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Gino doesn't belong in the same Zip code as Bernie & Vinny....Vinny Bernie and Gino were pretty good.
Gino doesn't belong in the same Zip code as Bernie & Vinny....Vinny Bernie and Gino were pretty good.
I posted this in another Ward thread, but it bears repeating.
Take 17 minutes out of your day and watch this. To me, this is the FULL Cam Ward experience, wrapped up into one game/a 17 minute highlight of every throw and run he had.
His numbers for this game were 28/34 for 404 passing yards, 4 TDs with 0 INTs, and he also ran for 14 yards and a touchdown.
As you watch this, you're going to say who TF is Josh Kelly, because he was sensational in this game as well (he transferred to Texas Tech, by the way), but just look at the command of Ward. Nothing is hurried, nothing is stressed, and to me, it's the ball placement.
People will point to his low YPA as a ding on him, but look at the offense Arbuckle runs. It's a ton of short passes. But on those, **** near every single ball is PERFECTLY in stride to allow kids to RAC. And on the balls he does throw downfield, they are pinpoint accurate. It's an absolte clinic on how to throw the football.
Additionally, the way he navigates the pocket is brilliant. He changes speeds, he eludes both directions, he doesn't run to run, he runs to throw, his eyes are always downfield. He just looks so comfortable on every snap.
Now, for some of the negatives that make up what I feel is the full experience. One play, he tries to step through pressure, doesn't secure the ball, and fumbles. Another play, he runs to the sideline, tries way too hard to make a play, puts the ball in harms way across the middle and gets absolutely lit up in the process. Just a couple plays here and there where he can be a little more caerful with the ball and with his body. But this, IMO, is a perfect glimpse of what we're getting. A supremely talented player with a ton of poise, accuracy, patience, and understanding of the game. With the occasional side of WTF are we doing here, son? If he can limit those, good god is this going to be fun to watch.
BTW, this game he put up a 221.0 QB rating, and a QBR of 93.2
The best game by a QB I can remember in a LONG time here was by D'Eriq King in 2020 against NC State, where he threw for 430 yards with 5 TDs and ran for another 105.
His QB rating in that game was 204.0 and he had a QBR of 93.0.
So yeah, Cam had a pretty good day against Oregon State. Anybody know who the opposing QB was that day? Buddy had a front row seat.
I seen enough to know this a different type of qb. I wanted this dude a month before the season was over. PauseGreat news if it plays out, but a helluva high bar.
Gino is the only one with both a national title and heisman. Hard to say he isn't even in the same zip codeGino doesn't belong in the same Zip code as Bernie & Vinny....
He had absolutely no business winning that Heisman.. Should have been 3rd at best.Gino is the only one with both a national title and heisman. Hard to say he isn't even in the same zip code
fax they were what they wereMorris, Rosier, and Kaaya were all really lightly recruited guys as well so it’s relative. Kaaya was a 4 star but IIRC Boise St was our main comp for him at the end. Rosier was a baseball player and Morris was a 3 star project type take.
We haven’t really landed many elite prospects at QB after the Kyle Wright Kirby Freeman days
Morris, Rosier, and Kaaya were all really lightly recruited guys as well so it’s relative. Kaaya was a 4 star but IIRC Boise St was our main comp for him at the end. Rosier was a baseball player and Morris was a 3 star project type take.
We haven’t really landed many elite prospects at QB after the Kyle Wright Kirby Freeman days
He had absolutely no business winning that Heisman.. Should have been 3rd at best.
*Faulk
*Hearst
*Gino....
That NC was due mainly to our #1 Defense. (The best statistically in UM History)
No ****... and Cam Ward was even more lightly recruited than any of those guys, before landing at University of Incarnate Word in 2020, before transferring to Washington State, where the Cougars went 5-7 last year.
Kid is an alpha dog and should have a great season at Miami, but the Canes still haven't had that 5-Star, can't-miss type of quarterback on the roster since Kyle Wright.... who absolutely flopped as a result of two different head coaches (Coker, Shannon) and 4.5 different offensive coordinators (Chud, Werner, Olson/Berry and Nix).
Kaaya was a 3-Star when Miami landed him; the Canes pursuing him (which put UCLA and USC on to him) ended up bumping him up to a 4-Star.
All fine and Dandy, bottomline is, Faulk and Hearst were more deserving.Marshall Faulk sat out the Miami game injured in 1992 out at San Diego State.
Televised game where the running back could've boosted his stock had he run against the Canes' vaunted defense, opposed to the garbage Mountain West squads he padded stats against with the Aztecs.
Miami 63, SDSU 17
Torretta was 19 of 35 for 310 yards and a touchdown and left the game after the third quarter. Faulk watched from the bench.
Miami was #1 and 12-0 going into bowl season when Torretta won the Heisman; San Diego State finished 5-5-1 and played scrubs. Outside of Miami the also lost to #11 UCLA earlier in the year, 35-7.
Faulk is obviously the better football player, but the way the Heisman was always won back in the day—the senior quarterback of the #1 team in the country was always going to get the hardware over the sophomore phenom running back at the smaller school; the mindset (for better or worse) that he'd have two more shots to ball out and win the hardware as an upperclassman.
Dorsey would've been that guy in 2002 if McGahee didn't siphon his votes... which is why another senior quarterback of a solid team (Carson Palmer) took it home that season, instead.... just like Eric Crouch in 2001, Chris Weinke in 2000, etc.
I mean, not even Ken Dorsey was as dynamic. You’d have to go back to TesteverdeI’d say most Canes fans here have never seen us have a QB this good
The services missed... and Cam Ward was even more lightly recruited than any of those guys, before landing at University of Incarnate Word in 2020, before transferring to Washington State, where the Cougars went 5-7 last year.
Kid is an alpha dog and should have a great season at Miami, but the Canes still haven't had that 5-Star, can't-miss type of quarterback on the roster since Kyle Wright.... who absolutely flopped as a result of two different head coaches (Coker, Shannon) and 4.5 different offensive coordinators (Chud, Werner, Olson/Berry and Nix).
Kaaya was a 3-Star when Miami landed him; the Canes pursuing him (which put UCLA and USC on to him) ended up bumping him up to a 4-Star.
Kaaya would have won 10 games with the team we had last year, especially with this oc. He was a really good qb out of shotgun setsI was never a huge Rosier hyper, although he had a good 2018 camp.
Morris and Kaaya is a different story. We’ve had way too much QB regression here.
Won a heismanGino doesn't belong in the same Zip code as Bernie & Vinny....
And Walsh too. Those were great years.Jim Kelly, Dorsey, and Erickson weren't so shabby either
what's crazier is that he's winning the Heisman this seasonI remember back when someone first posted on Cam Ward on this board back in 2021.
Crazy that we would end up with this kid.
Thank God for the Portal & NIL.