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Capping Coaches' Salaries–Donna Shalala

kryptonite said:
I agree in general that if you care about fairness and/or competition then spending has to be capped in some way. Pro sports have realized this, and college should do the same.

That said, there's just too much money for things to change much. Even if you cap salaries, schools will find ways to lure coaches. Cars, houses, or other things of value will find there way to a coach if you want him badly enough.

Having said that, I think we should at least try to stop the incessant ramping-up of spending in college football. There's very little excitement left when you know that out of 130 teams, only 5 or so have a real shot at a NC. Sure, somebody else will win one every now and then, but we all know the names of at least 3 of the top 4 next year and the season is 7 months away.
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Last I checked pro sports don’t have a cap on coaches.
 
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dukemv said:
By no means am I an economist so interested in hearing thoughts on this. What effects would this have on college sports, and, in particular, college football? I think that if the argument is that college athletes' pay was limited to promote competition among universities, the same should have been done to college coaches. Now that's changed (at least I think so). I still think limiting the amount that public institutions are allowed to dedicate to college coaches would do a lot of good for a lot of people.

www.cbssports.com

Proposed federal law seeks to limit skyrocketing salaries of college coaches

The recently introduced bill is just in its beginning stages in the U.S. House of Representatives
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

Some quotes:
"An ant-trust exemption granted by the federal government would create some sort of restraint on college salaries that have reached record levels. It's an exemption that was granted to Major League Baseball in 1922 that states the sport is not subject to federal commerce laws."

"Shalala said that the SEC pursued Miami in expansion talks in the early 2000s while she was president of the university.
'We just could not compete with their [coaching] salaries,' Shalala said."

"'Everybody talks about an antitrust exemption," Clemson AD Dan Radakovich told CBS Sports. "Like everything in life, there's a good antitrust exemption and one that becomes overly regulated. … The physics lab ain't getting $93 million because [football income is] all self-generated.'"
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This right here:

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The day will come when we reach a tipping point. When schools like Clemson, Georgia, and Alabama overspend on athletics-only facilities while at the same time radically increasing tuition and student activity fees to support it, and also let spending on non-athletic ventures such as student maintenance, classroom maintenance, and faculty salaries fall off.

This facility above with the lazy river wasn't even Clemson, but is UCF. You can just imagine how Texas or LSU will someday respond.
 
Your very mistaken if capping coaches salaries and support staff will change anything.kids will still go with\where the bags are.that's what needs to be stopped if you want parity in cfb.
 
3GC said:
Shalala sure Capped Miami coaching salaries while she was here..
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Yep. We take it for granted now that Miami spend considerably to bring in Lashlee. Shalala kept Randy's staff on a starvation diet in terms of spending. Randy got to spend at the level of a newly formed FBS-team making the jump to D1. And no nutrition program - players got their food from McDonalds. No athletic department enhancements. Just a bare-bones, budget program. In that, Randy Shannon was done a serious disservice.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
"Shalala said that the SEC pursued Miami in expansion talks in the early 2000s while she was president of the university."

Been telling you guys we should join the SEC. You fools kept saying the SEC wouldn't let us in. Well, now you know.

Miami should leave the ACC for the SEC.

And God ****.... Shalala was the worst.
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That doesn't say we were green lit for the SEC. Sounds like opening talks maybe though.

We aren't a fit for the SEC. They are all huge state schools aside from Vandy. They all have budgets and fanbases that dwarf ours. Joining the SEC would be the death of our football program.

Shallala was the worst, I'll give you that.
 
canesarchitect said:
Last I checked pro sports don’t have a cap on coaches.
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No, but coaching salaries haven't gotten out of control. They felt some team's ability to pay more and more to get the best players was detrimental to the product on the field so they came up with salary caps. If bidding wars start to drive coaching salaries too high, they'll do the same with coaches.

The difference is that the NFL felt like the fans would abandon them if the game weren't fair, whereas the NCAA knows that (at least so far) fans will stick with the sport out of love for their alma mater if nothing else. ****, look at us. Our team hasn't been relevant in over a decade and the playing field is tilted strongly in favor of other teams, but we're still here. We btchand moan, but we still watch because we love our team. Even if the system isn't fair we still watch.

God we're a bunch of fcking suckers.
 
The great Sam Jankovich said a few years ago that he was worried that Miami as a relatively small private school could not compete with the never ending arms race that was evolving on CFB, Unfortunately, he was most likely correct,
 
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HRIKN said:
Even if you cap salaries, schools will find ways to lure coaches. Cars, houses, or other things of value will find there way to a coach if you want him badly enough.

Saban's contract with Alabama is one that already shows how far a school will go to sign a coach. Besides his base salary, he gets the use of 2 cars, Country club membership, use of private jet for 25 hours, 6 million life insurance, 100k annually to his foundation, 15 skybox tickets, plus all kinds of performance bonuses.
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That seems pretty easy to get around. He has to declare all those gifts on his taxes. So you make the rule tied to whatever the coach declares on his taxes.
 
CTCANE said:
The great Sam Jankovich said a few years ago that he was worried that Miami as a relatively small private school could not compete with the never ending arms race that was evolving on CFB, Unfortunately, he was most likely correct,
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Could Miami not compete for the ACC coastal? How about we clear that bar for a couple years and then complain about not being able to break through if losing repeatedly in the ACC championship game.
 
Coaches salaries aren’t black and white, they are incredibly complex. The base salaries are generally mid six figures for coaches that the university pays. The rest is supplemental. The millions they earn come from the athletic budget, which comes from conference deals, tv deals, endorsements, etc.

They also have many forms of deferred compensation. I believe it’s Harbaugh who has a 2 million dollar life insurance policy that’s included in his deal. The retention bonuses and the deferred compensation plans, take away from the guaranteed money in their deals.

I read this a while back so I’m a little fuzzy on all the small details, but I promise it’s way more complex then most people think. There is no way to cap coaches earnings, there is just too much money coming from tv and apparel companies. Do they think Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour would let that happen? How about CBS, and Disney? Any form of trying would cause an uproar, the likes of which you’ve never seen.
 
If we started winning again like early 2000’s winning adidas would say heres a blank check, do whatever you want. Instead we chose purposely to not win.
 
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Typical lib trying to regulate outcomes. Let the free market work! If Alabama has the means and wants to pay Saban that salary - let 'em. What does the little commie troll care? What has shalala ever done in the private sector to say she has the knowledge base to make that call?
 
Not that we didn’t already know it, but this is just the long version of Shalalalala coming out and publicly stating that she doesn’t like football and wishes it would go away. She did a pretty good job of that while she was in control of UM.
 
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Palm Harbor Cane said:
Shalala is a lying she hobbit! Larry Coker was one of the highest paid coaches in college football in the early 2000’s! Shalala decided to take the money generated from football and spend it elsewhere.
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I'm not defending Shalala, but this is 100% incorrect.

There isn't even a legal mechanism that allows for to-fro transfers without loan stipulations.

And that has never happened at Miami.
 
Been saying this for years...

D1P5 needs to install an entire program spending cap and quickly.

Without it, there will be a small "super league" of teams and everyone else.
 
Dwinstitles said:
It just doesn't get better for us does it?
Guess the slurpers can rave about portal U all off-season.

This football program is in so much disarray...everything we read is negative
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You just wallow in misery 24/7.

My advice to you is to give up on the canes, and find another team to root for. I think you’ll be happier.

And you keep talking this clown shlt about slurpers. Who are the slurpers? Nobody’s slurping this program right now. Unless by slurpers you mean people that don’t find something negative to say 24 hours a day.
 
Capping salaries is ridiculous. Classic Liberal, Socialist concept.

The focus needs to be on all the illegal recruiting activity and all programs having an equal number of coaches just as you do with 25/85.
 
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