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Bruce Feldman - The College Football Playoff rankings reveal has become a clown show by any metric

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htownkidd said:



Anyone have the goods?
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Of the five coaches we spoke to, each was asked who they thought should be the higher-ranked team. The breakdown:

• Notre Dame: The receivers coach and running backs coach

• Miami: The head coach

• Both: The offensive coordinator

• Hedged: The defensive coordinator

The DC said he thought Notre Dame’s physicality was better but Miami was more skilled. Asked who he thought was the better team, he laughed and then went back to the outcome of Week 1: “When it’s all said and done, Notre Dame lost that game. College football’s crazy, man.”

The article reads and is constructed that Notre Dame is better, IMO. But the guys gushing over Notre Dame were position coaches. Head coach they interviewed said really good things.
 
hurricaneman said:
Of the five coaches we spoke to, each was asked who they thought should be the higher-ranked team. The breakdown:

• Notre Dame: The receivers coach and running backs coach

• Miami: The head coach

• Both: The offensive coordinator

• Hedged: The defensive coordinator

The DC said he thought Notre Dame’s physicality was better but Miami was more skilled. Asked who he thought was the better team, he laughed and then went back to the outcome of Week 1: “When it’s all said and done, Notre Dame lost that game. College football’s crazy, man.”

The article reads and is constructed that Notre Dame is better, IMO. But the guys gushing over Notre Dame were position coaches. Head coach they interviewed said really good things.
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disagree. While the one coach was clearly all about ND, I thought the overall tone of the article was positive for Miami.

Final note: it's a coin toss

I was trying to figure out which team said what. Have to go back and read again more carefully. My head is telling me Stanford was the one who gushed over ND. He said similar things in his presser....

NC State
Pitt
Syracuse
Stanford
 
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Well ND lost to a team that lost to two unranked teams. There’s your spin.
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Ha - I don’t respond to them.

But also, transitive property and all that. Plus, that’s not what bothers me about it.

@LeanMeanOrangeGreen explained it very well in a response…

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caneingville said:
I swear, if I hear “lost to two unranked teams” one more time…

It’s the laziest bull**** ever, and reeks of ignorance. It’s just the retort of a bunch of bobble heads with zero critical thinking skills.
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And how true is it? SMU was ranked in the preseason. Dropped out, came back in. We lost to them at the time they were unranked. Cool. Doesn’t really matter. No one anywhere seriously thinks SMU is this God awful program. They were a CFP team last year. We lost in OT on the road. Got ****ed royally by officials but I won’t go there.

Louisville. They were 4-1 coming into the game...
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This was a good read and kind of highlights a couple of things some have mentioned in other threads:

1. Notre Dame is a dominant team. They are a legitimate shot to win it all if they get in. They are well coached and disciplined and have the talent to enhance those attributes. Don't shoot the messenger. I've always tried to call it how I see it.

2. Miami is just a bad a match up for them (and a lot of other teams in the play offs). We beat them 9 out of ten times with the current rosters.

3. Heatherman was the best offseason hire in College Football.
 
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Update: About an hour after this story was posted, we heard back from another coach on one of the staffs who faced both teams. This one, an offensive analyst, read this piece and was a bit surprised by some of the other coaches’ comments.

“Fascinating so many people thought Notre Dame was better,” he said Friday morning. “We thought playing Miami was a four-hour dental procedure, but we’d be willing to go against the Irish again.”

The coach who has spent around a decade in the ACC said he could only speak on the defenses of both teams.

“Miami was more talented and more physical,” he said. “Their line is one of the best I’ve ever seen (I thought on par with 2016 Clemson). Losing (nickel Keionte Scott) hurt them. They blitz a lot more than Notre Dame, and so if you could catch it right, you could crease them some (we did not).

“Notre Dame was very stagnant and didn’t try to create as many negative plays. We weren’t built right to beat them (you need a more physical back than we had), but you absolutely can run the ball on them because they’re so consistent in alignment. They’re better at linebacker than Miami, but blocking them on third down was a lot easier. Moore is elite at what they do, almost like a college Richard Sherman. Didn’t feel like Miami had as good of DBs. Both teams’ field corners were average at best, and Miami losing Scott means their nickel is on par with ND’s. But a motivated Miami team can beat anyone in America. I’m not sure you could say the same about ND if you have multiple 215-220-pound RBs.”
 
The discussion on RBs was interesting. Two different coaches (both of whom favored us) talked about our backs. One said that Pringle changed our offense because he was scary, and our other backs didn’t scare him the same way. The next guy said our ability to use big backs against Notre Dame was a separator.

Shows why you need both types of backs for different defenses and opponents.
 
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I strongly suspect the HC is Narduzzi. My guess is the WR coach is on staff at Syracuse or Stanford (probably Cuse).

The offensive analyst (the sixth respondent) is a lot harder to place, given that teams have so many of those. But he gave some really good insight. My guess is that he's on staff at NC State, because they played ND pretty tight until the end. It was a 3-point game until the end of the third quarter. Conversely, Miami absolutely suffocated NC State's offense. It was utter brutality, and probably felt miserable for the Wolfpack coaches and players.
 
I know it’s all about $$$$ but this Miami team has the talent and resume to be in the playoff. We all know that. With that said if they should deny the fans the pleasure of watching this team in the playoff I wish Miami tells them to stick the bowl game and refuse to accept any bid other than the playoff. The system is so unjust and renegade it’s time to stand up and fight it. **** the networks and all the corruption that goes with it.
 
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I strongly suspect the HC is Narduzzi. My guess is the WR coach is on staff at Syracuse or Stanford (probably Cuse).

The offensive analyst (the sixth respondent) is a lot harder to place, given that teams have so many of those. But he gave some really good insight. My guess is that he's on staff at NC State, because they played ND pretty tight until the end. It was a 3-point game until the end of the third quarter. Conversely, Miami absolutely suffocated NC State's offense. It was utter brutality, and probably felt miserable for the Wolfpack coaches and players.
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Well, we know it’s not Fran Brown. I doubt Reich commented about it on his way out. I’ve never heard Doeren talk before but the way we manhandled them I wouldn’t be shocked if he’d rave about us.
 
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