Can we talk about what’s ACC/Refs beef with Miami

[Mr. Dynasty1]

agree but we would have been flagged due to our "reputation". I'd argue this to the death.

Exactly. I didn’t say anything about the play he made. We are 100% getting flagged for standing there that long

 

[Fatboycane]

Been this way for a while now, and while we have larger issues, think back to when the normally mild mannered Mark Richt lost it on a ref in the Orange Bowl game.

 

[88]

Refs don't even try to hide the **** anymore, many games are impacted with calls affecting outcomes, that's what happens when you legalize betting in sports.

And the refs have day jobs to go back to if they’re caught

 

[RozayCane]

 

[PennsylvaniaCane]

My issues with the refs are Bain and Mesidor are held virtually every play and very few calls . Plus how do our opponents get like maybe 3-5 calls against and that’s it

Our players don’t sell it. It’s a game IQ thing. Yesterday I saw a OL 2 hand shove C Smith around a pile up. Smith just points to the official who moves in between and gives the OL a talking to. Compare that to the Mauigoa shove against LVille where the player went flying like he was shot out of a cannon. Francis is strong but not that strong.

Point being until Bain and the others start selling it they’re not gonna get the call. You have to make it look obvious.

 

[Ryanmilli]

That’s not just blatant, but also intentional. DB fell down and just pulled the WR down to avoid giving up the TD.

 

[PennsylvaniaCane]

We cant ***** when theyre aggressive and then ***** when they go conservativel. We absolutely did what we needed to do, which is push the ball down field and score, not try and milk the clock while they have time outs.

My gripe, is on 2nd and 2 (or was it 2nd and 3?) SMU went into what looked like a cover 0. The play call was a screen that absolutely gets housed if we make 1 guy miss, and if he gets tackled for a loss, it puts us at 3rd and 5 so its not that huge of a risk...The issue was that they were in press coverage, which means THAT was the time to audible into a deep route and take a shot, cuz its still 3rd and 2 if you dont connect. You dont throw a screen into press coverage.

Didn’t Beck say he runs the play that is called

 

[TheSaltyCutting]

That’s some bull****.

 

[drewm3i]

My issues with the refs are Bain and Mesidor are held virtually every play and very few calls . Plus how do our opponents get like maybe 3-5 calls against and that’s it

And then they call Mauigoa on holds for pancakes lol

 

[RozayCane]

 

[LPK2006]

They call the slightest movements on our OL while every other team has a guy routinely jumping a split second early and that NEVER gets called

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Been done in other threads already. We get screwed the data is not even close.

I must have missed it. Can you direct me to the thread?

 

[terdferguson]

I must have missed it. Can you direct me to the thread?

The data is posted in this thread. Page 3, first post.

 

[jwcane97]

And the refs have day jobs to go back to if they’re caught

And this is the problem.
Refs should be like the NFL. No conference refs, it is all NCAA. They are paid $150-180k a year. Their JOB is being a referee. They take classes in the off season, they go to campuses and officiate spring games, etc.

Now you hold them accountable. After every game the NCAA grades refs. Anyone below an 85% rating (or whatever you want to set) is fined. Second offense is a suspension and third is dismissal.

 

[Mikeiavelli]

That’s not just blatant, but also intentional. DB fell down and just pulled the WR down to avoid giving up the TD.

And judging by Becks head that was the first read

 

[Canesfan1899]

We’ve been getting screwed consistently for a long time, with that said, never leave the games outcome in the hands of the officials.

We shouldn’t have been in that position to begin with.

 

[CaneFan79]

Been down this road before...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...side-the-accs-new-game-day-operations-center/

https://www.researchgate.net/public...cs_Bias_in_Major_College_Football_Officiating

Riveron is giving a "legitimizing face" to what has been a long identified problem in the ACC.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

I
View attachment 341647


This was before yesterday. Miamis opponents 25 penalties. Next closest is 37. Avg is 52 so less than 50% for miamis opponents compared to other games. But those teams wreak havoc definitively compared to our passive approach. Those teams generate calls.

The data is posted in this thread. Page 3, first post.

Appreciate this. It's that third column that interests me. Penalties called against, in and of itself, could be explained away by pointing out we are an undisciplined football team under Mario. Mario's teams at Oregon also suffered from tons of penalties, so there's plenty of support for that theory.

But it's much harder to explain away the infrequency of calls against our opponenets relative to their average. Like, SMU average 6 penalties against per game. They had 4 penalties for 40 yards against us. That seems to be a common them. If teams get fewer calls against playing us compared to those teams' own average, that seems like stronger evidence of bias against us.

 

[coffeecane]

They lost the last bit of credibility they had when the said the guy on the sidelines catch at the end had control and that losing control before going out of bounds didn't matter. They lied to the nation and made it be true. The guy on the booth was so impressed they ****ed up right in front of the viewers he just went right along with it.

 

[joeB954]

Also…. For such a tough guy, Mario really just lets everything go on the sideline. No fire. Every other coach constantly working the officials. Only saw a little bit of fire from Mario on the ML 4th down penalty.

He just looks scared most of the time.