Allison transferring

[MENTION=10043]SWFLSWAGG17[/MENTION]...
Say what you will about Kayya, he had his areas to work on, but if he weren't almost savant like with picking up offense he wouldn't have started.

"Savant like with picking up offense"?

That offense He ran as a freshman was basic as ****, He probably ran a more complex O in HS.

Kaaya is a brilliant kid, so it's very telling that even he could only handle the most basic offense and spent the entire season looking at the sideline before every snap.

I don't know if Perry is as bright as Kaaya, but he's going to have to be **** near genius level with the mental makeup of Joe Montana to run a real offense after a month of practice.
 
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Throwing in the towel? If as many suggest, the system has changed to one he's not suited, he's not one of the "coaches guys", the real competition begins until Perry arrives; he's probably feels at this point, it's not a level playing field and it's a foregone conclusion. And I'm almost certain that once the spring practice's completed, Richt at down with each QB gave them a reality check on where they stood.

I don't blame him for moving on and doing a reset while he has time.

You clowns are acting like Rick suddenly installed the triple option.

Allison quit because he couldn't beat out two bums. Get that through your heads. He quit because he didn't want to compete with Rosier and Shirreffs.

This narrative about the system suddenly changing is one being advanced by Allison's stage mom to make it seem like him and his son didn't quit as a RS Freshman in the middle of what should have been a winnable QB battle.

Thank you. Kaaya played in this exact offense last season and compared to him, Allison is Mike Vick. The Allison camp is trying to spin it as "they want a different type of quarterback". That may be the case in the long run but as of right now, there's no way he should have been falling behind two JAGs. It's not like Richt is telling him he has to be some All American, he just has to practice and scrimmage better than two guys who arguably aren't Miami scholarship caliber. He couldn't even do that so he's transferring. Maybe he can succeed in a different type of offense but I guarantee, if he goes to another P5 school, he's going to have to beat out guys better than Rosier and Shirreffs.

Why was he falling behind if his stats were better and he had the best tools of the group?

If you were at work and you saw other people who weren't accomplishing as much as you and weren't as talented as you, would you stay there if you found a better opportunity?

His stats in the last scrimmage were better because unlike Rosier and Shirreffs, he was going against the second and third team defense. I don't care what "tools" he has, the coaching staff has him ranked a clear third on the current roster. Behind two guys who really don't have any business being being first string P5 quarterbacks. Maybe an FCS school will offer less competition.

That doesn't answer the question as to why he was behind.
 
[MENTION=10043]SWFLSWAGG17[/MENTION]...
Say what you will about Kayya, he had his areas to work on, but if he weren't almost savant like with picking up offense he wouldn't have started.

"Savant like with picking up offense"?

That offense He ran as a freshman was basic as ****, He probably ran a more complex O in HS.

Kaaya is a brilliant kid, so it's very telling that even he could only handle the most basic offense and spent the entire season looking at the sideline before every snap.

I don't know if Perry is as bright as Kaaya, but he's going to have to be **** near genius level with the mental makeup of Joe Montana to run a real offense after a month of practice.

I tend to agree with this. He's gonna have to be a Rain Man mentally to get us the ACC. I'm not saying he can't because I haven't seen him go in college yet but it's a huge leap of faith.

I'm sure it's been posted before but is he working with anyone besides Crablegs? Has he hired a RPO QB coach to get him as close as he can?

What exactly is he doing right now besides throw to HS kids?
 
yes fully aware... so?
he left for same reason, opportunity. We have tons of grads who don't leave their last year. Sorry if you can't understand the analogy.

If you can't understand the difference between a grad transfer leaving for his final season and a redshirt freshman throwing in the towel in the middle of an open QB competition, I can't help you.

Throwing in the towel? If as many suggest, the system has changed to one he's not suited, he's not one of the "coaches guys", the real competition begins until Perry arrives; he's probably feels at this point, it's not a level playing field and it's a foregone conclusion. And I'm almost certain that once the spring practice's completed, Richt at down with each QB gave them a reality check on where they stood.

I don't blame him for moving on and doing a reset while he has time.

You clowns are acting like Rick suddenly installed the triple option.

Allison quit because he couldn't beat out two bums. Get that through your heads. He quit because he didn't want to compete with Rosier and Shirreffs.

This narrative about the system suddenly changing is one being advanced by Allison's stage mom to make it seem like him and his son didn't quit as a RS Freshman in the middle of what should have been a winnable QB battle.

Thank you. Kaaya played in this exact offense last season and compared to him, Allison is Mike Vick. The Allison camp is trying to spin it as "they want a different type of quarterback". That may be the case in the long run but as of right now, there's no way he should have been falling behind two JAGs. It's not like Richt is telling him he has to be some All American, he just has to practice and scrimmage better than two guys who arguably aren't Miami scholarship caliber. He couldn't even do that so he's transferring. Maybe he can succeed in a different type of offense but I guarantee, if he goes to another P5 school, he's going to have to beat out guys better than Rosier and Shirreffs.

Exactly. Rick and every other coach in the world would prefer to have a QB who can kill you with his arm or legs. But right now he'd be ecstatic with a good QB who knows the offense and can move and lead the team.

This fallacy that he's somehow married to having a "running" QB is debunked by the last several QBs he's recruited. Eason is a dropback passer, Perry ran for less than 2 yards per carry as a HS senior, and Sitkowski runs a 5 flat 40. They're all decent athletes who can make a first down with their legs, but they're far from "running" QBs.
 
I don't get the Dee criticism. Seriously, the guy brings more to the board in his few posts than most of the other crap thrown on the wall around here. Busting balls is one thing but anything more is just hating. No insider is going to be 100% right. These are kids.....they are emotional and impulsive. Plus, some information out of programs (through those close to the program or from other players) are assumptions or personal opinions, which when cascaded down through friends, sounds like legit info. You just don't know.

My issue with Dee is more the way he treats guys on the team.

He claims to be (and I don't doubt) a former player who is tight with and has a lot of access to the program. Then he comes on here and talks non-stop **** about guys like Rosier, Redwine, etc. Pretty much saying how much they "suck" and how dare anyone question his evaluation.

Using his access to talk **** behind player's backs is pathetic and childish. Get that dude away from the program asap

At least I'll give you credit for having a legitimate beef. However alot of things in a text forum are "slightly mangled" in context. For instance it's not relevant to me How anyone else views people. I say my two cents which sometimes (granted) may be harsh & sometimes gets carried away by people like the clown posse twisting words from what they mean. Also non stop certainly doesn't apply to me. You have an issue that I express myself and I hold kids to a standard. That's your issue & you're entitled to it. But they are told the same things by their coaches,by their teammates,etc. Even by you all on here who simply won't put a name on it but about play calling rather than execution. That say such and such will transfer out next year because he's not our caliber... so it's cool to have an issue with how you feel I express myself just please don't be one of those dudes who does the same just on the sly...
Unless your birth name is brooklyndee you're doing it on the sly too. You trash players under a made up screen name, so it's funny that you criticize others for doing the same.
 
[MENTION=10043]SWFLSWAGG17[/MENTION]...
Say what you will about Kayya, he had his areas to work on, but if he weren't almost savant like with picking up offense he wouldn't have started.

"Savant like with picking up offense"?

That offense He ran as a freshman was basic as ****, He probably ran a more complex O in HS.

Kaaya is a brilliant kid, so it's very telling that even he could only handle the most basic offense and spent the entire season looking at the sideline before every snap.

I don't know if Perry is as bright as Kaaya, but he's going to have to be **** near genius level with the mental makeup of Joe Montana to run a real offense after a month of practice.

I tend to agree with this. He's gonna have to be a Rain Man mentally to get us the ACC. I'm not saying he can't because I haven't seen him go in college yet but it's a huge leap of faith.

I'm sure it's been posted before but is he working with anyone besides Crablegs? Has he hired a RPO QB coach to get him as close as he can?

What exactly is he doing right now besides throw to HS kids?
He can have all the personal tutoring in the world, but running around in gym shorts against no pass rush with no crowd and no play clock ticking away and no veteran teammates staring at you in the huddle or shooting you daggers on the sideline for fcking up can never replicate real ball.
 
[MENTION=10043]SWFLSWAGG17[/MENTION]...
Say what you will about Kayya, he had his areas to work on, but if he weren't almost savant like with picking up offense he wouldn't have started.

"Savant like with picking up offense"?

That offense He ran as a freshman was basic as ****, He probably ran a more complex O in HS.

Kaaya is a brilliant kid, so it's very telling that even he could only handle the most basic offense and spent the entire season looking at the sideline before every snap.

I don't know if Perry is as bright as Kaaya, but he's going to have to be **** near genius level with the mental makeup of Joe Montana to run a real offense after a month of practice.

I tend to agree with this. He's gonna have to be a Rain Man mentally to get us the ACC. I'm not saying he can't because I haven't seen him go in college yet but it's a huge leap of faith.

I'm sure it's been posted before but is he working with anyone besides Crablegs? Has he hired a RPO QB coach to get him as close as he can?

What exactly is he doing right now besides throw to HS kids?
He can have all the personal tutoring in the world, but running around in gym shorts against no pass rush with no crowd and no play clock ticking away and no veteran teammates staring at you in the huddle or shooting you daggers on the sideline for fcking up can never replicate real ball.

I agree the "balls" factor is what it is.

Either he has it or he doesn't, but just throwing with Crablegs seems minimal at best. There's got to be things that he can be doing erstwhile.
 
[MENTION=129]Canemang[/MENTION] told y'all about brooklyndee but y'all ain't wanna listen

Y'all are blind because u continue to follow blind leaders..... waiting for he excuses but but Allison was the most talented!! Fact is every insider is batting .500 these days

Good move for Allison **** y'all talkin bout

u can ask franchise i been real sus of dude for a long while now

Go make a video about it.lmao you and him can costar on your YouTube classics.... hahaha how's life treating you these days

Lol pretty good

I don't think I have classics yet
 
I don't get the Dee criticism. Seriously, the guy brings more to the board in his few posts than most of the other crap thrown on the wall around here. Busting balls is one thing but anything more is just hating. No insider is going to be 100% right. These are kids.....they are emotional and impulsive. Plus, some information out of programs (through those close to the program or from other players) are assumptions or personal opinions, which when cascaded down through friends, sounds like legit info. You just don't know.

My issue with Dee is more the way he treats guys on the team.

He claims to be (and I don't doubt) a former player who is tight with and has a lot of access to the program. Then he comes on here and talks non-stop **** about guys like Rosier, Redwine, etc. Pretty much saying how much they "suck" and how dare anyone question his evaluation.

Using his access to talk **** behind player's backs is pathetic and childish. Get that dude away from the program asap

At least I'll give you credit for having a legitimate beef. However alot of things in a text forum are "slightly mangled" in context. For instance it's not relevant to me How anyone else views people. I say my two cents which sometimes (granted) may be harsh & sometimes gets carried away by people like the clown posse twisting words from what they mean. Also non stop certainly doesn't apply to me. You have an issue that I express myself and I hold kids to a standard. That's your issue & you're entitled to it. But they are told the same things by their coaches,by their teammates,etc. Even by you all on here who simply won't put a name on it but about play calling rather than execution. That say such and such will transfer out next year because he's not our caliber... so it's cool to have an issue with how you feel I express myself just please don't be one of those dudes who does the same just on the sly...
Unless your birth name is brooklyndee you're doing it on the sly too. You trash players under a made up screen name, so it's funny that you criticize others for doing the same.

Y'all crack me up. The locker room can turn boys to men or men to es real quick. I don't hide behind a screen for anything I do. I'm at each & every game,a good amount of practices when I'm around and I'll always speak my mind. No coward here home boy. Anything I'd say on here I'd say anywhere else too. If someone is playing like **** there held accountable by alot more than just lil old me. No room to be light in the *** here. This is a grown mans sport & at this school you're expected to play to a standard...
 
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If you can't understand the difference between a grad transfer leaving for his final season and a redshirt freshman throwing in the towel in the middle of an open QB competition, I can't help you.

Throwing in the towel? If as many suggest, the system has changed to one he's not suited, he's not one of the "coaches guys", the real competition begins until Perry arrives; he's probably feels at this point, it's not a level playing field and it's a foregone conclusion. And I'm almost certain that once the spring practice's completed, Richt at down with each QB gave them a reality check on where they stood.

I don't blame him for moving on and doing a reset while he has time.

You clowns are acting like Rick suddenly installed the triple option.

Allison quit because he couldn't beat out two bums. Get that through your heads. He quit because he didn't want to compete with Rosier and Shirreffs.

This narrative about the system suddenly changing is one being advanced by Allison's stage mom to make it seem like him and his son didn't quit as a RS Freshman in the middle of what should have been a winnable QB battle.

Thank you. Kaaya played in this exact offense last season and compared to him, Allison is Mike Vick. The Allison camp is trying to spin it as "they want a different type of quarterback". That may be the case in the long run but as of right now, there's no way he should have been falling behind two JAGs. It's not like Richt is telling him he has to be some All American, he just has to practice and scrimmage better than two guys who arguably aren't Miami scholarship caliber. He couldn't even do that so he's transferring. Maybe he can succeed in a different type of offense but I guarantee, if he goes to another P5 school, he's going to have to beat out guys better than Rosier and Shirreffs.

Why was he falling behind if his stats were better and he had the best tools of the group?

If you were at work and you saw other people who weren't accomplishing as much as you and weren't as talented as you, would you stay there if you found a better opportunity?

Because he was a legitimate contender and held to a higher standard. I'm not gonna make excuses for jack. Honestly this just proved along with his inability to pick up on the speed of the game & trusting too much in his arm and not enough on his reeds he's just simply too fragile mentally. He couldn't deal with criticism.
 
Caution: This study was based on extremely flawed data. High school stats are inflated by coaches, competition, and style of play. A kid playing 3A ball in MO isn't the same as what Allison played in Florida, for example.

I did an analytics study of high school QB's last year and I did not find a single QB who went on to have FBS success with as poor of numbers as Allison had in high school.

At the conclusion of the study I thought Allison wouldn't play here because I stay away from outliers. I liked what I saw on tape from the kid, but to believe in him meant believing in a unicorn. Outliers do exist, but you don't get rich relying on them.

The stats for Artur have me worried as well, but he's got a chance to turn it around this season.

Basically, my eyes liked Allison, but my numbers were where my head should've stayed.


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What other types of conclusions do you draw from extremely flawed data?

Im a big fan of shoddy inconclusive data analysis myself, so not knocking the process. Just curious as to what other types of extremely flawed data analysis this journalistic entity will produce in the near future.

Even though you were being a total ***, I laughed at your comment, so I appreciate it.


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Caution: This study was based on extremely flawed data. High school stats are inflated by coaches, competition, and style of play. A kid playing 3A ball in MO isn't the same as what Allison played in Florida, for example.

I did an analytics study of high school QB's last year and I did not find a single QB who went on to have FBS success with as poor of numbers as Allison had in high school.

At the conclusion of the study I thought Allison wouldn't play here because I stay away from outliers. I liked what I saw on tape from the kid, but to believe in him meant believing in a unicorn. Outliers do exist, but you don't get rich relying on them.

The stats for Artur have me worried as well, but he's got a chance to turn it around this season.

Basically, my eyes liked Allison, but my numbers were where my head should've stayed.


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What other types of conclusions do you draw from extremely flawed data?

Im a big fan of shoddy inconclusive data analysis myself, so not knocking the process. Just curious as to what other types of extremely flawed data analysis this journalistic entity will produce in the near future.

Even though you were being a total ***, I laughed at your comment, so I appreciate it.


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Throwing in the towel? If as many suggest, the system has changed to one he's not suited, he's not one of the "coaches guys", the real competition begins until Perry arrives; he's probably feels at this point, it's not a level playing field and it's a foregone conclusion. And I'm almost certain that once the spring practice's completed, Richt at down with each QB gave them a reality check on where they stood.

I don't blame him for moving on and doing a reset while he has time.

You clowns are acting like Rick suddenly installed the triple option.

Allison quit because he couldn't beat out two bums. Get that through your heads. He quit because he didn't want to compete with Rosier and Shirreffs.

This narrative about the system suddenly changing is one being advanced by Allison's stage mom to make it seem like him and his son didn't quit as a RS Freshman in the middle of what should have been a winnable QB battle.

Thank you. Kaaya played in this exact offense last season and compared to him, Allison is Mike Vick. The Allison camp is trying to spin it as "they want a different type of quarterback". That may be the case in the long run but as of right now, there's no way he should have been falling behind two JAGs. It's not like Richt is telling him he has to be some All American, he just has to practice and scrimmage better than two guys who arguably aren't Miami scholarship caliber. He couldn't even do that so he's transferring. Maybe he can succeed in a different type of offense but I guarantee, if he goes to another P5 school, he's going to have to beat out guys better than Rosier and Shirreffs.

Why was he falling behind if his stats were better and he had the best tools of the group?

If you were at work and you saw other people who weren't accomplishing as much as you and weren't as talented as you, would you stay there if you found a better opportunity?

Because he was a legitimate contender and held to a higher standard. I'm not gonna make excuses for jack. Honestly this just proved along with his inability to pick up on the speed of the game & trusting too much in his arm and not enough on his reeds he's just simply too fragile mentally. He couldn't deal with criticism.

I buy that he was held to a higher standard. I didn't see the practices/scrimmages like most people on here so it's really tough to make an assessment based off the pieces of information we receive on here. I know I'd be frustrated to be put behind someone who was held to a lower standard, so I'm not mad at him for leaving. I wish he'd stay, but he has to do what he thinks is best for him.
 
Oh but at @Brooklyndee was all about him just needing time. A Jack vs Perry battle he said. Another whiff.

Wait til he comes back with "it was always the plan for N'kosi to take over".

Wait till your mother admits to you she was a ***** angel "wife" who was traded off multiple times for a kick stand...

Aw is someone a little salty. Take a nap

Nope.not in the least. I'm just anxious for her to admit that to you. Thanks for the idea though buddy.

Yes you are. No weak minded grown man would make a "I ****ed your mom" comment. You just shown how b*tch made you are.
 
Wait til he comes back with "it was always the plan for N'kosi to take over".

Wait till your mother admits to you she was a ***** angel "wife" who was traded off multiple times for a kick stand...

Aw is someone a little salty. Take a nap

Nope.not in the least. I'm just anxious for her to admit that to you. Thanks for the idea though buddy.

Yes you are. No weak minded grown man would make a "I ****ed your mom" comment. You just shown how b*tch made you are.

Who, me? I've never ****ed your mother. But I did stay at a holiday inn express...

P.s. no grown man would bring up complete strangers names who have no bearing on their lives so often either...
 
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I don't get the Dee criticism. Seriously, the guy brings more to the board in his few posts than most of the other crap thrown on the wall around here. Busting balls is one thing but anything more is just hating. No insider is going to be 100% right. These are kids.....they are emotional and impulsive. Plus, some information out of programs (through those close to the program or from other players) are assumptions or personal opinions, which when cascaded down through friends, sounds like legit info. You just don't know.

My issue with Dee is more the way he treats guys on the team.

He claims to be (and I don't doubt) a former player who is tight with and has a lot of access to the program. Then he comes on here and talks non-stop **** about guys like Rosier, Redwine, etc. Pretty much saying how much they "suck" and how dare anyone question his evaluation.

Using his access to talk **** behind player's backs is pathetic and childish. Get that dude away from the program asap

At least I'll give you credit for having a legitimate beef. However alot of things in a text forum are "slightly mangled" in context. For instance it's not relevant to me How anyone else views people. I say my two cents which sometimes (granted) may be harsh & sometimes gets carried away by people like the clown posse twisting words from what they mean. Also non stop certainly doesn't apply to me. You have an issue that I express myself and I hold kids to a standard. That's your issue & you're entitled to it. But they are told the same things by their coaches,by their teammates,etc. Even by you all on here who simply won't put a name on it but about play calling rather than execution. That say such and such will transfer out next year because he's not our caliber... so it's cool to have an issue with how you feel I express myself just please don't be one of those dudes who does the same just on the sly...
Unless your birth name is brooklyndee you're doing it on the sly too. You trash players under a made up screen name, so it's funny that you criticize others for doing the same.

Y'all crack me up. The locker room can turn boys to men or men to es real quick. I don't hide behind a screen for anything I do. I'm at each & every game,a good amount of practices when I'm around and I'll always speak my mind. No coward here home boy. Anything I'd say on here I'd say anywhere else too. If someone is playing like **** there held accountable by alot more than just lil old me. No room to be light in the *** here. This is a grown mans sport & at this school you're expected to play to a standard...

If you're not hiding behind a screen name then why won't you tell anyone your real name on here? You're beating your chest about separating the men from the boys and all that, yet you cling to your anonymity on here like a vulture.

You're smart to protect your anonymity so vigorously with all the outrageous **** you say about the players on here. The hypocrisy of calling others out for doing the same thing you're doing is funny though. You always make me laugh so I love you for that.
 
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Do you disagree with my actual point that picking up enough of the offense to competently start week 1 is not a foregone conclusion no matter how great his physical tools meet be? [MENTION=5939]CaneSince4Ever[/MENTION]

Oh I agree with the jist of your original post...although I've read Richt praise His physical skills, I've also read where Richt said He wants Him to get the playbook down first & foremost. He also said He could use Him in a 2 QB system (think Greene & Shockley), or He can RS. None of this "I'm gonna hand Perry the keys" like some are saying on here...don't know where they're getting that from. Until Richt says I'm gonna hand Him the keys, then I'll go with it.
 
Wait till your mother admits to you she was a ***** angel "wife" who was traded off multiple times for a kick stand...

Aw is someone a little salty. Take a nap

Nope.not in the least. I'm just anxious for her to admit that to you. Thanks for the idea though buddy.

Yes you are. No weak minded grown man would make a "I ****ed your mom" comment. You just shown how b*tch made you are.

Who, me? I've never ****ed your mother. But I did stay at a holiday inn express...

P.s. no grown man would bring up complete strangers names who have no bearing on their lives so often either...

You bring it on yourself when you come on this board as an "insider" and make up these ludicrous tidbits and when your wrong you get butthurt. Stop acting like a baby because people call you out on BS.
 
Wait till your mother admits to you she was a ***** angel "wife" who was traded off multiple times for a kick stand...

Aw is someone a little salty. Take a nap

Nope.not in the least. I'm just anxious for her to admit that to you. Thanks for the idea though buddy.

Yes you are. No weak minded grown man would make a "I ****ed your mom" comment. You just shown how b*tch made you are.

Who, me? I've never ****ed your mother. But I did stay at a holiday inn express...

P.s. no grown man would bring up complete strangers names who have no bearing on their lives so often either...

We finally found the one guy who hasn't.
 
You clowns are acting like Rick suddenly installed the triple option.

Allison quit because he couldn't beat out two bums. Get that through your heads. He quit because he didn't want to compete with Rosier and Shirreffs.

This narrative about the system suddenly changing is one being advanced by Allison's stage mom to make it seem like him and his son didn't quit as a RS Freshman in the middle of what should have been a winnable QB battle.

Thank you. Kaaya played in this exact offense last season and compared to him, Allison is Mike Vick. The Allison camp is trying to spin it as "they want a different type of quarterback". That may be the case in the long run but as of right now, there's no way he should have been falling behind two JAGs. It's not like Richt is telling him he has to be some All American, he just has to practice and scrimmage better than two guys who arguably aren't Miami scholarship caliber. He couldn't even do that so he's transferring. Maybe he can succeed in a different type of offense but I guarantee, if he goes to another P5 school, he's going to have to beat out guys better than Rosier and Shirreffs.

Why was he falling behind if his stats were better and he had the best tools of the group?

If you were at work and you saw other people who weren't accomplishing as much as you and weren't as talented as you, would you stay there if you found a better opportunity?

His stats in the last scrimmage were better because unlike Rosier and Shirreffs, he was going against the second and third team defense. I don't care what "tools" he has, the coaching staff has him ranked a clear third on the current roster. Behind two guys who really don't have any business being being first string P5 quarterbacks. Maybe an FCS school will offer less competition.

That doesn't answer the question as to why he was behind.

The head coach saying "Jack Allison is third string" doesn't mean he's behind the first and second string guys? Come on man. When the spring started, Richt said it was an open quarterback competition and every one would be given a shot. At the end of spring, Richt said Shirreffs and Rosier were co-number ones. That mean Jack Allison had fallen to at least #3 on the depth chart.
 
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