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And so it begins…..CFP rankings chat

Runpasskickscore said:
They only dropped Iowa one spot for losing to Oregon. How many spots do you think they’ll drop OU and Texas for losing to Bama and UGA?
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Big differences I was going up against other two team losses. they dropped BYU Louisville, and Virginia five spots each
 
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Genghis Cane said:
I think we want Louisville to beat Clemson.

***** an ACC Championship birth. We want Louisville to remain ranked until they play SMU.
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You definitely want Louisville to lose. They’ll still be ranked relatively high on strength of schedule even if they fall out of the top 25 but you want no scenarios where you go ahead to head against them in a tiebreaker with nobody else and if they have the same amount of losses that remains a possibility.
 
Poptimus said:
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Guys, what am I missing? Seems we are in if we win the conference per ESPN.
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We are in seventh place in the conference right now. They’re just using their college football rankings without taking into account likelihood of getting to the ACC title game because in fact our odds to make at large are better than our odds of winning the ACC.

They’re simplifying the bracket by putting the highest ranked ACC team without accounting for the craziness of the ACC this year and it’s confusing the ever living **** out of people
 
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Ahhhh... the U has a chance to make the playoffs (or make the ACC championship game) if we win out in November

Where have I heard that before?
 
It’s gunna be funny hearing the bs in a mi th about how ND beat Pitt better than we beat Pitt and people try to flip that to them still deserving slot above us if we both win out.

Btw I still think ND beating Pitt is better for us as that is our highest quality win. And if Pitt loses close to ND then beats GTech they will still be ranked when we play them and it could even be for ACC CG playin
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
It’s very much bull**** but Mario needs to plaster that bracket all over the facility. Just blatantly lie to these kids that if we win we’re in. Hey look, we’re 11th. We’re in!! Just keep winning!!
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Mario isnt that type of leader honestly. He gonna say we just working.. He is selling that the team isnt there yet and playing for more losses.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
This a reality show. Literally. It’s absolutely influenced by ratings and draw.

But if you’re talking strictly about Miami, we were not deserving last year. And this isn’t an I hate Mario we suck everyone sucks we all deserve to die typical CIS mope comment. We literally didn’t beat a single good team last year. And lost 2 of 3 to finish. We didn’t have a good enough resume. The committee got it right when it came to Miami.
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The defense was also undeniably putrid in 2024 and getting worse each game.

While the offense has been lackluster the last few weeks we are still flashing potential in every game and we have several games where we dominated in Mario fyzical fashion early on. We just need to play two complete games these next two weeks then find a way to win at Pitt and the eye test should be good enough. Pitt beating or pushing ND to a close game late in the 4th is all we would need to be in without question.

If it comes down to us vs the Irish and ND blows out Pitt then we need to have a dominant win as well or back door into the ACCCG and win.
 
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Week 12 Anger Index: Why a No. 15 ranking isn't good enough for Miami

After jumping up three spots, Miami still has plenty to be upset about, but what other teams should be mad?
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1. Miami Hurricanes (7-2, No. 15)

Miami is ranked No. 15 this week. Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire
In Bill Connelly's SP+ ranking this week, Georgia is one spot ahead of Alabama. But the two teams have the same record, and the Tide hold a head-to-head advantage, so the committee -- rightfully -- has Alabama ranked higher.

SP+ actually has Oklahoma (ninth) ahead of Texas (14th) by a sizable margin, and the Sooners' overall profile -- with wins vs. Michigan and Tennessee -- is better, too. But again, the two schools have the same record, and Texas holds a head-to-head win, so the committee ranked the Horns higher.

Or consider Louisville and Virginia. The Cardinals (26th) are a full 15 spots ahead of Virginia in SP+ and 14 spots higher in strength of record. And no matter that Virginia's head-to-head win over the Cardinals came in overtime and required two defensive touchdowns, the committee appreciates what happened on the field, and it has the Cavaliers ranked higher.

Similarly, the committee has USC ahead of Michigan, BYU ahead of Utah and Georgia ahead of Ole Miss, partially because the metrics bear that out, but also because, in each case, the higher-ranked team has the head-to-head win.

Please explain why Miami is different.

The Hurricanes' metrics are solid. They're 13th in SP+, 13th in strength of record, have four wins vs. FPI top-35 teams (i.e. the top 25% of FBS) -- more than anyone but Texas A&M and Alabama -- and, of course, have the same record as Notre Dame and hold the head-to-head victory over the Irish.

The committee, however, has Notre Dame ranked ninth and Miami 15th.

It's nonsensical on its face, and worse when you consider the committee also has Texas (with a worse loss than either of Miami's), Utah (just one FPI top-35 win) and Vanderbilt (four spots behind Miami in FPI) all ranked higher, too.

Again, it's certainly possible the Canes lose this week to NC State -- a team that has already taken down Virginia and Georgia Tech -- but that's not the point. The committee isn't supposed to guess what will happen next. It's supposed to rank teams based on what they've done so far, and there is absolutely no metric that warrants Miami's placement behind so many two-loss teams with clearly inferior résumés.
 
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Feel confident Miami has a solid chance getting in if it wins out. Media sentiment overwhelmingly favors Miami. If you look at the schedule the next three weeks, lot of higher ranked 1 & 2 loss teams face off. Just no room for error.
 
Yoyo423 said:
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Week 12 Anger Index: Why a No. 15 ranking isn't good enough for Miami

After jumping up three spots, Miami still has plenty to be upset about, but what other teams should be mad?
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1. Miami Hurricanes (7-2, No. 15)

Miami is ranked No. 15 this week. Samuel Lewis/Icon Sportswire
In Bill Connelly's SP+ ranking this week, Georgia is one spot ahead of Alabama. But the two teams have the same record, and the Tide hold a head-to-head advantage, so the committee -- rightfully -- has Alabama ranked higher.

SP+ actually has Oklahoma (ninth) ahead of Texas (14th) by a sizable margin, and the Sooners' overall profile -- with wins vs. Michigan and Tennessee -- is better, too. But again, the two schools have the same record, and Texas holds a head-to-head win, so the committee ranked the Horns higher.

Or consider Louisville and Virginia. The Cardinals (26th) are a full 15 spots ahead of Virginia in SP+ and 14 spots higher in strength of record. And no matter that Virginia's head-to-head win over the Cardinals came in overtime and required two defensive touchdowns, the committee appreciates what happened on the field, and it has the Cavaliers ranked higher.

Similarly, the committee has USC ahead of Michigan, BYU ahead of Utah and Georgia ahead of Ole Miss, partially because the metrics bear that out, but also because, in each case, the higher-ranked team has the head-to-head win.

Please explain why Miami is different.

The Hurricanes' metrics are solid. They're 13th in SP+, 13th in strength of record, have four wins vs. FPI top-35 teams (i.e. the top 25% of FBS) -- more than anyone but Texas A&M and Alabama -- and, of course, have the same record as Notre Dame and hold the head-to-head victory over the Irish.

The committee, however, has Notre Dame ranked ninth and Miami 15th.

It's nonsensical on its face, and worse when you consider the committee also has Texas (with a worse loss than either of Miami's), Utah (just one FPI top-35 win) and Vanderbilt (four spots behind Miami in FPI) all ranked higher, too.

Again, it's certainly possible the Canes lose this week to NC State -- a team that has already taken down Virginia and Georgia Tech -- but that's not the point. The committee isn't supposed to guess what will happen next. It's supposed to rank teams based on what they've done so far, and there is absolutely no metric that warrants Miami's placement behind so many two-loss teams with clearly inferior résumés.
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Names matter. Games don’t. ND, Bama, OSU, Texas will always get into the playoffs over other teams with similar records and a better resume.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
It’s a dumb comment. If there’s one thing Miami has actually been, it’s consistent. We play the same game every single week on offense. Just when we play truly atrocious teams, we score in the mid 30s. When we play average teams, we score in the 20s. But the numbers are painfully consistent. Consistently average, and boring. Every week.
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Because what we do does not matter. He’s just bull****ting the media. As soon as we lost, it gave them an excuse to put us on the outside. Dawson shouldn’t change his strategy to fit what the CFP Committee is looking for, because it won’t change anything. He needs to change his strategy because he should be trying to win each game.

If somehow the dominoes fall, then we got lucky, because the CFP Committee is trying to put as many SEC/Big 10 teams in as possible, and just slot in who they are contractually obligated to in the remaining spots. That’s why the rankings and the excuses don’t make sense. They aren’t supposed to, and we have to stop trying to rationalize them.
 
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