CJ Bailey needs to come home

[rascon]

I'm in agreements 100% with everything you said except seeing the need for a number one receiver. Assuming you mean number one like a big name. Because the necessity and how that offense would be ran would be ball management. Limit his risks. So I don't really believe a true number one is necessary in that capacity. If anything I would say a more dominant tight end. Even though I believe more than likely we already have that in house. But now that heart line is gone from OSU I definitely will be paying attention to their offseason. If things go how I assume they will then maybe we should be in the market for a true number one... #justsayin

Go get Jeremiah or just someone who will force defenses to play Toney a little more honestly than he will otherwise get next year. Then we can allow a 3rd wr to organically break out among Moore, Upshaw or even the incoming freshmen like Wingo or Parris.

A young qb would benefit by a ball management offense but their confidence can grow leaps and bounds with each successful calculated downfield throw.

I think the team doesn’t have to have a huge letdown next year. I think we will be able to retain talent that in past years would have transferred or gone pro prematurely.

 

[skeeter]

Go get Jeremiah or just someone

Lol…Okaaaay then I'm sure that will be easy

 

[Lance Roffers]

Carrying them where?

They did beat four 8-win teams and three wins over SP+ top-40 teams (as many as Miami).

With a bad HC and zero talent outside of Bailey.

These things don't mean causation on their own, but I'd say he's carried them far above where they should be against that schedule.

I'll review whomever we pull and will root for them like any other Cane. I just think Bailey is better than this board overall seems to think (and I get things wrong all the time so what do I know).

 

[TboneJones]

Jesus **** my life christ... So leaps is how this is described? Joe Burrow in his two seasons as a third string QB at OSU behind Cardale jones and JT barret had 39 passing attempts. 29 completions. Literally nothing was asked of him. His first year as a starter was his first year at LSU where they went 10-3 and didn't ask a lot out of him. 2900 yards 16tds, 7 tds rushing and 5 picks...

Jaydin daniels was a freshman all American. He was a semi finalist for national freshman of the year. Had 5 300+ yard passing games all as a true freshman. Kid was a beast.

Really not sure what some of y'all are comparing people to before y'all say stuff. ***** crazy to even mention either of these dudes like they had struggles as starters let alone not acknowledge the fact their trajectory from day 1 was that of a superstar...

I saw Jayden in his 3rd year at ASU throw for 2380 with 10 TDs and 10 INTs. The shine had worn off Jayden by his 3rd year in college. Sounds like you are just saying stuff. If you know Jayden he had fell the **** off after that freshman season.

 

[TboneJones]

Jesus **** my life christ... So leaps is how this is described? Joe Burrow in his two seasons as a third string QB at OSU behind Cardale jones and JT barret had 39 passing attempts. 29 completions. Literally nothing was asked of him. His first year as a starter was his first year at LSU where they went 10-3 and didn't ask a lot out of him. 2900 yards 16tds, 7 tds rushing and 5 picks...

Jaydin daniels was a freshman all American. He was a semi finalist for national freshman of the year. Had 5 300+ yard passing games all as a true freshman. Kid was a beast.

Really not sure what some of y'all are comparing people to before y'all say stuff. ***** crazy to even mention either of these dudes like they had struggles as starters let alone not acknowledge the fact their trajectory from day 1 was that of a superstar...

What?! Those are respectable numbers from Burrow in his first year as a starter. Mind you, he transferred late and he was still at OSU that summer before the season. So, who carried LSU that season where they didn't ask Burrow to do much according to you? Since you know every **** thing tell me that.

 

[ddann]

I don’t even remember that. That’s telling. He was a backup for yeas who was essentially an extra coach. I was a 6 year old that year. He played most of the games as Griese was out hurt. It was a question discussed back then as to whether he should continue in the playoffs as Griese came back - can’t remember when exactly.

Here he is…

 

[RVACane]

Here he is…

Testaverde, Vanderwende, Kelly, Richt, Kosar

Good Lord!

 

[Brooklyndee]

What?! Those are respectable numbers from Burrow in his first year as a starter. Mind you, he transferred late and he was still at OSU that summer before the season. So, who carried LSU that season where they didn't ask Burrow to do much according to you? Since you know every **** thing tell me that.

Maybe you should read those comments that were made before you say that... Wasn't gonna bother with what you said about jayden in his third year. (Really his second year due to COVID season of a few games) I guess we won't bother to account for the fact other than Ricky pearsall his entire team was gone by the 21 season on offense basically. We also shouldn't account for the fact his oc and QB coach left after his first year to take a job for us? No pressure. Your take is apparently that he needed Brian kelly to revitalize his career. Had nothing at all to do with what I mentioned or the fact zak hill is a joke as a playcaller and isn't even a position coach any longer let alone an oc. No need to argue we just got different opinions if you're co-signing what either of those dudes said about jaydin daniels and Joe burrow being bad before they got to LSU. I'll stick to I'll happily take either of them.

 

[canecrazy23]

Our D is kinda good. 4th best if I'm not mistaken. He definitely wasn't at his best. However 1 game isn't everything. He has 22 starts, including 21 others.

Here's the kicker.....the class is weak. CJ is probably the best available or hovering in there. There's just not anyone out there without questions or concerns. CJ is just the most accurate and probably highest ceiling too.

17/30 186yards 1 TD and 3 Int's -14 yards rushing Sacked 4 times.

That was a bad game for sure. Only problem is that was against ND. So that would be 2 games.

I like Bailey but he seems to fold under pressure.

 

[GrozDozer]

17/30 186yards 1 TD and 3 Int's -14 yards rushing Sacked 4 times.

That was a bad game for sure. Only problem is that was against ND. So that would be 2 games.

I like Bailey but he seems to fold under pressure.

So put him on a team that won’t allow him to be pressured.

 

[Hstokes1447]

I’m in on the Bailey train. Dawson offense thrive with accurate quarterbacks and Bailey is the most accurate of them all.

 

[Hstokes1447]

 

[Cane4life18]

I’m in on the Bailey train. Dawson offense thrive with accurate quarterbacks and Bailey is the most accurate of them all.

He'll also add another dimension with his mobility and willingness to run the rock. Bailey QB1

 

[Hstokes1447]

He'll also add another dimension with his mobility and willingness to run the rock. Bailey QB1

He should also be an instant locker room fit being from South Florida and knowing several of the players. He just seems to check all of the boxes, add a big time TE and a field stretching X, and he could have an impressive season.

 

[MedleyCane]

He should also be an instant locker room fit being from South Florida and knowing several of the players. He just seems to check all of the boxes, add a big time TE and a field stretching X, and he could have an impressive season.

People are being overly critical on the young man, IMO.
People forget this is only his second year at this level of college football.
In another era, prior to transfer portal, a player of this talent not playing on a stacked HS team, may have ended up at a JUCO or perhaps an HBCU and left people wondering how the heck the "big" schools missed him.
Sign him up if he wants to be a Cane.

 

[Cribby]

People are being overly critical on the young man, IMO.
People forget this is only his second year at this level of college football.
In another era, prior to transfer portal, a player of this talent not playing on a stacked HS team, may have ended up at a JUCO or perhaps an HBCU and left people wondering how the heck the "big" schools missed him.
Sign him up if he wants to be a Cane.

I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll do it again. People here either overrate or underrate south Florida guys. If Bailey was from say Texas and went to NC State their opinions would be different. Both sides would be less steadfast in their arguments. I personally think we’d be fine with Bailey , is he one of my top 2-3 guys ? No but we’d win alot of games with him.

 

[423Hurricane]

I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll do it again. People here either overrate or underrated south Florida guys. If Bailey was from say Texas and went to NC State their opinions would be different. Both sides would be less steadfast in their arguments. I personally think we’d be fine with Bailey , is he one of my top 2-3 guys ? No but we’d win alot of games with him.

I don’t stalk you so I don’t know if you’ve named your top guys.

 

[Cribby]

I don’t stalk you so I don’t know if you’ve named your top guys.

Jks was far and away my top guy but I’ve always stated I doubt he leaves beens the money he’s making.

 

[MedleyCane]

I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll do it again. People here either overrate or underrate south Florida guys. If Bailey was from say Texas and went to NC State their opinions would be different. Both sides would be less steadfast in their arguments. I personally think we’d be fine with Bailey , is he one of my top 2-3 guys ? No but we’d win alot of games with him.

This is fair and, as we've learned from Mario, there are football players across the country just as good or better than our local kids. But I also believe that for some reason our coaches have traditionally (slightly) undervalued our local HS QBs.

 

[OldhamA]

I'm in agreements 100% with everything you said except seeing the need for a number one receiver. Assuming you mean number one like a big name. Because the necessity and how that offense would be ran would be ball management. Limit his risks. So I don't really believe a true number one is necessary in that capacity. If anything I would say a more dominant tight end. Even though I believe more than likely we already have that in house. But now that heart line is gone from OSU I definitely will be paying attention to their offseason. If things go how I assume they will then maybe we should be in the market for a true number one... #justsayin

That Schott kid looked the business for the brief time he was healthy.

I'm less bullish than you on the answer at QB being in-house (only because I've basically never seen Nickel play - and evidently he was behind Williams, a guy that has proven he can't play), but TE is a different story.

Unless Shockey / Olsen et al is walkin' through that door via the Portal I'd be content to go with Lofton, Gilbert, Schott, Briggs and Mueller. At some point you have to trust your high school recruiting and show players that they're going to get opportunities to play here.

I have the same opinion at DE.