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False. Patients with a primary diagnosis of COVID are down by close to 1,000 week over week. Miami-Dade is down significantly.



D$, did the virus hit you hard? My best friend has had no symptoms (his wife got sick but not too bad) but my little brother has had a ****** 2 weeks.
 
And this is why you're one of the few people who can engage in these kinds of conversation.

The point is, we can't stand around and point at a 10-million person country with one single 1-million person city, that doesn't have anywhere near the commerce, travel, or governmental structures that the US has, and then say "yeah, that's EXACTLY what we should do".

Plus it is my understanding that Sweden has still not attained the statistical level of "herd immunity" yet. Oh, but "data"...and "details"...

There may be some lessons to learn from Sweden. However, since this is a "UM sports" board, and that most of the conversation revolves around sports, I still think that the sports differentials between Sweden and the US are still pretty significant.

We also could have accomplished a great deal had we pushed for widespread frequent and rapid testing, and mask-wearing, in January when many of us (maybe not a majority of us) called for it. More than 1 country did try that approach, and that approach mostly worked too.

And don't get me wrong, lots of countries half-assed that approach, and that has mostly NOT worked.

It's just sad, that you have a bunch of reasonably bright adults who go onto a sports board (professing to be big fans of data), and the minute that one player puts his health concerns first, many of them are quick to call that kid every name in the book...these same people talk about how these kids should make sacrifices and be loyal and brave...

And then many (not all, but many) of those very same people are unwilling to tolerate a simple daily sacrifice of wearing a mask, instead pivoting the discussion to "tyranny" and "constitutionality" and "sheep" and every other distracting talking point...

So, yes, the outcome is sad...but predictable.

We can debate whether testing and masks, if pursued whole-heartedly since January, would have "solved the problem" at a 100% level...but if we had made the effort and the sacrifice since January, I can guarantee you that we would be playing college football this month.

But "Sweden"...
This is another one of those things that aren't completely accurate that are being reported. We all heard 60-80% for herd immunity. That's the model based on the original assumed R0 (4) of this virus which assumed one positive person would give it 4 others. The Rt is down to 0.91 in FL now. That drops herd immunity significantly. It's estimated that ~20% of the population has already had it.

We'll continue to see cases until this virus evolves into just another common cold virus.

 
I can only speak for myself, but I have absolutely zero issues sending my kids back to school. Having been in active discussions with MANY of the parents of my children's classmates....that sentiment is pretty much universal from everyone I've spoken to personally.

I'm going to say it again. We are living in THE dumbest moment in United States history.
 
An interesting SI article calling fear of myocarditis "the final straw." I'm certain most if not all medical professionals have discussed it with their schools and conferences. The liability from potential heart conditions could bankrupt some athletic departments IMO. This ends the season.

Did you get to the part that said playing football could still be done with proper utilization of resources, or did you faint by then?
 
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I can only speak for myself, but I have absolutely zero issues sending my kids back to school. Having been in active discussions with MANY of the parents of my children's classmates....that sentiment is pretty much universal from everyone I've spoken to personally.

I'm going to say it again. We are living in THE dumbest moment in United States history.
guess it depends where you live. in miami positive rates at 10%. i would have no problem if rates were say 5-7%.
 
I live in Atlanta so I can admit that our Governor's response to the virus was pathetic and that he is a rube. Amazing that people in Florida can't see the **** show that is fathead DeSantis' virus response.
CIS is full of right wing nut jobs. That's why they're all rallying to DeSantis's side. You'll never get an honest discussion with anyone on either far end of the political spectrum.
 
D$, did the virus hit you hard? My best friend has had no symptoms (his wife got sick but not too bad) but my little brother has had a ****** 2 weeks.

Not really. The logistics of dealing with the kids (my wife is high risk) were much worse.

Mild fever for me, felt 100% (aside from temporary loss of taste) in about 3 days.

Hope your brother feels better.
 
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I can only speak for myself, but I have absolutely zero issues sending my kids back to school. Having been in active discussions with MANY of the parents of my children's classmates....that sentiment is pretty much universal from everyone I've spoken to personally.

I'm going to say it again. We are living in THE dumbest moment in United States history.
I live (for now) in a fairly small town in Georgia called Jefferson. We made CNN and the NYT because our schools went back to face to face on July 31st.

******** from those media outlets were camped out in front of the school...probably hoping that some of our kids die so they can have their bull**** story.
 
I live (for now) in a fairly small town in Georgia called Jefferson. We made CNN and the NYT because our schools went back to face to face on July 31st.

******** from those media outlets were camped out in front of the school...probably hoping that some of our kids die so they can have their bull**** story.
Like the lemmings that blindly follow their nonsense...
 
the only positive if the season gets cancelled is it will remind everyone how much their lives have turned to sh$t under trump.
Would only remind me how fvcked up the political and ruling class is that they would do anything possible from letting cities burn, the economy tank, to cancelling our most cherished traditions (like college football) to unseat this guy so he doesn't get another term. They've pretty much have thrown everything at him. He's still Teflon Don.
 
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