Capping Coaches' Salaries–Donna Shalala

[1mg of Epi]

This is interesting because I believe in 2014 or 2015 the governor of Louisiana almost had to shut down the football program at LSU because of how much it cost to run the program. Clearly that didn't happen nor would almuni ever allow it, but the cost to the public for state schools to operate top tier football programs is way higher than people realize.

They shut down all academic programs before theyd touch football.

 

[aleahy]

I would like to see coaching salary caps and other measures to ensure competitive balance. College has become pro sports with no salary cap. We have 5 or 6 programs throwing insane money at their programs and it’s led to everyone basically knowing the playoff teams before the season even starts.

I know everybody wants their school to just continue throwing money into the program but most schools simply aren't going to do that and this separation will just got worse. It’s become bad for the sport.

 

[We the Boss]

The work around is simple. Boosters stop donating to the school and create a coaches fund. Government can’t fade American ingenuity.

 

[HurricaneU]

Could cap salaries and increase student-athlete stipends, or...just drop the charade of calling it amateur athletics, disband the NCAA, and let the market evolve.

 

[NE Canes]

This is interesting because I believe in 2014 or 2015 the governor of Louisiana almost had to shut down the football program at LSU because of how much it cost to run the program. Clearly that didn't happen nor would almuni ever allow it, but the cost to the public for state schools to operate top tier football programs is way higher than people realize.

No one was shutting down that program. No one was even slightly serious about shutting down that program.

 

[CanesFootball]

By no means am I an economist so interested in hearing thoughts on this. What effects would this have on college sports, and, in particular, college football? I think that if the argument is that college athletes' pay was limited to promote competition among universities, the same should have been done to college coaches. Now that's changed (at least I think so). I still think limiting the amount that public institutions are allowed to dedicate to college coaches would do a lot of good for a lot of people.

Proposed federal law seeks to limit skyrocketing salaries of college coaches

The recently introduced bill is just in its beginning stages in the U.S. House of Representatives

www.cbssports.com

Some quotes:
"An ant-trust exemption granted by the federal government would create some sort of restraint on college salaries that have reached record levels. It's an exemption that was granted to Major League Baseball in 1922 that states the sport is not subject to federal commerce laws."

"Shalala said that the SEC pursued Miami in expansion talks in the early 2000s while she was president of the university.
'We just could not compete with their [coaching] salaries,' Shalala said."

"'Everybody talks about an antitrust exemption," Clemson AD Dan Radakovich told CBS Sports. "Like everything in life, there's a good antitrust exemption and one that becomes overly regulated. … The physics lab ain't getting $93 million because [football income is] all self-generated.'"

Shalala was great as far as raising money overall for the Univ. of Miami

And she was terrible for the football program...

Both statements are true....and to this day we have left overs like Jennifer Strawley overseeing football operations who is clueless about the sport

 

[CanesNY26]

No one was shutting down that program. No one was even slightly serious about shutting down that program.

Believe me I know fans would have burned down the capital building at the idea of it, my understanding of it and what I was told by a senior staffer in the governors office was the state was in a major financial crisis at the time and didn't have the money to support the athletics department.

 

[NE Canes]

Believe me I know fans would have burned down the capital building at the idea of it, my understanding of it and what I was told by a senior staffer in the governors office was the state was in a major financial crisis at the time and didn't have the money to support the athletics department.

Its just politicians blowing hot air. That program makes so much money they could fund 3 football programs.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Believe me I know fans would have burned down the capital building at the idea of it, my understanding of it and what I was told by a senior staffer in the governors office was the state was in a major financial crisis at the time and didn't have the money to support the athletics department.

Taxpayer money isn't used to fund CFB programs. You know the kind of **** that would be raised if the State Of Florida was on the hook for Taggart's buyout...

 

[Dwinstitles]

You just wallow in misery 24/7.

My advice to you is to give up on the canes, and find another team to root for. I think you’ll be happier.

And you keep talking this clown shlt about slurpers. Who are the slurpers? Nobody’s slurping this program right now. Unless by slurpers you mean people that don’t find something negative to say 24 hours a day.

I guess part of me has hope.....I think the hope I have is possibly Diaz will be fired eventually. I don't think he has what it takes to bring us back and there is a ton of evidence backing that up. I just want that part of the process over as quick as possible. I'll be excited again with a new hire.

 

[CanesNY26]

Taxpayer money isn't used to fund CFB programs. You know the kind of **** that would be raised if the State Of Florida was on the hook for Taggart's buyout...

By in large public universities athletic budgets are subsidized by the gov't as any other program would be, this is why salaries from public universities are required to be disclosed to the public.

Regarding Taggart's buyout the FSU had to secure funding from donors in order to move it forward, this is also why they had to get additional funding from donors to hire more off the field staff when Norvell came in.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I guess part of me has hope.....I think the hope I have is possibly Diaz will be fired eventually. I don't think he has what it takes to bring us back and there is a ton of evidence backing that up. I just want that part of the process over as quick as possible. I'll be excited again with a new hire.

Yes I’d be excited with like say maybe Urban Meyer. But he’s not walking through that door anytime.

Manny can go jump off the pier, but at least we can be excited about having an electric quarterback this year. And who knows maybe we will score a lot of points this year and see some exciting football. Other than the Louisville game, when’s the last time a Miami offense got you excited? So look at the positive, we may have some exciting games this year, and then at the end Manny might be gone anyway.

You can always figure out something to look forward to.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Taxpayer money isn't used to fund CFB programs. You know the kind of **** that would be raised if the State Of Florida was on the hook for Taggart's buyout...

BUZZER SOUND.....WRONG!

Most NCAA Division I athletic departments take subsidies

All but 23 Division I athletic departments received subsidies.

usat.ly

”Florida also cites women's sports funding as a major reason for the nearly $4.4 million in subsidies its athletics program received in 2012, the second consecutive year — and the third time in six years — in which Gators sports programs generated over $11 million more than they spent.“

 

[Dwinstitles]

Yes I’d be excited with like say maybe Urban Meyer. But he’s not walking through that door anytime.

Manny can go jump off the pier, but at least we can be excited about having an electric quarterback this year. And who knows maybe we will score a lot of points this year and see some exciting football. Other than the Louisville game, when’s the last time a Miami offense got you excited? So look at the positive, we may have some exciting games this year, and then at the end Manny might be gone anyway.

You can always figure out something to look forward to.

I'm only excited to see king and lashlee I just think when a coach is this bad it will be hard to shine.

 

[Empirical Cane]

You just wallow in misery 24/7.

My advice to you is to give up on the canes, and find another team to root for. I think you’ll be happier.

And you keep talking this clown shlt about slurpers. Who are the slurpers? Nobody’s slurping this program right now. Unless by slurpers you mean people that don’t find something negative to say 24 hours a day.

There are slurpers...muppets...

and they lurk everywhere....

everywhere...

 

[Empirical Cane]

BUZZER SOUND.....WRONG!

Most NCAA Division I athletic departments take subsidies

All but 23 Division I athletic departments received subsidies.

usat.ly

”Florida also cites women's sports funding as a major reason for the nearly $4.4 million in subsidies its athletics program received in 2012, the second consecutive year — and the third time in six years — in which Gators sports programs generated over $11 million more than they spent.“

And this highlights the disgusting part: they play a shell game for Fed Mandated Programs (i.e. Title IX) and use $$$ for those while the rest of the AD carries on s business as usual...

 

[Empirical Cane]

Taxpayer money isn't used to fund CFB programs. You know the kind of **** that would be raised if the State Of Florida was on the hook for Taggart's buyout...

Complicated observation...

taxpayer funds are used for mandatory federal programs across the University (like Title IX, etc.) the AD benefits from this subsidy (as does every Department) so "their funds" can be used for locker rooms, coach salaries, etc.

At the end of the day, they re backdoor subsidized, but so is the Physics department as well.

 

[Brains]

Salary caps are for losers.

At the same time, I ******* hate that my tax dollars go toward paying anything at UiF or F$U.

 

[dukemv]

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Capping salaries is ridiculous. Classic Liberal, Socialist concept.

The focus needs to be on all the illegal recruiting activity and all programs having an equal number of coaches just as you do with 25/85.

NBA has players salary caps. President’s salary is “capped” at $400,000. Government is meant to intervene in market failures. That doesn’t equate to socialism, at least, as how I’m imagining you two thinking of it.

I’m not sure illegal activities can be addressed, as I’m assuming a lot of the actors are part of the Good Ol’ Boys Club

 

[GojiraCane]

Not that we didn’t already know it, but this is just the long version of Shalalalala coming out and publicly stating that she doesn’t like football and wishes it would go away. She did a pretty good job of that while she was in control of UM.

I don’t buy that. And the reason for that is she had ample opportunity to run the program down in 2006 after the FIU brawl, but stood firm against media pressure to kick out players like Merriweather. I’ll credit her for actually stating she wasn’t going to sacrifice student athletes just to appease national media. And in 2011, she could have easily shut down the program after the Shapiro scandal broke...and the national media would have lauded her for her courageous stand.

Her problem was not that she wanted Miami football to go away, but that she was not willing to spend money to keep pace with competition.