Dwinstitles
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I have never seen a QB this good ever at the U, I'll be the guy that says it. No one we have ever had has this type of skill set.I’d say most Canes fans here have never seen us have a QB this good
I hope having Cam here helps guys like @DMoney re-calibrate what top notch QB play should look like in greentree at the supossed QBU.. I still remember the Rosier camp reports after his 1 year bridge season..I’d say most Canes fans here have never seen us have a QB this good
I was never a huge Rosier hyper, although he had a good 2018 camp.I hope having Cam here helps guys like @DMoney re-calibrate what top notch QB play should look like in greentree at the supossed QBU.. I still remember the Rosier camp reports after his 1 year bridge season..
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I could be misremembering. I just was disappointed with them trying to stretch Rosier bridge year into more than it should have been, with no plan then hoping to start a freshman Nkosi who didnt enroll early.. Its all a blur of 7n5 seasons his 2018 camp probably looked good because there were no other talented arms near greentree..I was never a huge Rosier hyper, although he had a good 2018 camp.
Morris and Kaaya is a different story. We’ve had way too much QB regression here.
Money we are normally in sink with each other, but...We have had a couple Heisman winners/National Champs here. They had a different skill set, but Ward has some things to accomplish before he reaches that level.I have never seen a QB this good ever at the U, I'll be the guy that says it. No one we have ever had has this type of skill set.
Morris, Rosier, and Kaaya were all really lightly recruited guys as well so it’s relative. Kaaya was a 4 star but IIRC Boise St was our main comp for him at the end. Rosier was a baseball player and Morris was a 3 star project type take.I was never a huge Rosier hyper, although he had a good 2018 camp.
Morris and Kaaya is a different story. We’ve had way too much QB regression here.
I just don’t care what stats and awards say. This kid is that **** good I’m talking about tools. Quick release (Rodgers type release) awareness 100, arm lethal, accuracy on dot level, throws dudes open, can scramble but looking to make a play with his arm. Dude throws dots period.Money we are normally in sink with each other, but...We have had a couple Heisman winners/National Champs here. They had a different skill set, but Ward has some things to accomplish before he reaches that level.
I would love nothing more than Cam to lift both trophies!!!
I posted this in another Ward thread, but it bears repeating.
Take 17 minutes out of your day and watch this. To me, this is the FULL Cam Ward experience, wrapped up into one game/a 17 minute highlight of every throw and run he had.
His numbers for this game were 28/34 for 404 passing yards, 4 TDs with 0 INTs, and he also ran for 14 yards and a touchdown.
As you watch this, you're going to say who TF is Josh Kelly, because he was sensational in this game as well (he transferred to Texas Tech, by the way), but just look at the command of Ward. Nothing is hurried, nothing is stressed, and to me, it's the ball placement.
People will point to his low YPA as a ding on him, but look at the offense Arbuckle runs. It's a ton of short passes. But on those, **** near every single ball is PERFECTLY in stride to allow kids to RAC. And on the balls he does throw downfield, they are pinpoint accurate. It's an absolte clinic on how to throw the football.
Additionally, the way he navigates the pocket is brilliant. He changes speeds, he eludes both directions, he doesn't run to run, he runs to throw, his eyes are always downfield. He just looks so comfortable on every snap.
Now, for some of the negatives that make up what I feel is the full experience. One play, he tries to step through pressure, doesn't secure the ball, and fumbles. Another play, he runs to the sideline, tries way too hard to make a play, puts the ball in harms way across the middle and gets absolutely lit up in the process. Just a couple plays here and there where he can be a little more caerful with the ball and with his body. But this, IMO, is a perfect glimpse of what we're getting. A supremely talented player with a ton of poise, accuracy, patience, and understanding of the game. With the occasional side of WTF are we doing here, son? If he can limit those, good god is this going to be fun to watch.
BTW, this game he put up a 221.0 QB rating, and a QBR of 93.2
The best game by a QB I can remember in a LONG time here was by D'Eriq King in 2020 against NC State, where he threw for 430 yards with 5 TDs and ran for another 105.
His QB rating in that game was 204.0 and he had a QBR of 93.0.
So yeah, Cam had a pretty good day against Oregon State. Anybody know who the opposing QB was that day? Buddy had a front row seat.
Abilities are one thing but results are everythingI just don’t care what stats and awards say. This kid is that **** good I’m talking about tools. Quick release (Rodgers type release) awareness 100, arm lethal, accuracy on dot level, throws dudes open, can scramble but looking to make a play with his arm. Dude throws dots period.
You about to see video game **** this year. Be prepared to enjoy something never seen before hereAbilities are one thing but results are everything
Jim Kelly, Dorsey, and Erickson weren't so shabby eitherVinny Bernie and Gino were pretty good.
From your lips to God's earsYou about to see video game **** this year. Be prepared to enjoy something never seen before here
Great news if it plays out, but a helluva high bar.I have never seen a QB this good ever at the U, I'll be the guy that says it. No one we have ever had has this type of skill set.