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TemplarCane said:
I think Mario is/was a good OL coach and so is Mirabal. This year's OL has struggled with penalties but that can happen. No one questioned the OL last season.

I am curious when and why their reputations as being among the best were earned.

Declaimer: I am just a fan do talking about something I know nothing about.
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They are alright, the penalties is a big problem and most of it is coming from the OL. I think that is unacceptable if u have playoff hopes. As a HC Cristobal and Mirabal’s OLs have always had penalty problems. If Cristobal is to stay Mirabal can be replaced with just as good if not better quality.

The line was better last season, mainly due to Rivers and Carpenter being there.
 
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Hufftwoseven said:
Was the X’s and O’s this bad last year on offense?

Also what kind of defensive scheme allows a QB to throw for 360 yards when the opponent cant run the ball at all?
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Cam Ward and the skill players forced teams to play honest. Beck is a downgrade, and Miami has to replace Martinez, Arroyo, Horton, George, and of course X. Cam Ward himself covered deficiencies.

Its clear Miami is more limited than last season and yet to adapt to how defenses are playing them.
 
Ispyin said:
I get the point and I'm not here to defend him because what we have seen recently is not defensible but he is the CEO a coach in charge of a program problem is he's also putting himself in charge of the innovation department to use an example and thinks he still selling CDs. He's built the store it's strongg. He's got a really good HR department. He has a good security department I can't get out the way of innovating they will declare chapter 11-

He needs a couple of senior executives to call his bull**** and give a different point of you and if you can recognize that as a strength, not weakness, the turnaround can be complete. If not the board needs to recognize that their CEO has raised the floor and built a foundation that cant be allowed to crumble, but the ceiling is only 2 inches higher and they need to come on and build upon that foundation with somebody elseHe needs a couple of senior executives to call his bull**** and give a different point of you and if you can recognize that as a strength not a weakness the turnaround can be complete. If not the board needs to recognize that their CEO has raised the floor but the ceiling is only 2 inches higher and they need to come on and build upon that foundation with somebody el
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I’m a business owner and a CEO. Know lots of people that are as well.

He’s an employee type not a CEO. CEOs aren’t supposed to be texting recruits 24/7. He would work his *** off as a recruiter where he can take his long term approach and work ethic and shine.

He can’t make quick pivots. Takes him 6 months to hire coaches.

This idea that he’s building some sort of corporate infrastructure is lost on me when even his OL can’t line up right in year 4.
 
Cribby said:
than at any time in history, coaching and scheming are at a premium. Which leads me to the glaring weakness of this program right now: offensive X’s and O’s. Everyone today has talent, but it’s more spread thin because of NIL. So the issues we have can’t be fixed by simply out-recruiting the competition. The days of loading your roster up and out-manning teams are over — just like thinking you can line up and out-physical opponents all game, winning 20–17.

Teams like Indiana out-scheme their talent by consistently creating open receivers and easy touchdowns through smart play design and mismatches.

Somebody needs to get ahold of the head caveman and explain how offensive football works in 2025. There are times in a game that call for physicality and simply beating the man in front of you — but there are also plenty of plays that require creativity and outthinking the coach on the other sideline.

Which brings me to my final point: Mario is a CEO-type coach who brings value mainly through recruiting and teaching offensive line play. That makes his hires enormously important. The first rule of leadership is to hire people smarter than yourself — and then let them work. On the offensive side, it really feels like people who lack the intelligence or understanding needed to run a modern offense have far too much input in the game plan.

Even Nick Saban realized he had to evolve a decade ago when offenses kept advancing and becoming harder to defend. On top of that, the game today is slanted toward the offense — yet we continue to run 1980s smash-mouth football, the exact style any defensive coordinator in America would prefer to face.

Like Al Golden, one side of the ball could be Mario’s undoing — ironically, the same side the head coach has the most input on. I really hope Mario can recognize this and get it through his thick cranium. The greatest coaches are always adapting and evolving. Fired coaches die on the hill of their identity.
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The biggest problem being Mario can't step in and support either side of the ball.....so if he misses on a coordinator, or has one succeed and leave, he has to start over from scratch. This coaching staff is not built to slide one guy over if another leaves. It's a complete teardown and reboot each time.....and furthermore, the position coaches may not always be aligned with the concepts/scheme of the guy coming in, further complicating things. Mario burns through coaches at a high pace. I understand why now....and it's not just bc of how demanding he is on the recruiting trail.
 
twes.305 said:
They are alright, the penalties is a big problem and most of it is coming from the OL. I think that is unacceptable if u have playoff hopes. As a HC Cristobal and Mirabal’s OLs have always had penalty problems. If Cristobal is to stay Mirabal can be replaced with just as good if not better quality.

The line was better last season, mainly due to Rivers and Carpenter being there.
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Agree Rivers and especially Carpenter were better.

This year's team lacks explosive playmakers, except for Toney, or at least has not been able to get maximum usage out of what they have. Just consider Miami lost Ward, Martinez, X, Horton, George, and Arroyo.

The coaching response has been to double-down on what defenses are preparing for. Not the best formula.
 
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TemplarCane said:
Mario’s reputation as an offensive line guru, flanked by Mirabal, is overstated.

Other than Sewell from Oregon, how many offensive lineman were drafted or even undrafted free agents? Sewell was a high pick, but was also a five star recruit. Give Mario credit for that. All the other offensive lineman Mario put in the NFL during his time from his time in Oregon were day three picks or undrafted free agents. Quite a few of those players were signed a season or two before Mario left for Miami and finished their college career under Dan Lanning.

Alabama had good offensive lines with Mario Cristobal, but they also had good lines before and after. Mario only coach at Alabama for three years. How many players did he coach their entire collegiate career?

Nick Saban raves about Mario as a recruiter, but why did Mario leave Alabama? I believe he was replaced by Brent Keys and Alabama‘s machine just rolled on, no pun intended.

Why would Mario leave Alabama a year removed from a national championship season and in the middle of a multi-national championship run for a lateral position at the University of Oregon? You could say it worked out because Willie Taggart bailed after one year and Mario got the promotion to head coach, and here he is today as head coach for his dream job making $8 million a year. All of which seems more lucky than a plan.
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I mean it’s a little unfair to look at his NFL guys in Miami. Cici is about to be a day 1 pick and he was in his first class. Beyond that he’s had Rivers and Lee in the NFL. It’s too early to say what they’ll do in the NFL
 
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Cribby said:
than at any time in history, coaching and scheming are at a premium. Which leads me to the glaring weakness of this program right now: offensive X’s and O’s. Everyone today has talent, but it’s more spread thin because of NIL. So the issues we have can’t be fixed by simply out-recruiting the competition. The days of loading your roster up and out-manning teams are over — just like thinking you can line up and out-physical opponents all game, winning 20–17.

Teams like Indiana out-scheme their talent by consistently creating open receivers and easy touchdowns through smart play design and mismatches.

Somebody needs to get ahold of the head caveman and explain how offensive football works in 2025. There are times in a game that call for physicality and simply beating the man in front of you — but there are also plenty of plays that require creativity and outthinking the coach on the other sideline.

Which brings me to my final point: Mario is a CEO-type coach who brings value mainly through recruiting and teaching offensive line play. That makes his hires enormously important. The first rule of leadership is to hire people smarter than yourself — and then let them work. On the offensive side, it really feels like people who lack the intelligence or understanding needed to run a modern offense have far too much input in the game plan.

Even Nick Saban realized he had to evolve a decade ago when offenses kept advancing and becoming harder to defend. On top of that, the game today is slanted toward the offense — yet we continue to run 1980s smash-mouth football, the exact style any defensive coordinator in America would prefer to face.

Like Al Golden, one side of the ball could be Mario’s undoing — ironically, the same side the head coach has the most input on. I really hope Mario can recognize this and get it through his thick cranium. The greatest coaches are always adapting and evolving. Fired coaches die on the hill of their identity.
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Prayer to Jesus, allah and god
 
Outside of the penalties the line looked great. Beck had all day. The run game is just too predictable. I could stop it 😂. Everyone can see the run coming and everyone knows where it’s going.
 
U_Canes said:
I mean it’s a little unfair to look at his NFL guys in Miami. Cici is about to be a day 1 pick and he was in his first class. Beyond that he’s had Rivers and Lee in the NFL. It’s too early to say what they’ll do in the NFL
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Fair.

Cici is Sewell. A highly rated 5* player starting from Day 1. Credit given where due by signing him. Same with Cantwell next season, assuming the commitment holds up.
 
Cribby said:
than at any time in history, coaching and scheming are at a premium. Which leads me to the glaring weakness of this program right now: offensive X’s and O’s. Everyone today has talent, but it’s more spread thin because of NIL. So the issues we have can’t be fixed by simply out-recruiting the competition. The days of loading your roster up and out-manning teams are over — just like thinking you can line up and out-physical opponents all game, winning 20–17.

Teams like Indiana out-scheme their talent by consistently creating open receivers and easy touchdowns through smart play design and mismatches.

Somebody needs to get ahold of the head caveman and explain how offensive football works in 2025. There are times in a game that call for physicality and simply beating the man in front of you — but there are also plenty of plays that require creativity and outthinking the coach on the other sideline.

Which brings me to my final point: Mario is a CEO-type coach who brings value mainly through recruiting and teaching offensive line play. That makes his hires enormously important. The first rule of leadership is to hire people smarter than yourself — and then let them work. On the offensive side, it really feels like people who lack the intelligence or understanding needed to run a modern offense have far too much input in the game plan.

Even Nick Saban realized he had to evolve a decade ago when offenses kept advancing and becoming harder to defend. On top of that, the game today is slanted toward the offense — yet we continue to run 1980s smash-mouth football, the exact style any defensive coordinator in America would prefer to face.

Like Al Golden, one side of the ball could be Mario’s undoing — ironically, the same side the head coach has the most input on. I really hope Mario can recognize this and get it through his thick cranium. The greatest coaches are always adapting and evolving. Fired coaches die on the hill of their identity.
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This is spot on as usual, though a year ago everyone was delighted with the offense while the defense was trash. The only hope is Mario has shown a willingness to acknowledge issues or weaknesses & attempt to fix them. This one is staring him & his little buddy right in the face, so it might be his ultimate test.
 
TemplarCane said:
Cam Ward and the skill players forced teams to play honest. Beck is a downgrade, and Miami has to replace Martinez, Arroyo, Horton, George, and of course X. Cam Ward himself covered deficiencies.

Its clear Miami is more limited than last season and yet to adapt to how defenses are playing them.
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So it’s personnel, specifically at QB and not Mario or Dawson?
 
The U is back to work said:
I would love to see a real breakdown as to what Cignetti is doing there and why it looks so effortless. Mendoza is obviously a solid QB but come on lol they are pummeling people.
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Mendoza has really blossomed under Cignetti, but what would he look like had he come to Miami? Would our offense look any different? Likely a better version of Beck in the same system.
 
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bacane said:
Mendoza has really blossomed under Cignetti, but what would he look like had he come to Miami? Would our offense look any different? Likely a better version of Beck in the same system.
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Did you watch Miami football last year? You think Dawson had a different offensive system?
 
Hufftwoseven said:
So it’s personnel, specifically at QB and not Mario or Dawson?
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Both can be true.

Last season Miami had great QB play with excellent skill players. Cam would go off-script and make plays you don't coach. DCs had to play honest. Overload the box and Cam throws over their heads. Play straight up and the OL can overpower you with Fletcher and Martinez.

This season Miami has a solid QB (IMO) but is lacking skill other than Fletcher. Toney makes plays with his natural talent. Mario and Dawson's response is to double down on a run scheme DCs know how to defend, and worse, know what's coming.
 
Mario worked for saban, saw the GOAT adjust and evolve. Mario’s acting likes smarter trying do things his way despite his way not working. It’s maddening, in the day and age of space and getting speed into space we decide to run into the back of the ol. Saw Fletcher take one off tackle on the 3rd and he almost broke it, but we don’t run plays like that nearly enough.
 
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