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Summary: Cristobal vs. Lanning — Penalties and Discipline



Mario Cristobal (Oregon 2018–2021, Miami 2022–present)





  • Cristobal’s teams have a long pattern of ranking among the most penalized in the country.
  • At Oregon, his offenses were consistently flagged 6–8 times per game, often putting the Ducks in the bottom third nationally in penalties.
  • In 2021 (his final year in Eugene), Oregon committed over 100 penalties in 14 games, one of the highest totals in the Pac-12.
  • After moving to Miami, the same trend followed: the 2022 and 2023 Hurricanes each averaged 7–8 penalties per game, ranking near the bottom of the ACC and around 100th nationally.
  • Analysts often cite Cristobal’s physical, aggressive style and lack of sideline discipline as contributing factors.



Dan Lanning (Oregon 2022–present)


  • Under Lanning, Oregon immediately cleaned up its game.
  • The Ducks averaged about 6.8 penalties/game in 2022, 6.6 in 2023, and just 5.3 in 2024, the lowest under any recent coach.
  • In 2024, they had the fewest penalty yards (580) and second-fewest total penalties (74) among Big Ten postseason teams—making them one of the most disciplined Power Five programs.
  • Lanning’s staff emphasizes controlled aggression and accountability, and it clearly shows in the rankings.


Bottom Line



Cristobal’s teams—both at Oregon and Miami—consistently rank among the nation’s most-penalized.


Lanning’s Oregon teams, by contrast, rank among the least-penalized and most disciplined.





So when someone claims that refs “have it out for Miami,” the numbers tell a simpler story:


Cristobal’s teams always rack up flags, no matter where he coaches. It’s a coaching pattern, not a conspiracy.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
Per chatgpt


Summary: Cristobal vs. Lanning — Penalties and Discipline



Mario Cristobal (Oregon 2018–2021, Miami 2022–present)





  • Cristobal’s teams have a long pattern of ranking among the most penalized in the country.
  • At Oregon, his offenses were consistently flagged 6–8 times per game, often putting the Ducks in the bottom third nationally in penalties.
  • In 2021 (his final year in Eugene), Oregon committed over 100 penalties in 14 games, one of the highest totals in the Pac-12.
  • After moving to Miami, the same trend followed: the 2022 and 2023 Hurricanes each averaged 7–8 penalties per game, ranking near the bottom of the ACC and around 100th nationally.
  • Analysts often cite Cristobal’s physical, aggressive style and lack of sideline discipline as contributing factors.



Dan Lanning (Oregon 2022–present)


  • Under Lanning, Oregon immediately cleaned up its game.
  • The Ducks averaged about 6.8 penalties/game in 2022, 6.6 in 2023, and just 5.3 in 2024, the lowest under any recent coach.
  • In 2024, they had the fewest penalty yards (580) and second-fewest total penalties (74) among Big Ten postseason teams—making them one of the most disciplined Power Five programs.
  • Lanning’s staff emphasizes controlled aggression and accountability, and it clearly shows in the rankings.


Bottom Line



Cristobal’s teams—both at Oregon and Miami—consistently rank among the nation’s most-penalized.


Lanning’s Oregon teams, by contrast, rank among the least-penalized and most disciplined.





So when someone claims that refs “have it out for Miami,” the numbers tell a simpler story:


Cristobal’s teams always rack up flags, no matter where he coaches. It’s a coaching pattern, not a conspiracy.
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What about lack of flags on the opposing team? Was it like that for the teams Oregon played? Doubtful. That is what the real issue is with the officiating. It's been this way for years, well before Mario got here. They call far less penalties on teams when they are playing us.
 
Mikeiavelli said:
What about lack of flags on the opposing team? Was it like that for the teams Oregon played? Doubtful. That is what the real issue is with the officiating. It's been this way for years, well before Mario got here. They call far less penalties on teams when they are playing us.
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I don't understand your response. What is your theory for explaining why the Ducks were far more penalized under Cristobal than they are under Lanning? All referees remember Cristobal used to play for the Hurricanes four decades ago and so they penalized his Ducks teams because of that Miami connection?
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I don't understand your response. What is your theory for explaining why the Ducks were far more penalized under Cristobal than they are under Lanning? All referees remember Cristobal used to play for the Hurricanes four decades ago and so they penalized his Ducks teams because of that Miami connection?
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No...they know Mario and especially UM don't play the game man.
You gotta at least kinda understand how $$ corrupts ...and there is more money now than ever before.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
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Summary: Cristobal vs. Lanning — Penalties and Discipline



Mario Cristobal (Oregon 2018–2021, Miami 2022–present)





  • Cristobal’s teams have a long pattern of ranking among the most penalized in the country.
  • At Oregon, his offenses were consistently flagged 6–8 times per game, often putting the Ducks in the bottom third nationally in penalties.
  • In 2021 (his final year in Eugene), Oregon committed over 100 penalties in 14 games, one of the highest totals in the Pac-12.
  • After moving to Miami, the same trend followed: the 2022 and 2023 Hurricanes each averaged 7–8 penalties per game, ranking near the bottom of the ACC and around 100th nationally.
  • Analysts often cite Cristobal’s physical, aggressive style and lack of sideline discipline as contributing factors.



Dan Lanning (Oregon 2022–present)


  • Under Lanning, Oregon immediately cleaned up its game.
  • The Ducks averaged about 6.8 penalties/game in 2022, 6.6 in 2023, and just 5.3 in 2024, the lowest under any recent coach.
  • In 2024, they had the fewest penalty yards (580) and second-fewest total penalties (74) among Big Ten postseason teams—making them one of the most disciplined Power Five programs.
  • Lanning’s staff emphasizes controlled aggression and accountability, and it clearly shows in the rankings.


Bottom Line



Cristobal’s teams—both at Oregon and Miami—consistently rank among the nation’s most-penalized.


Lanning’s Oregon teams, by contrast, rank among the least-penalized and most disciplined.





So when someone claims that refs “have it out for Miami,” the numbers tell a simpler story:


Cristobal’s teams always rack up flags, no matter where he coaches. It’s a coaching pattern, not a conspiracy.
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It’s not just a Cristobal thing. It’s a Miami thing. It does not make a difference who the head coach is…sheesh…Mark Richt proved it. There is a clear and obvious bias against Miami when it comes to officiating and it’s not debatable.

I’m not absolving Mr. Meat Head from his performance, but biased, anti-Miami officiating predates the Caveman’s tenure.

With that said, I agree with those that say he should eviscerate the ACC and the officials at his next press conference. He makes plenty of money to absorb the fine. But, he ain’t gonna do ****.
 
bdcane4eva said:
No...they know Mario and especially UM don't play the game man.
You gotta at least kinda understand how $$ corrupts ...and there is more money now than ever before.
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I don't doubt there is some bias because Miami will never shake it's "bad boy" reputation from the 80s. But the fact is we make it really easy for refs to blow the whistle with our constant false starts and offsides. Maybe 1-2 a game is understandable from players getting antsy or fooled by the opponent's movements. But when it happens multiple times every game? Refs see the OL false start again and again and they start thinking, "This team is incredibly undisciplined and poorly coached" -an observation anyone who watches football would make. So then they start seeing penalties everywhere and the team loses whatever small benefit of the doubt it may have had.

I would join the chorus of complainers if Miami was only flagged on subjective penalties like holds or PI. We can't really control those. Refs wills ***** us there. But we can control false starts and almost always can control unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Thats coaching.
 
RozayCane said:
Listen, we’re trash with a trash HC.. yes. But what the **** is the real issue with us and the ACC refs? They make bad calls through out the league.. but something else is going on when it comes to UM games.

This is easily one of the worse no calls I’ve ever seen. You even have the game announcers wondering what seems like weekly wtf is going on too.

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If you've been a Miami fan long enough, you understand that Refs are ALWAYS against us. Most of the footage of penalties, that college football refs are trained on, are of the Miami Hurricanes....
 
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Handsome Squidbum said:
I don't understand your response. What is your theory for explaining why the Ducks were far more penalized under Cristobal than they are under Lanning? All referees remember Cristobal used to play for the Hurricanes four decades ago and so they penalized his Ducks teams because of that Miami connection?
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You're not getting that my beef is with the lack of penalties called on opposing teams when they play us compared to when they don't play us.

Refs should call penalties on us when we commit them and they do and they also call plenty of borderline ones against us too. But they don't call the other team the same way and the stats back that up.

They call far less penalties on teams when those teams play us.
 
htownkidd said:
Lol at people tagging the ACC account on twitter and asking for an explanation. That’s ******* hilarious
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If they can come out and say Duke should’ve won after the Elder return, they can **** sure come out and say Trader got tackled and it should have been 1st and goal in OT and not SMU ball. There would be zero push back. It’s clear as day on camera.

They even have the SEC just a few weeks ago as an example of doing it.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I don't understand your response. What is your theory for explaining why the Ducks were far more penalized under Cristobal than they are under Lanning? All referees remember Cristobal used to play for the Hurricanes four decades ago and so they penalized his Ducks teams because of that Miami connection?
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Don't trust Chat GPT, it's usually full of **** and just making stuff up.
 
Look, I get we are all mad at Cristobal and, yes, his teams have consistently been among the most penalized teams in the country, but the data (not the typical fan assumption that everyone's out to ***** us) shows that somehow even highly penalized teams have their cleanest games against us.... consistently. Coincidence maybe? Perhaps it's just a statistical anomaly.

The thing that ****es me off the most is that Mario knows this. Heck, he played against this...and despite that, he STILL corches in a manner that allows the obvious bias to cost us games.
 
Gables Cane said:
It’s not just a Cristobal thing. It’s a Miami thing. It does not make a difference who the head coach is…sheesh…Mark Richt proved it. There is a clear and obvious bias against Miami when it comes to officiating and it’s not debatable.

I’m not absolving Mr. Meat Head from his performance, but biased, anti-Miami officiating predates the Caveman’s tenure.

With that said, I agree with those that say he should eviscerate the ACC and the officials at his next press conference. He makes plenty of money to absorb the fine. But, he ain’t gonna do ****.
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100%. No one hated stupid penalties more than Richt, but still...
 
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Handsome Squidbum said:
Per chatgpt


Summary: Cristobal vs. Lanning — Penalties and Discipline



Mario Cristobal (Oregon 2018–2021, Miami 2022–present)





  • Cristobal’s teams have a long pattern of ranking among the most penalized in the country.
  • At Oregon, his offenses were consistently flagged 6–8 times per game, often putting the Ducks in the bottom third nationally in penalties.
  • In 2021 (his final year in Eugene), Oregon committed over 100 penalties in 14 games, one of the highest totals in the Pac-12.
  • After moving to Miami, the same trend followed: the 2022 and 2023 Hurricanes each averaged 7–8 penalties per game, ranking near the bottom of the ACC and around 100th nationally.
  • Analysts often cite Cristobal’s physical, aggressive style and lack of sideline discipline as contributing factors.



Dan Lanning (Oregon 2022–present)


  • Under Lanning, Oregon immediately cleaned up its game.
  • The Ducks averaged about 6.8 penalties/game in 2022, 6.6 in 2023, and just 5.3 in 2024, the lowest under any recent coach.
  • In 2024, they had the fewest penalty yards (580) and second-fewest total penalties (74) among Big Ten postseason teams—making them one of the most disciplined Power Five programs.
  • Lanning’s staff emphasizes controlled aggression and accountability, and it clearly shows in the rankings.


Bottom Line



Cristobal’s teams—both at Oregon and Miami—consistently rank among the nation’s most-penalized.


Lanning’s Oregon teams, by contrast, rank among the least-penalized and most disciplined.





So when someone claims that refs “have it out for Miami,” the numbers tell a simpler story:


Cristobal’s teams always rack up flags, no matter where he coaches. It’s a coaching pattern, not a conspiracy.
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“Oregon committed over 100 penalties in 14 games”

That’s over 1,400 penalties that season!! Insane
 
This notion that the penalties are a Mario thing is steered by clear bias or doesn’t know Miami’s history and officiating….. These crimes have been happening since Jimmy’s tenure….. And may I say it happened in baseball as well under the Ron Fraiser tenure trust me I was there.
 
CIS_troll_killa said:
This notion that the penalties are a Mario thing is steered by clear bias or doesn’t know Miami’s history and officiating….. These crimes have been happening since Jimmy’s tenure….. And may I say it happened in baseball as well under the Ron Fraiser tenure trust me I was there.
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100%. Butch, Golden and Richt did try to curb the penalties....still happened.
 
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