Can't believe Georgia ******* Tech

[Mel Bernstein]

Based on our performance over the last 3 weeks, I would say there is some truth to that.

Most of these kids have been winners their entire lives. I think Manny and his merry bunch of buffoons are the ones that had to learn to win.

 

[For_The_U]

Most of these kids have been winners their entire lives. I think Manny and his merry bunch of buffoons are the ones that had to learn to win.

Some truth to that as well.

 

[Empirical Cane]

To make sure I'm clear, you're advocating for Manny and the staff to all be fired right now?

If Miami's goals are to:

- Outright win ACCCCD Titles consistently
- Win ACC Titles consistently
- Be in mix and win Natty

Then yes, fire Blake and Diaz (taking staff with them)...TODAY. Bite the bullet and rebuild Rome over next 3-5 years.

If Miami's goals are to have late Coker/Shannon/Golden/Richt results year in and out, then keep Blake and Diaz.

 

[CFLCane]

I did. I was physically at the game in 1996. Those ECU teams had winning seasons. Corching for sure, but not even close to losing to this GT team.

Winning seasons in what division?

 

[KOOLAID4L]

Not the worse team we loss to. That was FAMU

 

[For_The_U]

If Miami's goals are to:

- Outright win ACCCCD Titles consistently
- Win ACC Titles consistently
- Be in mix and win Natty

Then yes, fire Blake and Diaz (taking staff with them)...TODAY. Bite the bullet and rebuild Rome over next 3-5 years.

If Miami's goals are to have late Coker/Shannon/Golden/Richt results year in and out, then keep Blake and Diaz.

Fair enough. I don't agree we should fire Manny right now myself, but I respect your opinion.

 

[Brains]

Winning seasons in what division?

ECU was an independent in 96 and CUSA in 99. If you want to pretend that this GT team was better than those ECU teams, fine. If you want to defend the loss to GT, go ahead and defend it.

 

[Tonydrpr]

Tbh I’d rather miss the acc this year. Let’s be honest, Clemson would best us easily. I’d rather be the in acc game when we can actually compete with them. Next year would be the year.

 

[Canestomp]

I got no more in the tank to cry about that loss.

 

[South Side Chi Cane]

Fine............. but guarantee that you will have 3 hot dogs with ketchup, and we will win going away...

You had better watch it, You might be eligible for the drum head trial thread that RVA has going on, with talk like that.

 

[nikkoum]

I don't know. I think its fair to say that these kids were winners coming in. However all kids (generally) are winners if they are getting recruited to play D1 college ball.

Just something to chew on that I've been mulling over. I think its possible that way back in the coker era. Towards the end. A sort of disease grew into the program. Its possible that a group of guys came in and lived off of the success of the 01/02 guys. A disease that went on for years and claimed some good kids and a few coaches.

Nothing first hand but always heard stories from people and some ex players that there were some guys that just didn't put in the work or do things the coaches wanted. The 01 team did all of the extras. Its possible that the guys that rotated in afterwards did not. Some of you remember us complaining that one of the things that Coker did was star chase. He went all over bringing in guys that scored great but weren't nec. miami mentality. Could that have been the beginning of it? Also, consider that its not something any of us would see. Think highly touted recruits that came in and were generally productive but weren't committed to the whole team and doing the "Alabama/Clemson" type routine. Thus never getting themselves and the team to that next level. They would sort of quietly erode the program from within.

Football is unique in that so many people have to function so perfectly and so consistently for you to achieve success. Something like the above going on for so long could be one of the major reasons why we got to where we got. Other issues are to blame as well. However, I dont think this one gets its due discussion.

The issue I'm picking at is maybe this coaching staff is just going about the business of playing doctor before coach. I know we sit here and say just run these plays its so obvious. However, its possible that so much deconstruction and reconstruction has/had to go on that there is only so much time in day/week/month.

One of the hardest things to do in life is to cast off the teaching of those before you and venture out on your own. Be it your parents or friends. Not everyone in life is cut out to be a leader. If our team room has been filled with followers that have been led by a few bad guys that's something that can get passed down over and over. If your teammates aren't pushing you to go study and watch film and instead go hang out on the beach. Well I would imagine its hard for most coaches to come in and cure that over night.

It would then be inevitable that you would have GT type games that are hard to explain. What this staff does with those experiences behind closed doors is what determines the overall trajectory of the team. I guess the conversation im throwing out there is that this is akin to curing an addict. Guys have been complacent for a while. Living off the glory of teams past. Like all addicts you have to deal with the addiction and avoid the relapse. If it was easy to become a tier one team over night then everyone would be doing it.

Sorry for the ramble.

 

[gabednconfused]

Na, Miami gonna keep Miami out the ACC championship

 

[Bipolarcane]

Most of these kids have been winners their entire lives. I think Manny and his merry bunch of buffoons are the ones that had to learn to win.

I don’t usually agree with you cause your a douche. But this is a very good point.

 

[Jonnyblaze]

... or not making a single stop on 4th and 17, or not missing a FG vs unc, or not gifting vt a 28-0 lead, or not missing an XP vs VT, etc. It sucks, but it is what it is. Let's finish the season on a 6 game win streak and send a message for 2020 in our bowl game. Thats all we can control now.

Este

 

[Fightinibis]

Is gonna keep Miami out of the ACC ship game....

That was arguably the most humiliating game of the season, it should work that way.

Lose to a team that shouldn't be on the field with you because you play like you could care less, be prepared for the consequences.

 

[L A M P]

We better hammer those goobers by 50 next year.

 

[Fightinibis]

Na, Miami gonna keep Miami out the ACC championship

Like so many years in the last 15-16 years, that is the bullseye.

Players, coaching, heart (or lack thereof), etc.....we beat Miami better than anybody else.

UM

 

[MIA42178]

It’s better for our program long term to have **** our pants against UNC and GT

We’ve tinkered w defense and offense since then. Seem to be headed more in right direction now.

Kudos to the fan outrage following UNC and GT games specifically.

 

[dukebeeasy305]

4th and 17 vs UNC
3 missed FG’s at GT
Just one of those plays and we’re in the ACC title game

Then there’s the UF game that had about 8 game game changing plays and if one of them goes differently we win.

This season has been brutal.

Diaz did say we were just a couple of plays away from being undefeated

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

If Miami's goals are to:

- Outright win ACCCCD Titles consistently
- Win ACC Titles consistently
- Be in mix and win Natty

Then yes, fire Blake and Diaz (taking staff with them)...TODAY. Bite the bullet and rebuild Rome over next 3-5 years.

If Miami's goals are to have late Coker/Shannon/Golden/Richt results year in and out, then keep Blake and Diaz.

Have you injured your head or something? 3 to 5 years? That’s probably one of the dumbest things ever posted. Who do you suggest we get to rebuild us in as long as 5 years? Nobody is ever going to get five years at Miami. Nobody.