Buyouts Let's get to it

[Hurricane4lyfe]

paul finebaum is discussing this topic saying how Jimbo left fswho in a mess etc. what type of things need to be done with addressing extending bad coaches or coaches contracts??

 

[Lokest]

Competent AD

 

[Cookie917]

paul finebaum is discussing this topic saying how Jimbo left fswho in a mess etc. what type of things need to be done with addressing extending bad coaches or coaches contracts??

Question: "What type of things need to be done with addressing extending bad coaches or coaches contracts"

Responses: Don't do it. Have better Evals. Don't overextend your pocketbook. More incentive based contracts. However, is FSWHO is dumb enough to pay Taggert 19 mil, go for it, he fleeced them, good for him, benefit of the bargain.

Side note: F@ck finebaum

 

[Firesite]

Taggert isn’t going to get fired this year IMO. If he has another bad year next year he will get shxt canned.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I'm the last Cuckbo defender but FSU left itself in a mess. They obviously thought Cuckbo was replaceable and that their mighty program could sustain itself so this is what you get when you exacerbate arrogance with a lazy/bad hire. We know the drill.

 

[Cuban-Cane]

Jimbo might have left a mess off the field, but he left them a stacked roster. A roster that should not have only won 5 games in the ACC. Taeggart cant coach but he is too expensive to fire.

 

[mackjones]

Competent AD

Exactly. It was the AD who hired Tell Them Willie Boi is Here. My sincere bad to Robert Redford for borrowing the title of one his previous movies... Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here. hUh

 

[atlantadan]

just hire better coaches

 

[DTP]

Coaches tend to hold a majority of the leverage in these scenarios. That's why you keep seeing schools overextend themselves to pay for a new hire.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Pretty easy process:

1) Dont throw a ton of guaranteed money at someone who got fired. They got fired for a reason.
2) Don't throw a ton of guaranteed money at someone who hasn't proven it at this level.
3) Don't throw a long high value extension at one season sample size when you bring someone in.

Every coach should expect to wait until they are winning with their own players to both be fired, or extended. That is the contract situation that needs to be established to protect the athletic departments. You risk a coach being poached, but im sure FSU would have preferred to risk a poach than be in this position.

Contracts need to be incentive laden and have built in outs as well. Enough of both to be worth while to both parties.

 

[Twhizman]

Hope they give slick Willie an extension like we did golden.he's the best coach they've ever had as far I'm concerned.haha

 

[Bunker Mentality]

Pretty easy process:

1) Dont throw a ton of guaranteed money at someone who got fired. They got fired for a reason.
2) Don't throw a ton of guaranteed money at someone who hasn't proven it at this level.
3) Don't throw a long high value extension at one season sample size when you bring someone in.

Every coach should expect to wait until they are winning with their own players to both be fired, or extended. That is the contract situation that needs to be established to protect the athletic departments. You risk a coach being poached, but im sure FSU would have preferred to risk a poach than be in this position.

Contracts need to be incentive laden and have built in outs as well. Enough of both to be worth while to both parties.

How does all of that impact recruiting...?

 

[westcoastcanes]

How does all of that impact recruiting...?

Field production>

I don't think willie is going to get kids there because of his buyout, more likely competing recruiting staffs will use his record against him.

Big time programs are getting rid of bad coaches no matter how far they are extended anyway. Pretty over blown value to recruiting to extend someone. No kid or family should be falling for that.

 

[Bunker Mentality]

Field production>

I don't think willie is going to get kids there because of his buyout, more likely competing recruiting staffs will use his record against him.

Big time programs are getting rid of bad coaches no matter how far they are extended anyway. Pretty over blown value to recruiting to extend someone. No kid or family should be falling for that.

I'm speaking more to the suggested incentive-laden contracts that might raise questions about coaching stability.

 

[troyskiles]

Don't hire ****tards.

 

[paksat]

fsu has no one to blame but themselves, someone as green as willie had no business at a top tier program.

going after peterson from washington, or gundy from ok state... someone like that should have been the priority

fact is their search was more lazy than ours.

 

[MainLineCane]

paul finebaum is discussing this topic saying how Jimbo left fswho in a mess etc. what type of things need to be done with addressing extending bad coaches or coaches contracts??

Sounds like an FSU problem.....so frankly I don't give a F

 

[Go Canes!!]

Pretty easy process:

1) Dont throw a ton of guaranteed money at someone who got fired. They got fired for a reason.
2) Don't throw a ton of guaranteed money at someone who hasn't proven it at this level.
3) Don't throw a long high value extension at one season sample size when you bring someone in.

Every coach should expect to wait until they are winning with their own players to both be fired, or extended. That is the contract situation that needs to be established to protect the athletic departments. You risk a coach being poached, but im sure FSU would have preferred to risk a poach than be in this position.

Contracts need to be incentive laden and have built in outs as well. Enough of both to be worth while to both parties.

That’s a great plan but easier said than done. Willie for example was sitting pretty at Oregon.

Coach favored contracts are a risk every school has to take to take in today’s game.

 

[TheMatador]

Hope they give slick Willie an extension like we did golden.he's the best coach they've ever had as far I'm concerned.haha

#WillieForLife

 

[Captain Uberpants]

Don’t give a coach who hasn’t proven anything that much money.