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Can't believe Georgia ******* Tech

The first 7 weeks was the perfect storm of incompetent coaching, getting burned by having to rely on so many young players, and a devastating injury that sent the offense completely off the rails.

At no point next season should the first two reasons listed burn us next year. Sucks that we had to sacrifice yet another season at Miami but it is what it is.
 
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For_The_U said:
... or not making a single stop on 4th and 17, or not missing a FG vs unc, or not gifting vt a 28-0 lead, or not missing an XP vs VT, etc. It sucks, but it is what it is. Let's finish the season on a 6 game win streak and send a message for 2020 in our bowl game. Thats all we can control now.
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That 4th and 17 is not as bad but it's like Penn State 1999.
 
nikkoum said:
I don't know. I think its fair to say that these kids were winners coming in. However all kids (generally) are winners if they are getting recruited to play D1 college ball.

Just something to chew on that I've been mulling over. I think its possible that way back in the coker era. Towards the end. A sort of disease grew into the program. Its possible that a group of guys came in and lived off of the success of the 01/02 guys. A disease that went on for years and claimed some good kids and a few coaches.

Nothing first hand but always heard stories from people and some ex players that there were some guys that just didn't put in the work or do things the coaches wanted. The 01 team did all of the extras. Its possible that the guys that rotated in afterwards did not. Some of you remember us complaining that one of the things that Coker did was star chase. He went all over bringing in guys that scored great but weren't nec. miami mentality. Could that have been the beginning of it? Also, consider that its not something any of us would see. Think highly touted recruits that came in and were generally productive but weren't committed to the whole team and doing the "Alabama/Clemson" type routine. Thus never getting themselves and the team to that next level. They would sort of quietly erode the program from within.

Football is unique in that so many people have to function so perfectly and so consistently for you to achieve success. Something like the above going on for so long could be one of the major reasons why we got to where we got. Other issues are to blame as well. However, I dont think this one gets its due discussion.

The issue I'm picking at is maybe this coaching staff is just going about the business of playing doctor before coach. I know we sit here and say just run these plays its so obvious. However, its possible that so much deconstruction and reconstruction has/had to go on that there is only so much time in day/week/month.

One of the hardest things to do in life is to cast off the teaching of those before you and venture out on your own. Be it your parents or friends. Not everyone in life is cut out to be a leader. If our team room has been filled with followers that have been led by a few bad guys that's something that can get passed down over and over. If your teammates aren't pushing you to go study and watch film and instead go hang out on the beach. Well I would imagine its hard for most coaches to come in and cure that over night.

It would then be inevitable that you would have GT type games that are hard to explain. What this staff does with those experiences behind closed doors is what determines the overall trajectory of the team. I guess the conversation im throwing out there is that this is akin to curing an addict. Guys have been complacent for a while. Living off the glory of teams past. Like all addicts you have to deal with the addiction and avoid the relapse. If it was easy to become a tier one team over night then everyone would be doing it.

Sorry for the ramble.
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To summarize, it’s called changing the culture. It not only happens in sports, it happens in organizations. Anywhere where you have people working together as a team.

I’ve been involved in a culture change in organization. I know firsthand how hard it is, and that it takes time. I don’t know if Manny is the guy to make that change. But at some point, somebody will have to. The culture along with coaching, has been rotten with the program since 03/04
 
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SWFLSWAGG17 said:
They ARE terrible. They seemed to catch us off gaurd by going back to their old playbook for the first time this season. Like we were their superbowl and they were waiting to ambush. Thanks to Dee and others not knowing game situations we gave them something to be proud about for their entire season.
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Obviously the coaches were saving the playbook for Miami
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
To summarize, it’s called changing the culture. It not only happens in sports, it happens in organizations. Anywhere where you have people working together as a team.

I’ve been involved in a culture change in organization. I know firsthand how hard it is, and that it takes time. I don’t know if Manny is the guy to make that change. But at some point, somebody will have to. The culture along with coaching, has been rotten with the program since 03/04
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Been changing the culture for 12 years now....
 
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Don canon said:
**** I always struggle with that. Man English is my second language I am sorry. Well in that case you’re a douche!!!!
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That may be true, but the biggest douche is @Tetragrammaton Cane. Loves following people around under a plethora of user names.


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Only positive I can take out of it is it seemed to have gelled the team and we’ve had our 3 best performances against solid teams since then...

Since were talking “ifs” would you trade the Gtech loss for 1-2 in the next three and continuing the up and down season?
 
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mdpcane said:
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Funny you mention the OB. Miami currently has a realistic shot at getting into the Orange Bowl this year with a favorable matchup while avoiding a 60 point loss to Clemson in the ACC championship game. If the end goal of the season is to look attractive to recruits (we weren't winning a championship this year anyways), avoiding a blowout loss to Clemson seems like the better option.
 
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ehicks said:
Only positive I can take out of it is it seemed to have gelled the team and we’ve had our 3 best performances against solid teams since then...

Since were talking “ifs” would you trade the Gtech loss for 1-2 in the next three and continuing the up and down season?
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I think you are over shooting the "solid teams" description there.
 
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