Allison transferring

[Waffle Honcho]

Thank you. Kaaya played in this exact offense last season and compared to him, Allison is Mike Vick. The Allison camp is trying to spin it as "they want a different type of quarterback". That may be the case in the long run but as of right now, there's no way he should have been falling behind two JAGs. It's not like Richt is telling him he has to be some All American, he just has to practice and scrimmage better than two guys who arguably aren't Miami scholarship caliber. He couldn't even do that so he's transferring. Maybe he can succeed in a different type of offense but I guarantee, if he goes to another P5 school, he's going to have to beat out guys better than Rosier and Shirreffs.

Why was he falling behind if his stats were better and he had the best tools of the group?

If you were at work and you saw other people who weren't accomplishing as much as you and weren't as talented as you, would you stay there if you found a better opportunity?

His stats in the last scrimmage were better because unlike Rosier and Shirreffs, he was going against the second and third team defense. I don't care what "tools" he has, the coaching staff has him ranked a clear third on the current roster. Behind two guys who really don't have any business being being first string P5 quarterbacks. Maybe an FCS school will offer less competition.

That doesn't answer the question as to why he was behind.

The head coach saying "Jack Allison is third string" doesn't mean he's behind the first and second string guys? Come on man. When the spring started, Richt said it was an open quarterback competition and every one would be given a shot. At the end of spring, Richt said Shirreffs and Rosier were co-number ones. That mean Jack Allison had fallen to at least #3 on the depth chart.

Are you confused on what the word "why" means?

 

[DTP]

Why was he falling behind if his stats were better and he had the best tools of the group?

If you were at work and you saw other people who weren't accomplishing as much as you and weren't as talented as you, would you stay there if you found a better opportunity?

His stats in the last scrimmage were better because unlike Rosier and Shirreffs, he was going against the second and third team defense. I don't care what "tools" he has, the coaching staff has him ranked a clear third on the current roster. Behind two guys who really don't have any business being being first string P5 quarterbacks. Maybe an FCS school will offer less competition.

That doesn't answer the question as to why he was behind.

The head coach saying "Jack Allison is third string" doesn't mean he's behind the first and second string guys? Come on man. When the spring started, Richt said it was an open quarterback competition and every one would be given a shot. At the end of spring, Richt said Shirreffs and Rosier were co-number ones. That mean Jack Allison had fallen to at least #3 on the depth chart.

Are you confused on what the word "why" means?

Do I need to explain to you why coaches pick certain players to be starters and others to be backups?

 

[Waffle Honcho]

His stats in the last scrimmage were better because unlike Rosier and Shirreffs, he was going against the second and third team defense. I don't care what "tools" he has, the coaching staff has him ranked a clear third on the current roster. Behind two guys who really don't have any business being being first string P5 quarterbacks. Maybe an FCS school will offer less competition.

That doesn't answer the question as to why he was behind.

The head coach saying "Jack Allison is third string" doesn't mean he's behind the first and second string guys? Come on man. When the spring started, Richt said it was an open quarterback competition and every one would be given a shot. At the end of spring, Richt said Shirreffs and Rosier were co-number ones. That mean Jack Allison had fallen to at least #3 on the depth chart.

Are you confused on what the word "why" means?

Do I need to explain to you why coaches pick certain players to be starters and others to be backups?

Ok. If you started this out by saying your never played competitive sports before this would've been a shorter conversation.

 

[BigDikCane]

I remember telling you dudes this chit two years ago...

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/jack-allison/117088/3

 

[DTP]

That doesn't answer the question as to why he was behind.

The head coach saying "Jack Allison is third string" doesn't mean he's behind the first and second string guys? Come on man. When the spring started, Richt said it was an open quarterback competition and every one would be given a shot. At the end of spring, Richt said Shirreffs and Rosier were co-number ones. That mean Jack Allison had fallen to at least #3 on the depth chart.

Are you confused on what the word "why" means?

Do I need to explain to you why coaches pick certain players to be starters and others to be backups?

Ok. If you started this out by saying your never played competitive sports before this would've been a shorter conversation.

Actually I was going to ask you the same question. Clearly you don't understand that the best players start and the ones who aren't as good sit the bench. If you want to know the exact criteria Mark Richt and his staff have for determining which players they think are the best, you'll have to ask him. It's quite obvious to every single poster here besides you that the staff feels that Allison isn't as good as Shirreffs or Rosier. This isn't some BS motivational tactic. It's also the reason why they're not really upset about him transferring.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

The head coach saying "Jack Allison is third string" doesn't mean he's behind the first and second string guys? Come on man. When the spring started, Richt said it was an open quarterback competition and every one would be given a shot. At the end of spring, Richt said Shirreffs and Rosier were co-number ones. That mean Jack Allison had fallen to at least #3 on the depth chart.

Are you confused on what the word "why" means?

Do I need to explain to you why coaches pick certain players to be starters and others to be backups?

Ok. If you started this out by saying your never played competitive sports before this would've been a shorter conversation.

Actually I was going to ask you the same question. Clearly you don't understand that the best players start and the ones who aren't as good sit the bench. If you want to know the exact criteria Mark Richt and his staff have for determining which players they think are the best, you'll have to ask him. It's quite obvious to every single poster here besides you that the staff feels that Allison isn't as good as Shirreffs or Rosier. This isn't some BS motivational tactic. It's also the reason why they're not really upset about him transferring.

I don't really know why you're arguing against things that i'm not even saying. Brooklyndee gave some insight, if anyone else has some insight that would be great. Don't really need anyone reading the depth chart to me.

 

[imurcane]

Writing was def on the wall.

it is imperative to the program that Perry be legit. It is also imperative that one of the other two are warriors. And lastly arthur has to be a beast as well. Otherwise we are going to be in the same shape uga was at the end of the right era. Don't think it is too serious now but another transfer and kid that doesn't develop and we ****ed.

 

[Brooklyndee]

My issue with Dee is more the way he treats guys on the team.

He claims to be (and I don't doubt) a former player who is tight with and has a lot of access to the program. Then he comes on here and talks non-stop **** about guys like Rosier, Redwine, etc. Pretty much saying how much they "suck" and how dare anyone question his evaluation.

Using his access to talk **** behind player's backs is pathetic and childish. Get that dude away from the program asap

At least I'll give you credit for having a legitimate beef. However alot of things in a text forum are "slightly mangled" in context. For instance it's not relevant to me How anyone else views people. I say my two cents which sometimes (granted) may be harsh & sometimes gets carried away by people like the clown posse twisting words from what they mean. Also non stop certainly doesn't apply to me. You have an issue that I express myself and I hold kids to a standard. That's your issue & you're entitled to it. But they are told the same things by their coaches,by their teammates,etc. Even by you all on here who simply won't put a name on it but about play calling rather than execution. That say such and such will transfer out next year because he's not our caliber... so it's cool to have an issue with how you feel I express myself just please don't be one of those dudes who does the same just on the sly...

Unless your birth name is brooklyndee you're doing it on the sly too. You trash players under a made up screen name, so it's funny that you criticize others for doing the same.

Y'all crack me up. The locker room can turn boys to men or men to es real quick. I don't hide behind a screen for anything I do. I'm at each & every game,a good amount of practices when I'm around and I'll always speak my mind. No coward here home boy. Anything I'd say on here I'd say anywhere else too. If someone is playing like **** there held accountable by alot more than just lil old me. No room to be light in the *** here. This is a grown mans sport & at this school you're expected to play to a standard...

If you're not hiding behind a screen name then why won't you tell anyone your real name on here? You're beating your chest about separating the men from the boys and all that, yet you cling to your anonymity on here like a vulture.

You're smart to protect your anonymity so vigorously with all the outrageous **** you say about the players on here. The hypocrisy of calling others out for doing the same thing you're doing is funny though. You always make me laugh so I love you for that.

Likewise. The **** that comes out of your mouth while you claim to be a member of the bar association makes me laugh too. This sight has no part in my life. Anyone involved in the program knows this screen name to who I am though. If you decide to support the team in a meaningful way you could know too. Obviously on a person to person basis I won't stick to a screen name or do your business cards say the living legend on them? Always gotta try & make things out to be more than they are but I understand it's just in your nature. Since its so important to you feel free to let me know any game you'll be at this year (I don't miss any home games & I try my best on road games as well) as long as you're atleast at the club level I'd be more than happy to drop the screen names.

 

[Brooklyndee]

[MENTION=10043]SWFLSWAGG17[/MENTION]...

Say what you will about Kayya, he had his areas to work on, but if he weren't almost savant like with picking up offense he wouldn't have started.

"Savant like with picking up offense"?

That offense He ran as a freshman was basic as ****, He probably ran a more complex O in HS.

Kaaya is a brilliant kid, so it's very telling that even he could only handle the most basic offense and spent the entire season looking at the sideline before every snap.

I don't know if Perry is as bright as Kaaya, but he's going to have to be **** near genius level with the mental makeup of Joe Montana to run a real offense after a month of practice.

I tend to agree with this. He's gonna have to be a Rain Man mentally to get us the ACC. I'm not saying he can't because I haven't seen him go in college yet but it's a huge leap of faith.

I'm sure it's been posted before but is he working with anyone besides Crablegs? Has he hired a RPO QB coach to get him as close as he can?

What exactly is he doing right now besides throw to HS kids?

I don't know what Perry does but he does seem to be mature atleast. He seems to realize what's on his plate right now & I hope he's ready for the challenge. Funny but the only an out here today that was getting work in all by himself (qb wise) is Weldon. Take it for what it is but I just can't see either of these two winning this job come the end of summer. Jack clearly took the easy route out & was too tender for an actual competition. Oh well. Next man up. If you take the time to look at each upside & factor in our schedule & the defense I can't really see the downside to letting nkosi learn on the fly. This is the perfect year for him to get some experience in while playing with a defense and running game capable of carrying us to wins over basic teams.

 

[streetja]

Oh look guys another delusional "bro, we good with 2 rbs bro" "bro, fvck having a senior QB come back to lead this team bro" "a 170lb true freshman QB is going to be great bro"

Any valid criticism on the program and this board goes into full sob mode. It takes the 4th year of Golden's tenure for guys like you to see what's happening

Valid criticism is deserved, I've given Rick plenty of it especially regarding his playcalling and offensive approach since it resulted in L's during the L streak last year.

Your pvssy lips are flapping about shīt basically out of his control. The 3rd/4th string QB deciding to transfer because he couldn't and wouldn't keep up and/or had accuracy issues.

Somebody whose trajectory looked like it was going to be way down at the end of the bench, and you're hyperventilating like you need smelling salts and a fainting couch like some chick.

It's more than Allison, the fact that you don't get that from what I've been saying is unsettling. And furthermore, yes, I'd argue a highly touted redshirt freshman just off completing his first year at the school is an asset that could prove itself in the future. Whether it be by actually starting or building depth at the position and enhancing competition -- all things legit programs have at virtually every position.

But go ahead, be Mr. Critical, but at the same time see nothing wrong with the fact that Kaaya left to be a 5th round pick, Yearby left to go undrafted, and Gus and Allison transferred.

Remind me again, what are the two positions that have the biggest question marks/concerns heading into next season?

I don't understand. Are you trying to imply kids don't want to play for Richt? I get that you don't like Richt, as you have made that incredibly obvious, but don't be stupid. All his players have loved playing for him his entire career. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt in regards to players transferring out.

**** exactly like this is what I'm implying...

Ready for his new journey, Kaaya said coach Mark Richt gave him “complete freedom’’ to make his decision.

Coach Richt said, ‘Do what’s in your gut. I’d love to have you back, but at the end of the day I want you to do what you feel in your heart is best.’ He said he wanted me to be at peace. I appreciate that.

Read more here: 404 Page Not Found

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Richt needs to be ruthless and be more concerned about our W/L record than what's best for the kids. That sounds ruthless, and it is, but it's exactly what I want from my HC. Richt has been nothing but passive towards the guys who've wanted to leave early or transfer to the detriment of our team next year.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Like I said poor mans Bryan Fortay all the way gentlemen!

 

[Calinative]

too bad the FSU game isn't a little later.
If Perry had 5 or so games under his belt before then it'd be better.

then again less games he's played, less film on him for fsu to study. so thats good i guess.

 

[MIA42178]

LMAO. Allison transferring has nothing to do w a kid who isn't even enrolled yet.

He looked in his rearview and saw

 

[DC1986]

He transferred because he was third string and he sucks. From Richt-

It came out Tuesday that you guys are looking to have more of a dual-threat qb and I wanted to see your reaction to that:

“Well that’s no so much the case. We want to make sure that whoever we have back there can move well and that will be helpful. So, I think you want a guy that can throw the ball and make good decisions and lead your team. A guy like that can certainly function well. But it helps if the guy has a little bit of an ability to move. So we’re not saying we’re going to a qb run game – that’s not the case at all. We just want the ability to make sure that whoever is back there can move well. That’s part of the criteria of what we’re looking for.”

Read more here: UM's Mark Richt today, word for word, on N'Kosi Perry and QB update | Miami Herald

 

[KrazyCane]

He transferred because he was third string and he sucks. From Richt-

It came out Tuesday that you guys are looking to have more of a dual-threat qb and I wanted to see your reaction to that:

“Well that’s no so much the case. We want to make sure that whoever we have back there can move well and that will be helpful. So, I think you want a guy that can throw the ball and make good decisions and lead your team. A guy like that can certainly function well. But it helps if the guy has a little bit of an ability to move. So we’re not saying we’re going to a qb run game – that’s not the case at all. We just want the ability to make sure that whoever is back there can move well. That’s part of the criteria of what we’re looking for.”

Read more here: UM's Mark Richt today, word for word, on N'Kosi Perry and QB update | Miami Herald

lol based on this, Brad Kaaya wouldve been benched if he came back... N'Kosi Perry wouldve took his spot regardless.

 

[FIUMCane]

Oh look guys another delusional "bro, we good with 2 rbs bro" "bro, fvck having a senior QB come back to lead this team bro" "a 170lb true freshman QB is going to be great bro"

Any valid criticism on the program and this board goes into full sob mode. It takes the 4th year of Golden's tenure for guys like you to see what's happening

Valid criticism is deserved, I've given Rick plenty of it especially regarding his playcalling and offensive approach since it resulted in L's during the L streak last year.

Your pvssy lips are flapping about shīt basically out of his control. The 3rd/4th string QB deciding to transfer because he couldn't and wouldn't keep up and/or had accuracy issues.

Somebody whose trajectory looked like it was going to be way down at the end of the bench, and you're hyperventilating like you need smelling salts and a fainting couch like some chick.

It's more than Allison, the fact that you don't get that from what I've been saying is unsettling. And furthermore, yes, I'd argue a highly touted redshirt freshman just off completing his first year at the school is an asset that could prove itself in the future. Whether it be by actually starting or building depth at the position and enhancing competition -- all things legit programs have at virtually every position.

But go ahead, be Mr. Critical, but at the same time see nothing wrong with the fact that Kaaya left to be a 5th round pick, Yearby left to go undrafted, and Gus and Allison transferred.

Remind me again, what are the two positions that have the biggest question marks/concerns heading into next season?

I don't understand. Are you trying to imply kids don't want to play for Richt? I get that you don't like Richt, as you have made that incredibly obvious, but don't be stupid. All his players have loved playing for him his entire career. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt in regards to players transferring out.

**** exactly like this is what I'm implying...

Ready for his new journey, Kaaya said coach Mark Richt gave him “complete freedom’’ to make his decision.

Coach Richt said, ‘Do what’s in your gut. I’d love to have you back, but at the end of the day I want you to do what you feel in your heart is best.’ He said he wanted me to be at peace. I appreciate that.

Read more here: 404 Page Not Found

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Richt needs to be ruthless and be more concerned about our W/L record than what's best for the kids. That sounds ruthless, and it is, but it's exactly what I want from my HC. Richt has been nothing but passive towards the guys who've wanted to leave early or transfer to the detriment of our team next year.

Its richt's second year running a program that has been hot turds for 15 years, but you want him to be a Nick Sabag type dictator...I'm sure that will help tremendously with recruiting. No one wants to play for an ******* unless his name is nick Saban and have won 5 national championships since like 2004.

Have patience man. Richt has this program headed towards the right direction. He literally has kids lining up to join a 8-4 team who won their first bowl game in ten years. The guy has been a magician so far and it's barely year 2.

Talent wins games in college. This isn't the NFL and we're New England where their coaching is so good they can plug in 5'6" white guys into the offense and win championships. We don't need that (although I think our coaches are some of the best) what we need is elite talent and Richt is getting us what the previous 3 staphs couldn't even dream of. And you're saying kids don't want to play for him? Come on man. Give it a rest.

 

[The Franchise]

At least I'll give you credit for having a legitimate beef. However alot of things in a text forum are "slightly mangled" in context. For instance it's not relevant to me How anyone else views people. I say my two cents which sometimes (granted) may be harsh & sometimes gets carried away by people like the clown posse twisting words from what they mean. Also non stop certainly doesn't apply to me. You have an issue that I express myself and I hold kids to a standard. That's your issue & you're entitled to it. But they are told the same things by their coaches,by their teammates,etc. Even by you all on here who simply won't put a name on it but about play calling rather than execution. That say such and such will transfer out next year because he's not our caliber... so it's cool to have an issue with how you feel I express myself just please don't be one of those dudes who does the same just on the sly...

Unless your birth name is brooklyndee you're doing it on the sly too. You trash players under a made up screen name, so it's funny that you criticize others for doing the same.

Y'all crack me up. The locker room can turn boys to men or men to es real quick. I don't hide behind a screen for anything I do. I'm at each & every game,a good amount of practices when I'm around and I'll always speak my mind. No coward here home boy. Anything I'd say on here I'd say anywhere else too. If someone is playing like **** there held accountable by alot more than just lil old me. No room to be light in the *** here. This is a grown mans sport & at this school you're expected to play to a standard...

If you're not hiding behind a screen name then why won't you tell anyone your real name on here? You're beating your chest about separating the men from the boys and all that, yet you cling to your anonymity on here like a vulture.

You're smart to protect your anonymity so vigorously with all the outrageous **** you say about the players on here. The hypocrisy of calling others out for doing the same thing you're doing is funny though. You always make me laugh so I love you for that.

Likewise. The **** that comes out of your mouth while you claim to be a member of the bar association makes me laugh too. This sight has no part in my life. Anyone involved in the program knows this screen name to who I am though. If you decide to support the team in a meaningful way you could know too. Obviously on a person to person basis I won't stick to a screen name or do your business cards say the living legend on them? Always gotta try & make things out to be more than they are but I understand it's just in your nature. Since its so important to you feel free to let me know any game you'll be at this year (I don't miss any home games & I try my best on road games as well) as long as you're atleast at the club level I'd be more than happy to drop the screen names.

You are clearly a very high roller. I hope to one day reach your level so that I can have the honor of being in your regal presence. I promise not to look in your eyes if I ever have the distinct honor of making it to club level.

 

[AllbouttheU]

He transferred because he was third string and he sucks. From Richt-

It came out Tuesday that you guys are looking to have more of a dual-threat qb and I wanted to see your reaction to that:

“Well that’s no so much the case. We want to make sure that whoever we have back there can move well and that will be helpful. So, I think you want a guy that can throw the ball and make good decisions and lead your team. A guy like that can certainly function well. But it helps if the guy has a little bit of an ability to move. So we’re not saying we’re going to a qb run game – that’s not the case at all. We just want the ability to make sure that whoever is back there can move well. That’s part of the criteria of what we’re looking for.”

Read more here: UM's Mark Richt today, word for word, on N'Kosi Perry and QB update | Miami Herald

lol based on this, Brad Kaaya wouldve been benched if he came back... N'Kosi Perry wouldve took his spot regardless.

You really don't believe that.

 

[MIA42178]

[MENTION=10043]SWFLSWAGG17[/MENTION]...

Say what you will about Kayya, he had his areas to work on, but if he weren't almost savant like with picking up offense he wouldn't have started.

"Savant like with picking up offense"?

That offense He ran as a freshman was basic as ****, He probably ran a more complex O in HS.

Kaaya is a brilliant kid, so it's very telling that even he could only handle the most basic offense and spent the entire season looking at the sideline before every snap.

I don't know if Perry is as bright as Kaaya, but he's going to have to be **** near genius level with the mental makeup of Joe Montana to run a real offense after a month of practice.

I tend to agree with this. He's gonna have to be a Rain Man mentally to get us the ACC. I'm not saying he can't because I haven't seen him go in college yet but it's a huge leap of faith.

I'm sure it's been posted before but is he working with anyone besides Crablegs? Has he hired a RPO QB coach to get him as close as he can?

What exactly is he doing right now besides throw to HS kids?

I don't know what Perry does but he does seem to be mature atleast. He seems to realize what's on his plate right now & I hope he's ready for the challenge. Funny but the only an out here today that was getting work in all by himself (qb wise) is Weldon. Take it for what it is but I just can't see either of these two winning this job come the end of summer. Jack clearly took the easy route out & was too tender for an actual competition. Oh well. Next man up. If you take the time to look at each upside & factor in our schedule & the defense I can't really see the downside to letting nkosi learn on the fly. This is the perfect year for him to get some experience in while playing with a defense and running game capable of carrying us to wins over basic teams.

Is it wrong to feel like Perry and Weldon will do well here? Kids seem hungry as ****.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Unless your birth name is brooklyndee you're doing it on the sly too. You trash players under a made up screen name, so it's funny that you criticize others for doing the same.

Y'all crack me up. The locker room can turn boys to men or men to es real quick. I don't hide behind a screen for anything I do. I'm at each & every game,a good amount of practices when I'm around and I'll always speak my mind. No coward here home boy. Anything I'd say on here I'd say anywhere else too. If someone is playing like **** there held accountable by alot more than just lil old me. No room to be light in the *** here. This is a grown mans sport & at this school you're expected to play to a standard...

If you're not hiding behind a screen name then why won't you tell anyone your real name on here? You're beating your chest about separating the men from the boys and all that, yet you cling to your anonymity on here like a vulture.

You're smart to protect your anonymity so vigorously with all the outrageous **** you say about the players on here. The hypocrisy of calling others out for doing the same thing you're doing is funny though. You always make me laugh so I love you for that.

Likewise. The **** that comes out of your mouth while you claim to be a member of the bar association makes me laugh too. This sight has no part in my life. Anyone involved in the program knows this screen name to who I am though. If you decide to support the team in a meaningful way you could know too. Obviously on a person to person basis I won't stick to a screen name or do your business cards say the living legend on them? Always gotta try & make things out to be more than they are but I understand it's just in your nature. Since its so important to you feel free to let me know any game you'll be at this year (I don't miss any home games & I try my best on road games as well) as long as you're atleast at the club level I'd be more than happy to drop the screen names.

You are clearly a very high roller. I hope to one day reach your level so that I can have the honor of being in your regal presence. I promise not to look in your eyes if I ever have the distinct honor of making it to club level.

Why do you always push your insecurities off on everyone? ***** tiring. You as the ordained smegma peddler of the clown posse always worry so much about me. All i said is how we can meet up and as usual you throw ur own twist into ****.