Coach Dennis Erickson will be in attendance on Saturday

[Buck Teeth]

DE's NC teams were JJ's teams.

Is this Al Golden's team?

Golden was not a Good coach, but he brought in quality talent, even though folks dont want to give him credit. Again, Golden wasn't a good coach and he sacrificed talent for scheme.

Dennis was a better coach. He knew how to win with talent, but he was not a great recruiter or developer of talent, epecially on offense. Notice the decline of offensive talent when JJ's guys left.

 

[miamicanephins]

You asked a stupid question, what do you think the answer is going to be? Stop asking ignorant lawyer type leading questions.

It wasn't a stupid question. You just didn't like the corner that it painted the original poster (and you?) in.

If Erickson's championship teams were Jimmy's than is team Golden's?

Simple question that requires a simple answer.

It's not really a simple question.

If a new coach retains some of the prior coaching staff and maintains a similar philosophy to the out going coach, then it could be said it was X's team. But in Richt's case it was a complete over haul, so no it's not folden's team.

Do you have a picture of Johnny Cochran on your bedroom wall?

 

[Canedude08]

DE's NC teams were JJ's teams.

Is this Al Golden's team?

Golden was not a Good coach, but he brought in quality talent, even though folks dont want to give him credit. Again, Golden wasn't a good coach and he sacrificed talent for scheme.

Dennis was a better coach. He knew how to win with talent, but he was not a great recruiter or developer of talent, epecially on offense. Notice the decline of offensive talent when JJ's guys left.

Golden was a solid program administrator, he really pushed for the changes that brought the program into the 21st century. Frankly, Golden inherited a greasefire, and through being organized helped make it possible for Richt to step in and do well immediately. That said, he was overly loyal to garbage assistants, and that's what eventually sunk him. If Golden would have held on to Fisch(The best hire he ever made), and found a good defensive coordinator that understood how to call an aggressive, speed based hybrid 3-4, he would have been fine. That said, he didn't, and that's why he was run out of town.

Dennis Erickson may have been the best gameday coach Miami has ever seen, he was deadly in regards to adjusting, and his offenses were usually **** good. He was also a **** good judge of coaching talent, his coaching staffs had great talent running through it. The problem with Erickson was that he wasn't a disciplined man, and that lack of discipline was magnified by where he was. You can't be an undisciplined person and succeed long term in Coral Gables. His flaws became evident and as those good coaches moved on, he was unable to keep the train rolling. Eventually the dynasty was going to go down, and Erickson's lack of discipline made it easier for that to happen.

He did win two national championships, and then came back and took an Oregon State team to a BCS bowl game following his disastrous tenure in Seattle. So, the dude obviously has a clue about coaching. He even had some good years in Tempe, I thought he was going to make Arizona State a consistent winner.

 

[Doppelganger]

LOL, ok. Wasn't being selective, just holding you accountable for your moronic trollboy question. Which if asked in a courtroom would be objected to and ignored.

Yes you were.

You liked Jimmy Johnson so the teams left behind were "his" but you don't like Al Golden so the teams he left behind aren't "his."

Nothing moronic about the question. It was logical given what the previous poster said.

 

[Doppelganger]

If a new coach retains some of the prior coaching staff and maintains a similar philosophy to the out going coach, then it could be said it was X's team.

Dennis Erickson didn't retain a single member of Jimmy's full-time staff (Art Kehoe was the only holdover).

He also changed one whole unit of the team (installing his one-back offense).

You're grasping now.

 

[Doppelganger]

That said, he was overly loyal to garbage assistants, and that's what eventually sunk him.

But Coker wasn't loyal to his assistants and people killed him for it.

Loyalty is an overrated trait one way or the other. People don't care as long as you win. Period.

 

[miamicanephins]

LOL, ok. Wasn't being selective, just holding you accountable for your moronic trollboy question. Which if asked in a courtroom would be objected to and ignored.

Yes you were.

You liked Jimmy Johnson so the teams left behind were "his" but you don't like Al Golden so the teams he left behind aren't "his."

Nothing moronic about the question. It was logical given what the previous poster said.

Liking Al has nothing to do with it. Those prior Miami teams looked like previous Miami teams year after year because each coach followed the blueprint. No matter the coach, you were going to get Miami football. The current Miami coached MR team has no similarity to anything folden put together. Therefore, Al gets no credit for the current success, only blame for his failure.

 

[Doppelganger]

Liking Al has nothing to do with it. Those prior Miami teams looked like previous Miami teams year after year because each coach followed the blueprint.

So now you're tossing out a made up "blueprint" argument.

Nice.

 

[Doppelganger]

The current Miami coached MR team has no similarity to anything folden put together. Therefore, Al gets no credit for the current success, only blame for his failure.

You're flopping around like a fish out of water trying to justify your silly claims.

 

[Canedude08]

That said, he was overly loyal to garbage assistants, and that's what eventually sunk him.

But Coker wasn't loyal to his assistants and people killed him for it.

Loyalty is an overrated trait one way or the other. People don't care as long as you win. Period.

Coker threw his assistants under the bus to save his own skin, and people knew it. People also saw that he was a caretaker that had no earthly idea how to manage a program over an extended period. He was a babysitter, and it was obvious from the day he took over. It wasn't like Miami promoted a young, up and coming assistant like OU did with Lincoln Riley, or Nebraska did with Tom Osborne. They promoted a career assistant that was a complete nobody, that hadn't received any HC buzz WHATSOEVER.

 

[miamicanephins]

The current Miami coached MR team has no similarity to anything folden put together. Therefore, Al gets no credit for the current success, only blame for his failure.

You're flopping around like a fish out of water trying to justify your silly claims.

So you're suggesting an al folden team resembles the current CMR coached team? Now that would be silly. Oh yeah, you're the one who contends Shalala was good for the football program. Even F. Lee Bailey wouldn't agree with that.

 

[miamicanephins]

Liking Al has nothing to do with it. Those prior Miami teams looked like previous Miami teams year after year because each coach followed the blueprint.

So now you're tossing out a made up "blueprint" argument.

Nice.

Who made up the blueprint argument? You've obviously heard of it, so it is a thing, no? You disagree with the blueprint.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

I can still picture him getting off the bus with his arms flailing in the air. Pink might not have been a diligent recruiter, but that man could coach football. Welcome back, Champ.

 

[mackjones]

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[MENTION=3894]Peter Ariz[/MENTION] get him on the podcast

I wonder if Dennis will be the guest on College Game day. hUh.

 

[mackjones]

DE's NC teams were JJ's teams.

Is this Al Golden's team?

Golden was not a Good coach, but he brought in quality talent, even though folks dont want to give him credit. Again, Golden wasn't a good coach and he sacrificed talent for scheme.

Dennis was a better coach. He knew how to win with talent, but he was not a great recruiter or developer of talent, epecially on offense. Notice the decline of offensive talent when JJ's guys left.

Golden was a solid program administrator, he really pushed for the changes that brought the program into the 21st century. Frankly, Golden inherited a greasefire, and through being organized helped make it possible for Richt to step in and do well immediately. That said, he was overly loyal to garbage assistants, and that's what eventually sunk him. If Golden would have held on to Fisch(The best hire he ever made), and found a good defensive coordinator that understood how to call an aggressive, speed based hybrid 3-4, he would have been fine. That said, he didn't, and that's why he was run out of town.

Dennis Erickson may have been the best gameday coach Miami has ever seen, he was deadly in regards to adjusting, and his offenses were usually **** good. He was also a **** good judge of coaching talent, his coaching staffs had great talent running through it. The problem with Erickson was that he wasn't a disciplined man, and that lack of discipline was magnified by where he was. You can't be an undisciplined person and succeed long term in Coral Gables. His flaws became evident and as those good coaches moved on, he was unable to keep the train rolling. Eventually the dynasty was going to go down, and Erickson's lack of discipline made it easier for that to happen.

He did win two national championships, and then came back and took an Oregon State team to a BCS bowl game following his disastrous tenure in Seattle. So, the dude obviously has a clue about coaching. He even had some good years in Tempe, I thought he was going to make Arizona State a consistent winner.

ANYBODY who continues to apologize for the INCOMPETENT Golden Boy, can't be a Cane fan!

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I can still picture him getting off the bus with his arms flailing in the air. Pink might not have been a diligent recruiter, but that man could coach football. Welcome back, Champ.

I’m pretty sure you’re talking about the FSU game at the Orange bowl

 

[Pete]

You asked a stupid question, what do you think the answer is going to be? Stop asking ignorant lawyer type leading questions.

It wasn't a stupid question. You just didn't like the corner that it painted the original poster (and you?) in.

If Erickson's championship teams were Jimmy's than is team Golden's?

Don't confuse me with the facts,my mind is made up!You been Doppelganged!

 

[Pentagon Cane]

I can still picture him getting off the bus with his arms flailing in the air. Pink might not have been a diligent recruiter, but that man could coach football. Welcome back, Champ.

I’m pretty sure you’re talking about the FSU game at the Orange bowl

Maybe the most animated Erickson was at Miami. He ***** the bed in Tallahassee the year prior. In two separate series inside the FSU 5 yard line, he ran option with Gino. Bowden told Erickson to get used to it at the post-game handshake. He was intent on running down Bowden's throat and we rarely threw in the 1990 game. We also made life miserable for Brad Johnson. For all of his faults, Erickson was competitive as ****. One of his greatest moments. He was jacked running over to shake Bowden's hand.

I'll take any karma we can get. All is forgiven this weekend with Erickson.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Butch bailed out DE or we'd remember him differently. He was a good scheme and game day coach who won with a program JJ and HS built. He also was a lazy supervisor who allowed the problems to develop that took the program down. And he was a hype recruiter -- not the evaluator that JJ and Butch were. If Butch hadnt rebuilt the dynasty, DE would be remembered as the guy who crashed it. Instead Coker gets remembered (fairly) that way.

 

[Loose Cannon]

He was the Mike Leach of the 90s

No not really.

Mike Leach has yet to sniff one NC.

Shīt, Leach has yet to sniff any kind of conference or division title.

Their similarities is that they both were/are innovative on offense

LOL @ all these people impressed with these exotic offensive concept pimps that go 9-3 or 10-2 every year putting up arcade numbers against garbage opponents in a weak conference, who always end up biting the pillow and taking it in the *** when they are finally forced to play a team with a fundamentally sound defense that simply maintains gap integrity through all the motion and misdirection bull****.