Charlie strong interview

[Cane Dynasty]

Fk Charlie Brown

 

[fivecent]

Plus he had to fisrt clean up Texas personnel. He doesn't have to do that here, He just has to coach.

 

[3FW]

Rather have Paul Rhodes. Seriously though, don't downplay recruiting. We have not done anywhere near as well as we should.

 

[Consigliere]

Said it before and I'll say it now. This is Rich Rodriguez all over again. A very good coach that's a bad fit at a prestigious program.

The dude didn't forget how to coach defense. Which of these do you think is the anomaly?

South Carolina ('00)- 6th in scoring defense
Florida ('08)- 3rd in scoring defense
Louisville ('09)- 2nd in scoring defense
Texas ('15)- 81st in scoring defense

The key for him would be hiring a good OC. He bungled that situation in Texas. Pair him with a rising talent like Ken Dorsey and the results could be interesting.

Strong's talent evaluation at Louisville was almost Butch-like. He had TEN guys drafted last year. And if Bridgewater "made" Strong (which I think is bull****), Kaaya can do the same thing. I wouldn't put him before Butch or Herman, but he'd be the next guy for me (I don't see Fuente as a culture fit).

Great, you're on the record for the ninth time supporting Strong. Strong is a bad fit at any good program, why? Because he is not capable of coaching against the big boys with better talent. I know you're full dug in on Strong, but loosen up a tad.

How is it an argument in support of a candidate to say he needs a "good OC"? What I think you're saying is Strong has no ***ing clue how to run an offense and he needs a chit ton of help? Is that right? Strong bungled that situation in Texas because HE HAS NO ***ING CLUE WHAT HE IS DOING. Yes the key to his future lies with an NFL QB coach. That is all Strong needs.

Another person, yourself, who also believes Strong needs his incompetence masked with an elite QB. Congrats! Welcome to our side. Pairing him up with Kaaya would probably hurt Kaaya's development more than anything.

Fuente doesn't have the culture fit for you? Too Spanish? How do you know this?

Strong would probably fit in well at Miami because we're accustomed to losing at this point and that is what Strong does best NOW.

I want an on the record prediction for Strong this year. How does your boy finish this season?

 

[Consigliere]

hes a better fit at a Florida program with Florida athletes , it's that simple

Broke, how ignorant are you?

He coached at UL and got Florida athletes, he can't do it at UT. Are they stopping Florida recruits at the border?

 

[Consigliere]

Said it before and I'll say it now. This is Rich Rodriguez all over again. A very good coach that's a bad fit at a prestigious program.

The dude didn't forget how to coach defense. Which of these do you think is the anomaly?

South Carolina ('00)- 6th in scoring defense
Florida ('08)- 3rd in scoring defense
Louisville ('09)- 2nd in scoring defense
Texas ('15)- 81st in scoring defense

The key for him would be hiring a good OC. He bungled that situation in Texas. Pair him with a rising talent like Ken Dorsey and the results could be interesting.

Strong's talent evaluation at Louisville was almost Butch-like. He had TEN guys drafted last year. And if Bridgewater "made" Strong (which I think is bull****), Kaaya can do the same thing. I wouldn't put him before Butch or Herman, but he'd be the next guy for me (I don't see Fuente as a culture fit).

"(I don't see Fuente as a culture fit)."

Why? Could you expand on that.
Thanks.

I heard he would be more interested in South Carolina, and from what I read he's a straight-laced Oklahoma guy who talks about pillars. Just doesn't seem like a fit.

I hope I'm wrong because he's a stud coach.

Who has done (see his resume) with utter dogchit at Memphis.

 

[Consigliere]

hes a better fit at a Florida program with Florida athletes , it's that simple

So he can't win unless he has the best athletes?

He has had elite defenses everywhere he has been except at Texas. We are talking about the UM job which he will have access to those players because of our recruiting base and that he is well respected in south florida

He's got access to great players at Texas. Problem is Texas isn't the Big East, so he doesn't enjoy the talent disparity Hurtt bought him at Louisville.

Yup

 

[Consigliere]

Not sure why all of the Strong hate. Didnt you see how he had those south florida boys boys playing in UL, that was Miami Football. And his OC was great with Teddy(not sure if still with him). I want Patterson or Butch or Herman but will take Strong Too.

Don't you see how that was 2 years ago at an inferior conference? Do you just discount his tenure as Texas? Skim over that part of his resume?

 

[brock]

Not sure why all of the Strong hate. Didnt you see how he had those south florida boys boys playing in UL, that was Miami Football. And his OC was great with Teddy(not sure if still with him). I want Patterson or Butch or Herman but will take Strong Too.

Don't you see how that was 2 years ago at an inferior conference? Do you just discount his tenure as Texas? Skim over that part of his resume?

When he coached at uf his defenses were the same way in the best conference. Saying Charlie strong can't coach is just ridiculous. Charlie strong is just a bad fit at Texas just like golden was a bad fit at miami

 

[Consigliere]

Not sure why all of the Strong hate. Didnt you see how he had those south florida boys boys playing in UL, that was Miami Football. And his OC was great with Teddy(not sure if still with him). I want Patterson or Butch or Herman but will take Strong Too.

Don't you see how that was 2 years ago at an inferior conference? Do you just discount his tenure as Texas? Skim over that part of his resume?

When he coached at uf his defenses were the same way in the best conference. Saying Charlie strong can't coach is just ridiculous. Charlie strong is just a bad fit at Texas just like golden was a bad fit at miami

Who the *** is talking about defense? Classic Broke taking the conversation to tangentville.

He is a bad fit when he has to coach the WHOLE team at a better conference than the Big Yeast.

 

[fivecent]

Not sure why all of the Strong hate. Didnt you see how he had those south florida boys boys playing in UL, that was Miami Football. And his OC was great with Teddy(not sure if still with him). I want Patterson or Butch or Herman but will take Strong Too.

Don't you see how that was 2 years ago at an inferior conference? Do you just discount his tenure as Texas? Skim over that part of his resume?

Texas personnel was bad when he got there and he got rid of some who were even worse. The dude is doing a full rebuild. It is not a plug and play situation like it would be here or like Michigan. He still doesn't have the personnel there but beat OK an KS, dude can coach. I MIGHT want Herman more but I like Strong resume over Herman. Plus he would kill it in recruiting down here. I don't think he his as good a coach as Patterson, but he is still **** good and I think a better coach than Butch.

 

[Consigliere]

Hey he has a strong following led by Mr. Money.

 

[dedostheibis]

He can come as defensive coordinator. Hes gonna fired by texas. Thats all he should be offered. Anybody saying other wise is lost period. The midget is not only getting sonned on the field but e cant recuit look at his class. Clintt hurt did a great job

 

[DiegoCane]

Charlie Strong is what we hate, a conservative "defensive" coach. Here are his offenses as a HC:

2010: 79th
2011: 103rd
2012: 51st (1st round QB Bridgewater)
2013: 28th (1st round QB)
2014: 113th
2015: 108th

I knew it was bad, I didn't know it was this bad.

Everyone talks about that talent he built, but he certainly didn't use it offensively. He's a corch and now that he can't out talent everyone by a ton, he is getting exposed.

I'm just going to keep reposting this in every Strong thread.

It's a joke how many excuses people make for this guy.

He had Bridgewater, a bunch of other talent and still ran his O at a snails pace. He can't win unless he has a large talent advantage.

 

[DMoney]

Strong is a bad fit at any good program, why? Because he is not capable of coaching against the big boys with better talent.

He was 8-1 against current Power 5 teams in his last two years at Louisville, he destroyed UF and Miami teams loaded with NFL players, and his defenses dominated the SEC for years. He can deal with top talent.

How is it an argument in support of a candidate to say he needs a "good OC"? What I think you're saying is Strong has no ***ing clue how to run an offense and he needs a chit ton of help?

Bad coordinator decisions can hold back any coach. Did you watch Miami in the mid-90s? If you did, you may remember our embarrassing struggles on defense with Butch's buddy Bill Miller. We didn't get right until Butch hired Schiano. Strong's handling of the OC position really hurt him at Texas. He should have OCs (including Dorsey) lining around the corner to coach Kaaya, so I believe he has a great chance to avoid that mistake here.

Another person, yourself, who also believes Strong needs his incompetence masked with an elite QB. Congrats! Welcome to our side.

You must've missed the part of my post where I said the "Bridgewater made Strong" theory is bull****. Louisville won because they had an elite defense, a ton of talent identified and developed by Strong, and a great QB. By the way- why did Bridgewater go to a middling program like Louisville? Charlie Strong.

And while we're at it, the theory that "Hurtt's bag money got Strong recruits" is so stupid that it needs to be addressed. Strong built an NFL factory the same way Butch did: with expert talent evaluations:

DeVante Parker- 3*
Calvin Pryor- 3*
Preston Brown- 3*
Marcus Smith- 3*
Lorenzo Maudlin- 3*
John Miller- 3*
Jamon Brown- 3*
Charles Gaines - 3*
Bryant Dubose- 3*

Fuente doesn't have the culture fit for you? Too Spanish? How do you know this?

People who know him say he wouldn't want the job and is a Big 12/SEC-type of guy. I hope that's wrong because Fuente is a stud coach, but we shall see.

I want an on the record prediction for Strong this year. How does your boy finish this season?

Probably ******. They have a ****** team. It's Rich Rodriguez all over again. Coaching is about coaching ability, timing and fit. Bill Belichick was 36-44 at Cleveland. Pete Carroll was considered a disaster hire at USC.

I look at the bigger picture. Strong proved at Florida, South Carolina and Louisville that he can produce elite defenses. It's absurd to think he forgot how to do it overnight. He is a proven talent evaluator on par with anyone in the country. He is entrenched in South Florida and knows how to use the talents of South Florida players. Many of the issues that plagued him at Texas (no QB, an establishment that was against him from the start) won't be a problem here.

Considering all of that, he is third on my list behind Butch and Herman and right above some of the rising defensive coordinators I like.

 

[Al Foil]

When I see Charlie Strong, I see the following:

2010 7-6
2011 7-6

2011 11-2

This is very deceiving too me. With Bridgewater at the helm, he did not beat a ranked team during the regular season. However, he did manage to lost to Syracuse and Uconn. He beat UF that year but we all know the Gators did not show up for that game.

2012 12-1

Was this the weakest 12-1 team in the history of college football. Did not played another ranked team all year. Lost the only big game of the year to UCF. Beat down Miami...great.

Strong is a fraud.

 

[DMoney]

Charlie Strong is what we hate, a conservative "defensive" coach. Here are his offenses as a HC:

2010: 79th
2011: 103rd
2012: 51st (1st round QB Bridgewater)
2013: 28th (1st round QB)
2014: 113th
2015: 108th

I knew it was bad, I didn't know it was this bad.

Everyone talks about that talent he built, but he certainly didn't use it offensively. He's a corch and now that he can't out talent everyone by a ton, he is getting exposed.

I'm just going to keep reposting this in every Strong thread.

Interesting position considering that your candidate is Mark Stoops. Here are his rankings in scoring offense:

2013- 113th
2014- 79th
2015- 95th

Care to explain?

 

[Al Foil]

Stoops is far worse than Strong.

These DC's that made a name for themselves on the backs of Urban Meyer and Jimbo Fisher are complete frauds.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

So in this thread we have finally figured out that both Charlie Scrong and Mark Poops are horrible corches.


Nice work gents.

 

[Al Foil]

When are people going to realize you have a much better shot with a former OC as HC?

Look at McIlwein, Herman, Fuente, etc.

Saban, Patterson and Dantonio are the exception.

Meyer, Harbaugh, Fisher, Kelly, Harbaugh, Briles, Miles, Swinney, Freeze, Shaw, Brian Kelly, Herman, Wittingham, etc.

They just make better head coaches....PERIOD!