Benedict Cristobal is gone

[CaneInsideHer]

What a pile of **** that rag is. Al hired Fredo knowing he'd be looking for another job in a month? Yeah sure. And then to assume its a good move because he wants to be a HC and won't be one at UM but I'm sure they're going to hire him at Alabama. LULZ. Didn't Fredo get his last HCing gig as a result of working at UM? None of it makes sense.

None of it adds up, I think they are just making **** up

Al basically hired an overqualified dude with full knowledge that he was overqualified and would be moving on at the first (better) opportunity. If Mario splits, it is what it is. Happens all the time when you hired overqualified people. It's a chance you take when you make the choice to hire that person.

I was laid off from my job a couple years back. After I got let go, I took the first job that I was offered next, even though it was a position that was beneath me. My new boss knew it, and I knew it. I worked there for a couple months, then got a better job at a more prestigious company for more money. Guess that makes me a Fredo.

This argument works for people in the real world living pay check to pay check. In Mario's case it isn't like he needed to take a job to feed his family, he was gonna get paid by FIU regardless. He took the job initially because (as he expressed) he wanted to be a part of the rebuilding effort of his alma mater. Mario leaving at this point DOES say a ton about his character regardless of how you want to spin it with your ridiculous parallel world analogies. If he though the job was beneath him, he shouldn't have taken it.

I wasn't living paycheck to paycheck when I took that job. Fact is, working beats not working. You make more connections, you make more money, you expand your network more when you're working, and you're more attractive to employers if you actually have a job rather than if you don't. Kinda like how girls often like guys who already have gfs or wives rather than single guys.

Sorry that you prefer to live in imaginary-land rather than in the real world. I'm obviously not gonna change your mind--or anyone else's mind--about how you feel about Mario. But he's doing exactly what any smart businessman/employee does.

This.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Awww...I disagree with you, so I'm a loser or a troll. What are you, 12 years old? Grow the eff up.

The O Coord we just sent to the NFL had already been in the NFL before, and Richardson had 15 years total experience coaching RBs and went to the league to coach RBs. Both spent at least 2 seasons at the U before moving on. And for both, the UM gig was the best chance they had for advancement; no one from Bama or Oregon or LSU etc was beating down their doors.

Neither of those is analogous to Mario's situation. Dude's trying to put himself in the best spot possible to get a HG gig ASAP...next year, if possible. And Bama offers better pay and higher visibility on a national scale. If he's offered the gig and takes it, more power to him.

GTFOH with your sad ***** routine. Be a man and recognize that men do what's best for their careers.

At the very least Mario was lying in his presser on what his intentions were on why he took the UM job in the first place. So now if I don't agree with you that him taking the Bama job is "best for his career" then I'm not a man. OK....LULZ.

If you can't realize how scummy that is then that's your issue. Like I said before, I hope he does leave.......for good, don't let the door hit you in the ***.

Thing is I'm not sure Saban will be to eager to hire him, knowing he'll likely be gone in less than a year as well (even though Saban is cut from the same ****).

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

 

[CaneDaddy]

If anything, I learned one thing from this thread.... we will argue about anything.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Awww...I disagree with you, so I'm a loser or a troll. What are you, 12 years old? Grow the eff up.

The O Coord we just sent to the NFL had already been in the NFL before, and Richardson had 15 years total experience coaching RBs and went to the league to coach RBs. Both spent at least 2 seasons at the U before moving on. And for both, the UM gig was the best chance they had for advancement; no one from Bama or Oregon or LSU etc was beating down their doors.

Neither of those is analogous to Mario's situation. Dude's trying to put himself in the best spot possible to get a HG gig ASAP...next year, if possible. And Bama offers better pay and higher visibility on a national scale. If he's offered the gig and takes it, more power to him.

GTFOH with your sad ***** routine. Be a man and recognize that men do what's best for their careers.

At the very least Mario was lying in his presser on what his intentions were on why he took the UM job in the first place. So now if I don't agree with you that him taking the Bama job is "best for his career" then I'm not a man. OK....LULZ.

If you can't realize how scummy that is then that's your issue. Like I said before, I hope he does leave.......for good, don't let the door hit you in the ***.

Thing is I'm not sure Saban will be to eager to hire him, knowing he'll likely be gone in less than a year as well (even though Saban is cut from the same ****).

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

 

[-Blazed-]

I still want to hear what a associate HC does since Mario is clearly downgrading going from associate HC to O-line coach.

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

If anything, I learned one thing from this thread.... we will argue about anything.

Sir, that is why Al Gore invented the internet.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Awww...I disagree with you, so I'm a loser or a troll. What are you, 12 years old? Grow the eff up.

The O Coord we just sent to the NFL had already been in the NFL before, and Richardson had 15 years total experience coaching RBs and went to the league to coach RBs. Both spent at least 2 seasons at the U before moving on. And for both, the UM gig was the best chance they had for advancement; no one from Bama or Oregon or LSU etc was beating down their doors.

Neither of those is analogous to Mario's situation. Dude's trying to put himself in the best spot possible to get a HG gig ASAP...next year, if possible. And Bama offers better pay and higher visibility on a national scale. If he's offered the gig and takes it, more power to him.

GTFOH with your sad ***** routine. Be a man and recognize that men do what's best for their careers.

At the very least Mario was lying in his presser on what his intentions were on why he took the UM job in the first place. So now if I don't agree with you that him taking the Bama job is "best for his career" then I'm not a man. OK....LULZ.

If you can't realize how scummy that is then that's your issue. Like I said before, I hope he does leave.......for good, don't let the door hit you in the ***.

Thing is I'm not sure Saban will be to eager to hire him, knowing he'll likely be gone in less than a year as well (even though Saban is cut from the same ****).

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

 

[sotacane22]

ya why dont they make a thread for trash talking and **** and just leave the info alone so we can read some real ****

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

At the very least Mario was lying in his presser on what his intentions were on why he took the UM job in the first place. So now if I don't agree with you that him taking the Bama job is "best for his career" then I'm not a man. OK....LULZ.

If you can't realize how scummy that is then that's your issue. Like I said before, I hope he does leave.......for good, don't let the door hit you in the ***.

Thing is I'm not sure Saban will be to eager to hire him, knowing he'll likely be gone in less than a year as well (even though Saban is cut from the same ****).

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

What a load.

It doesn't matter what Stoutland made; he had no HC experience. And you have no idea what Mario is making at UM--we have nothing more than rumors to go on. And you also have no idea whether Bama would offer him a position title analogous to what he has at UM (Associate HC) or whether it would be strictly an OL coach position and title. And you also have no idea whether the USCe coach turned the job down, or whether (as is often the case) Bama turned him down and allowed him the courtesy of pulling his name out of contention.

What we do know is that Cristobal has reportedly said that money is an issue--which means that Bama would apparently offer him more.

So please, don't lecture me about what is known and what is imagined.

Cristobal's situation is unique in that he has HC experience; he's not some lifer assistant. His stated goal is obviously to get back to an HC gig. Working for a national title contender for more money will likely allow him that chance better than working at UM for less money. End of story.

 

[BigCaneAl]

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

What a load.

It doesn't matter what Stoutland made; he had no HC experience. And you have no idea what Mario is making at UM--we have nothing more than rumors to go on. And you also have no idea whether Bama would offer him a position title analogous to what he has at UM (Associate HC) or whether it would be strictly an OL coach position and title. And you also have no idea whether the USCe coach turned the job down, or whether (as is often the case) Bama turned him down and allowed him the courtesy of pulling his name out of contention.

What we do know is that Cristobal has reportedly said that money is an issue--which means that Bama would apparently offer him more.

So please, don't lecture me about what is known and what is imagined.

Cristobal's situation is unique in that he has HC experience; he's not some lifer assistant. His stated goal is obviously to get back to an HC gig. Working for a national title contender for more money will likely allow him that chance better than working at UM for less money. End of story.

Lol, you're hopeless....love the massive leaps followed by end of story. You're an idiot. Moving on.

 

[MedleyCane]

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

What a load.

It doesn't matter what Stoutland made; he had no HC experience. And you have no idea what Mario is making at UM--we have nothing more than rumors to go on. And you also have no idea whether Bama would offer him a position title analogous to what he has at UM (Associate HC) or whether it would be strictly an OL coach position and title. And you also have no idea whether the USCe coach turned the job down, or whether (as is often the case) Bama turned him down and allowed him the courtesy of pulling his name out of contention.

What we do know is that Cristobal has reportedly said that money is an issue--which means that Bama would apparently offer him more.

So please, don't lecture me about what is known and what is imagined.

Cristobal's situation is unique in that he has HC experience; he's not some lifer assistant. His stated goal is obviously to get back to an HC gig. Working for a national title contender for more money will likely allow him that chance better than working at UM for less money. End of story.

Really?
Please provide proof to support your assertion that working at Alabama provides better opportunity at becoming a HC.
Examples please.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

What a load.

It doesn't matter what Stoutland made; he had no HC experience. And you have no idea what Mario is making at UM--we have nothing more than rumors to go on. And you also have no idea whether Bama would offer him a position title analogous to what he has at UM (Associate HC) or whether it would be strictly an OL coach position and title. And you also have no idea whether the USCe coach turned the job down, or whether (as is often the case) Bama turned him down and allowed him the courtesy of pulling his name out of contention.

What we do know is that Cristobal has reportedly said that money is an issue--which means that Bama would apparently offer him more.

So please, don't lecture me about what is known and what is imagined.

Cristobal's situation is unique in that he has HC experience; he's not some lifer assistant. His stated goal is obviously to get back to an HC gig. Working for a national title contender for more money will likely allow him that chance better than working at UM for less money. End of story.

Lol, you're hopeless....love the massive leaps followed by end of story. You're an idiot. Moving on.

Yeah, like you're not making massive leaps to crucify the guy. Whatever, dumbass.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

What a load.

It doesn't matter what Stoutland made; he had no HC experience. And you have no idea what Mario is making at UM--we have nothing more than rumors to go on. And you also have no idea whether Bama would offer him a position title analogous to what he has at UM (Associate HC) or whether it would be strictly an OL coach position and title. And you also have no idea whether the USCe coach turned the job down, or whether (as is often the case) Bama turned him down and allowed him the courtesy of pulling his name out of contention.

What we do know is that Cristobal has reportedly said that money is an issue--which means that Bama would apparently offer him more.

So please, don't lecture me about what is known and what is imagined.

Cristobal's situation is unique in that he has HC experience; he's not some lifer assistant. His stated goal is obviously to get back to an HC gig. Working for a national title contender for more money will likely allow him that chance better than working at UM for less money. End of story.

Really?
Please provide proof to support your assertion that working at Alabama provides better opportunity at becoming a HC.
Examples please.

How many Golden acolytes are currently HCs? And how many Saban ex-assistants are now HCs?

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Maybe you should do some research before you chime in. Stoutland was making 390 a year...Mario is making 500k. The whole Alabama mystique for coaching hires is completely overblown, and If you disagree come with facts. Not what YOU imagine to be reality....like the fact that the Oline coach for USCe just turned down the job (he must be a moron by your estimation). Name me the last Saban assistant from Alabama to become a head coach. Can you? I'll save you the time, Jim McElwain was OC and left to become head coach at mighty Colorado State. Can you name the last position coach to go straight from Alabama to HC somewhere? None...

The reality is he may go or he may not...I really have no idea, but on the surface it certainly looks to me like he'd be doing more harm to his reputation than anything he would gain from taking the job. It certainly is unlikely to get him a HC gig any faster, and he would have to be paid more than any of there current non-coordinator assistants for it to equal a pay raise.

What a load.

It doesn't matter what Stoutland made; he had no HC experience. And you have no idea what Mario is making at UM--we have nothing more than rumors to go on. And you also have no idea whether Bama would offer him a position title analogous to what he has at UM (Associate HC) or whether it would be strictly an OL coach position and title. And you also have no idea whether the USCe coach turned the job down, or whether (as is often the case) Bama turned him down and allowed him the courtesy of pulling his name out of contention.

What we do know is that Cristobal has reportedly said that money is an issue--which means that Bama would apparently offer him more.

So please, don't lecture me about what is known and what is imagined.

Cristobal's situation is unique in that he has HC experience; he's not some lifer assistant. His stated goal is obviously to get back to an HC gig. Working for a national title contender for more money will likely allow him that chance better than working at UM for less money. End of story.

Really?
Please provide proof to support your assertion that working at Alabama provides better opportunity at becoming a HC.
Examples please.

How many Golden acolytes are currently HCs? And how many Saban ex-assistants are now HCs?

 

[BigCaneAl]

Anyone who wants to actually discuss this situation rationally please do yourselves a favor and add Caneinheelcountry to your ignore list.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Anyone who wants to actually discuss this situation rationally please do yourselves a favor and add Caneinheelcountry to your ignore list.

Aww, another 12 year old girl butthurt that I don't agree with her. Grow up.

 

[zone3cane]

Well honestly i never understood his "worth" on this staff anyway and maybe Mario doesnt either and that's why he interviewed. It seemed like a "backwards" move to me when Golden hired him in the first place.

 

[CaneSuger]

Awww...I disagree with you, so I'm a loser or a troll. What are you, 12 years old? Grow the eff up.

The O Coord we just sent to the NFL had already been in the NFL before, and Richardson had 15 years total experience coaching RBs and went to the league to coach RBs. Both spent at least 2 seasons at the U before moving on. And for both, the UM gig was the best chance they had for advancement; no one from Bama or Oregon or LSU etc was beating down their doors.

Neither of those is analogous to Mario's situation. Dude's trying to put himself in the best spot possible to get a HG gig ASAP...next year, if possible. And Bama offers better pay and higher visibility on a national scale. If he's offered the gig and takes it, more power to him.

GTFOH with your sad **** routine. Be a man and recognize that men do what's best for their careers.

At the very least Mario was lying in his presser on what his intentions were on why he took the UM job in the first place. So now if I don't agree with you that him taking the Bama job is "best for his career" then I'm not a man. OK....LULZ.

If you can't realize how scummy that is then that's your issue. Like I said before, I hope he does leave.......for good, don't let the door hit you in the ***.

Thing is I'm not sure Saban will be to eager to hire him, knowing he'll likely be gone in less than a year as well (even though Saban is cut from the same ****).

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Negged. Anyone who says Alabama is better than Miami is getting negged automatically. It's a process.

 

[BrazilCane]

At the very least Mario was lying in his presser on what his intentions were on why he took the UM job in the first place. So now if I don't agree with you that him taking the Bama job is "best for his career" then I'm not a man. OK....LULZ.

If you can't realize how scummy that is then that's your issue. Like I said before, I hope he does leave.......for good, don't let the door hit you in the ***.

Thing is I'm not sure Saban will be to eager to hire him, knowing he'll likely be gone in less than a year as well (even though Saban is cut from the same ****).

You're not a man because you're acting like he owes you something when he doesn't owe you jack. His obligations are to his family, and if the Bama job pays more and gives him a better chance to succeed at the highest level, then he's doing what a man should do.

As far as his presser, the dude said what anyone taking the job would say. "I want to be part of putting the U back on the map" or something similar. Makes for a great press clipping, makes the fans feel warm and fuzzy. But there's a caveat there..."I want to be part of" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm willing to pass up more money at a better opportunity just to be part of"...

Once you realize that, then you'll be a man.

You're an idiot if you think reputation and loyalty don't matter. You're arguments for Fisch and Richardson getting hired are exactly the same reason this would be a lateral move for Mario. In your industry that **** may fly, but I don't think it would be viewed the same in coaching. Not all industries are the same.

Btw, you're situation doesn't make you Fredo, the guy who hired you is just a moron. I'm not hiring someone overqualified for a position for that exact reason, and if I do I better get some serious assurances they aren't going to bail at the first sign of a better gig.

Do you know what a lateral move is? A lateral move is going to the same position at a similar company for similar pay. And we know that Bama offers a step up in 2 out of those 3 (better pay, and as hard as it might be for you to admit, they're a better "company" right now)

Do you also realize that the coaching industry is filled with back-stabbing SOB's who've done far worse than anything Mario would be doing if he left for Bama? LMAO if you really think him taking a better-paying job at a better team would keep him from getting a job down the line.

Do you people think before you post?

Negged. Anyone who says Alabama is better than Miami is getting negged automatically. It's a process.

repped

 

[CaneSuger]

Look at what McDonald just did to Arkansas. Leaves UM for a lateral position then leaves a month later to be the Syracuse OC


Its business, if youre getting more money or think its a better move for your career you at least look into it.

If McDonald was a Ark alum and was on his second stint there Id say the situations are comparable

McDonald left because he knew Fisch was on his way to Jacksonville.