Artie Burns

[wherrera8]

He had a bad bowl game with every coach in the country watching. Wish him luck but it will be an uphill battle making a roster with little or no guaranteed money

He had 6 interceptions and he's a track all american. His combine numbers are going to be good. He will be at the very latest a 3rd round pick and in this years draft loaded with corners, that is pretty good. Nobody is going to cut their 3rd round pick with his upside and size/speed combo.

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

 

[CaneFanWNY]

Would love for the NFL'S DB whisperer Mike Zimmer to draft him and move him to the opposite side of Harrison smith

 

[Dirty Sprite]

He'll also be our highest pick as I said prior to the season. Popular picks for others were AQM and Bush.

Deon Bush could end up being a 1st round pick

 

[DaCanes386]

Best of luck!

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

He had a bad bowl game with every coach in the country watching. Wish him luck but it will be an uphill battle making a roster with little or no guaranteed money

He had 6 interceptions and he's a track all american. His combine numbers are going to be good. He will be at the very latest a 3rd round pick and in this years draft loaded with corners, that is pretty good. Nobody is going to cut their 3rd round pick with his upside and size/speed combo.

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

 

[wherrera8]

He had a bad bowl game with every coach in the country watching. Wish him luck but it will be an uphill battle making a roster with little or no guaranteed money

He had 6 interceptions and he's a track all american. His combine numbers are going to be good. He will be at the very latest a 3rd round pick and in this years draft loaded with corners, that is pretty good. Nobody is going to cut their 3rd round pick with his upside and size/speed combo.

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

Your post basically says that every player drafted, and in the league has the measurables- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and work ethic to go get it though.

Second, your post implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL, and that guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

He had a bad bowl game with every coach in the country watching. Wish him luck but it will be an uphill battle making a roster with little or no guaranteed money

He had 6 interceptions and he's a track all american. His combine numbers are going to be good. He will be at the very latest a 3rd round pick and in this years draft loaded with corners, that is pretty good. Nobody is going to cut their 3rd round pick with his upside and size/speed combo.

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

You're most masically says that every player drafted and in the league have the measurable- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and ethic to go get it though.

Second, your most implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL. That guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

You used two short QBs who had production and victories out the *** to compare to a corner who has 6 career picks and 30 PI/Holding calls in his career. How you make that leap i don't know. Sam Shields played DB for all of maybe a year and he was one of the smoooooothest athletes you've ever seen, even in HS and i saw a good bit of him. He learned the technique and learned it quickly. Artie is a track kid that can play football and he's been playing defense and learning the techniques for a lot longer. What makes you think he's all of the sudden going to make his technique beastly and take it to games? Cause of money?

This is Merica and we can agree to disagree

 

[cane since birth]

He had a bad bowl game with every coach in the country watching. Wish him luck but it will be an uphill battle making a roster with little or no guaranteed money

He had 6 interceptions and he's a track all american. His combine numbers are going to be good. He will be at the very latest a 3rd round pick and in this years draft loaded with corners, that is pretty good. Nobody is going to cut their 3rd round pick with his upside and size/speed combo.

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

You're post basically says that every player drafted and in the league have the measurable- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and ethic to go get it though.

Second, your most implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL. That guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

Was going to say all of this, so when guys from whatever colleges ball out in the NFL over kids from prominate colleges their coaches are better???? In the NFL its all about tangibles and how they can be worked with, every player that starts literally starts fresh, great post wherrera

 

[wherrera8]

He had 6 interceptions and he's a track all american. His combine numbers are going to be good. He will be at the very latest a 3rd round pick and in this years draft loaded with corners, that is pretty good. Nobody is going to cut their 3rd round pick with his upside and size/speed combo.

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

You're most masically says that every player drafted and in the league have the measurable- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and ethic to go get it though.

Second, your most implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL. That guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

You used two short QBs who had production and victories out the *** to compare to a corner who has 6 career picks and 30 PI/Holding calls in his career. How you make that leap i don't know. Sam Shields played DB for all of maybe a year and he was one of the smoooooothest athletes you've ever seen, even in HS and i saw a good bit of him. He learned the technique and learned it quickly. Artie is a track kid that can play football and he's been playing defense and learning the techniques. What makes you think he's all of the sudden going to make his technique beastly and take it to games? Cause of money?

Professional teaching. The best teachers in the game. You're assuming he's had good teachers all his life.

You don't like my example, fair enough. Tyrann Mathieu. Way too short to play was what a lot of people said - CERTIFIED STUD.

 

[WR Cane]

NO MOCK draft i've seen has him in the first 3 rounds.

Now I am not saying he wont work his way there, but he has some testing to do to get there imo.

His film is up and down. I do think he could have improved on his draft stock dramaically had he come back, and its proabbly going to cost him a million and a half, but I do understand his family situation too.

Neither was Dominique Rodgers cromartie. Sometimes who you got coached by is the difference. Sam shield went undrafted to pro bowl corner.

Lol. Dumb comment. DR-C was a senior when he left Tennessee freaking State and was drafted # 16 in the first round. Sam Shields was also a Senior. They had NO CHOICE but to go. I understand Artie's situation, but I wonder if he has heard anything from the Draft Advisory board. One more year from now he could have a heck of a lot more $$$ in his pocket than he will in 2 months.

 

[felix]

I wish him the best, tough year and people to take care of at home. However, one more year and he would be a 1st or 2nd rounder. IMO, not quite ready or mature enough.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

The kid has bad technique. Big deal. He has EVERYTHING you can't teach. Size, speed, quickness, measurables. Any NFL DB coach can teach him the proper techniques and a star is born. Artie will be a good one.

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

You're most masically says that every player drafted and in the league have the measurable- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and ethic to go get it though.

Second, your most implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL. That guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

You used two short QBs who had production and victories out the *** to compare to a corner who has 6 career picks and 30 PI/Holding calls in his career. How you make that leap i don't know. Sam Shields played DB for all of maybe a year and he was one of the smoooooothest athletes you've ever seen, even in HS and i saw a good bit of him. He learned the technique and learned it quickly. Artie is a track kid that can play football and he's been playing defense and learning the techniques. What makes you think he's all of the sudden going to make his technique beastly and take it to games? Cause of money?

Professional teaching. The best teachers in the game. You're assuming he's had good teachers all his life.

You don't like my example, fair enough. Tyrann Mathieu. Way too short to play was what a lot of people said - CERTIFIED STUD.

You keep going to the well on this height thing. Tyrann still had elite measurables in other facets of the game and when you turned on the tape you saw a guy making plays, INTs, TDs, and fumbles. Not 2 PI calls a game because they have lazy *** feet.

Elite teaching or not he was being taught the techniques to succeed and he just didn't want to do them. Look at the majority of his penalties and they're BAD. Most DBs coaches do the same drills with the same techniques. Artie just didn't care to much cause he was athletic enough to get by.

 

[cane since birth]

This is a very bad comment. EVERYONE in the NFL has EVERYTHING you can't teach speed, size, quickness, measurables....that's a big reason why they're in the NFL. The poeple who last long in the NFL and get paid have technique. Great technique at that.

When scouts flip on the tape and see his technique and what it cost his team there will be a lot of teams turned off by it. They will see it as a sign of uncoachable because no matter what we think of Paul Williams he doesn't coach his DBs to tackle his man off the LOS opposite the play side for a holding penalty and automatic first down. Artie is someone who never really took coaching to the field and got by on elite athleticism. He will get roasted in the league. however all is takes is one team to fall in love with "measurables" look at DJ Hayden

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

You're most masically says that every player drafted and in the league have the measurable- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and ethic to go get it though.

Second, your most implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL. That guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

You used two short QBs who had production and victories out the *** to compare to a corner who has 6 career picks and 30 PI/Holding calls in his career. How you make that leap i don't know. Sam Shields played DB for all of maybe a year and he was one of the smoooooothest athletes you've ever seen, even in HS and i saw a good bit of him. He learned the technique and learned it quickly. Artie is a track kid that can play football and he's been playing defense and learning the techniques. What makes you think he's all of the sudden going to make his technique beastly and take it to games? Cause of money?

Professional teaching. The best teachers in the game. You're assuming he's had good teachers all his life.

You don't like my example, fair enough. Tyrann Mathieu. Way too short to play was what a lot of people said - CERTIFIED STUD.

You keep going to the well on this height thing. Tyrann still had elite measurables in other facets of the game and when you turned on the tape you saw a guy making plays, INTs, TDs, and fumbles. Not 2 PI calls a game because they have lazy *** feet.

Elite teaching or not he was being taught the techniques to succeed and he just didn't want to do them. Look at the majority of his penalties and they're BAD. Most DBs coaches do the same drills with the same techniques. Artie just didn't care to much cause he was athletic enough to get by, but precise route runners always gave him a very hard time.

Tyrann also had a whatever 40 time, but ive seen plenty of kids that ball out in college go in so many top rounds and do nothing, you cant go on that premiss that since hey he balled in college he must be good in the pros, because thats a false premiss, its all about tangibles and what they can do in the league, and artie has that, his technique can be coached up which for almost all of the rookies is a brand new thing

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

Look man, if you're going to call my comment "bad" make sure yours isn't worse.

You're most masically says that every player drafted and in the league have the measurable- FALSE. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson both had to face questions about their measurables. Those type of guys had the skill and ethic to go get it though.

Second, your most implies that there is no room for learning or teaching to occur in the NFL. That guys with bad technique don't make it because no one will work with them- FALSE. Sam Shields is a perfect example.

You're right that some teams won't like Artie's play on film, but if you actually think that teams wouldn't use a 3rd or 4th round pick on him knowing they can teach him everything he needs to be a top corner- you're playing yourself.

You don't pass up on elite ATHLETES.

You used two short QBs who had production and victories out the *** to compare to a corner who has 6 career picks and 30 PI/Holding calls in his career. How you make that leap i don't know. Sam Shields played DB for all of maybe a year and he was one of the smoooooothest athletes you've ever seen, even in HS and i saw a good bit of him. He learned the technique and learned it quickly. Artie is a track kid that can play football and he's been playing defense and learning the techniques. What makes you think he's all of the sudden going to make his technique beastly and take it to games? Cause of money?

Professional teaching. The best teachers in the game. You're assuming he's had good teachers all his life.

You don't like my example, fair enough. Tyrann Mathieu. Way too short to play was what a lot of people said - CERTIFIED STUD.

You keep going to the well on this height thing. Tyrann still had elite measurables in other facets of the game and when you turned on the tape you saw a guy making plays, INTs, TDs, and fumbles. Not 2 PI calls a game because they have lazy *** feet.

Elite teaching or not he was being taught the techniques to succeed and he just didn't want to do them. Look at the majority of his penalties and they're BAD. Most DBs coaches do the same drills with the same techniques. Artie just didn't care to much cause he was athletic enough to get by, but precise route runners always gave him a very hard time.

Tyrann also had a whatever 40 time, but ive seen plenty of kids that ball out in college go in so many top rounds and do nothing, you cant go on that premiss that since hey he balled in college he must be good in the pros, because thats a false premiss, its all about tangibles and what they can do in the league, and artie has that, his technique can be coached up which for almost all of the rookies is a brand new thing

What intangibles does Artie bring to the table? I mean i get kids that ball in college sometimes don't make good pros. Look at Heisman Trophy winning QBs, but doesn't intangibles usually means something that can't really be defined or measured. You know like leadership, "it" factor, Heart, motor, never quits, nose for the ball, the ball just finds him....which one of those intangibles describes Artie?

I'm not trying to argue and i hope Artie does well. I was also the guy who used to say Artie was all this and all that and his 6 picks were the stuff of first rounders. Then the more you watched him play this year the more you scratch your head and when you make NFL poeple scratch their head at your play it's not a good look for you. I see a 4th round at best CB with a lot of work to do, but i don't get paid to make these decisions. Let's hope i'm wrong for Arties sake. He's a Cane and yes he can be a really good one, but if it hasn't clicked by now the odds say it might not click at all.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Good luck Artie, he'll be just fine in the league.

 

[WhatTheHell]

ACC leader in picks.
Track athlete.
Great frame.

I can see him finding his way into the 2nd round after he turns heads at the combine.

 

[cane since birth]

You used two short QBs who had production and victories out the *** to compare to a corner who has 6 career picks and 30 PI/Holding calls in his career. How you make that leap i don't know. Sam Shields played DB for all of maybe a year and he was one of the smoooooothest athletes you've ever seen, even in HS and i saw a good bit of him. He learned the technique and learned it quickly. Artie is a track kid that can play football and he's been playing defense and learning the techniques. What makes you think he's all of the sudden going to make his technique beastly and take it to games? Cause of money?

Professional teaching. The best teachers in the game. You're assuming he's had good teachers all his life.

You don't like my example, fair enough. Tyrann Mathieu. Way too short to play was what a lot of people said - CERTIFIED STUD.

You keep going to the well on this height thing. Tyrann still had elite measurables in other facets of the game and when you turned on the tape you saw a guy making plays, INTs, TDs, and fumbles. Not 2 PI calls a game because they have lazy *** feet.

Elite teaching or not he was being taught the techniques to succeed and he just didn't want to do them. Look at the majority of his penalties and they're BAD. Most DBs coaches do the same drills with the same techniques. Artie just didn't care to much cause he was athletic enough to get by, but precise route runners always gave him a very hard time.

Tyrann also had a whatever 40 time, but ive seen plenty of kids that ball out in college go in so many top rounds and do nothing, you cant go on that premiss that since hey he balled in college he must be good in the pros, because thats a false premiss, its all about tangibles and what they can do in the league, and artie has that, his technique can be coached up which for almost all of the rookies is a brand new thing

What intangibles does Artie bring to the table? I mean i get kids that ball in college sometimes don't make good pros. Look at Heisman Trophy winning QBs, but doesn't intangibles usually means something that can't really be defined or measured. You know like leadership, "it" factor, Heart, motor, never quits, nose for the ball, the ball just finds him....which one of those intangibles describes Artie?

I'm not trying to argue and i hope Artie does well. I was also the guy who used to say Artie was all this and all that and his 6 picks were the stuff of first rounders. Then the more you watched him play this year the more you scratch your head and when you make NFL poeple scratch their head at your play it's not a good look for you. I see a 4th round at best CB with a lot of work to do, but i don't get paid to make these decisions. Let's hope i'm wrong for Arties sake. He's a Cane and yes he can be a really good one, but if it hasn't clicked by now the odds say it might not click at all.

Herrera listed them to ya

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Good for him. It prolly wasn't much of decision considering his family situation. League minimum is around 500k and he'll better that for sure even in a worst case scenario if he slips in the draft. He'll be able to provide very well for his two brothers.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

Professional teaching. The best teachers in the game. You're assuming he's had good teachers all his life.

You don't like my example, fair enough. Tyrann Mathieu. Way too short to play was what a lot of people said - CERTIFIED STUD.

You keep going to the well on this height thing. Tyrann still had elite measurables in other facets of the game and when you turned on the tape you saw a guy making plays, INTs, TDs, and fumbles. Not 2 PI calls a game because they have lazy *** feet.

Elite teaching or not he was being taught the techniques to succeed and he just didn't want to do them. Look at the majority of his penalties and they're BAD. Most DBs coaches do the same drills with the same techniques. Artie just didn't care to much cause he was athletic enough to get by, but precise route runners always gave him a very hard time.

Tyrann also had a whatever 40 time, but ive seen plenty of kids that ball out in college go in so many top rounds and do nothing, you cant go on that premiss that since hey he balled in college he must be good in the pros, because thats a false premiss, its all about tangibles and what they can do in the league, and artie has that, his technique can be coached up which for almost all of the rookies is a brand new thing

What intangibles does Artie bring to the table? I mean i get kids that ball in college sometimes don't make good pros. Look at Heisman Trophy winning QBs, but doesn't intangibles usually means something that can't really be defined or measured. You know like leadership, "it" factor, Heart, motor, never quits, nose for the ball, the ball just finds him....which one of those intangibles describes Artie?

I'm not trying to argue and i hope Artie does well. I was also the guy who used to say Artie was all this and all that and his 6 picks were the stuff of first rounders. Then the more you watched him play this year the more you scratch your head and when you make NFL poeple scratch their head at your play it's not a good look for you. I see a 4th round at best CB with a lot of work to do, but i don't get paid to make these decisions. Let's hope i'm wrong for Arties sake. He's a Cane and yes he can be a really good one, but if it hasn't clicked by now the odds say it might not click at all.

Herrera listed them to ya

He listed measurables not intangibles.

I'm not saying he can't be a really good corner. He's just further away and has a lot more work than most of our fans want to believe. Again just an opinion.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

NO MOCK draft i've seen has him in the first 3 rounds.

Now I am not saying he wont work his way there, but he has some testing to do to get there imo.

His film is up and down. I do think he could have improved on his draft stock dramaically had he come back, and its proabbly going to cost him a million and a half, but I do understand his family situation too.

No mock draft had Feliciano getting drafted whatsoever and now he's starting. Other than the first and second round, I rarely see mock drafts really hit on their predictions.