this yr his big plays are down (so are Mahomes - and by a lot). The difference is Mahomes is not overly risky and can just sit there passing 5-10 yards. Allen takes risks when there isn’t good reason too. Also the Bills from the top down specifically don’t want Allen to run as much and be out in as much harm. He’s been one of the best mscrambling QBs in the league, and now that has artificially been limited for his long-term health - also because he doesn’t make good decisions about when to just go out or slide.

This is very different from TVD. TVD just literally is lost out there right now. Any throw he makes past 10 yards is a prayer to not be directly to the db right now.

My point had to do more with the offensive game plan. I am pinning some of it on the QB and some on the OC (Dorsey).

I get your point.

But I look at that situation comparing it to my team, The Eagles.

Hurts lost his OC to Indy as Steichen became head coach. In the first 4-5 games, the offense looked different. Adjustments have been made by the OC and the Eagles offense is starting to look much better now and more formidable.

 

[Rellyrell]

The “if” game. Smh.

 

[JHallCanes]

holy ****

Hard hitting analysis OP

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

The “if” game. Smh.

Yup. End of the day, they were better. Not by much, but they were better. And it’s mostly cause the dude they had under center was a lot more efficient than the dude we did. Not entirely, but you switch QBs and Miami wins. Pretty simple.

However, that’s the name of the game. The team that plays the best usually wins lol