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A note on Portal QBs
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Other than for the forgiveness of my sins, the health of our starting QB is my prayer life.
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This portal QB class right here are any of them high enough tier that you legit have a reason to feel confident that they're ready right now and can carry us throughout a season of turnover? Seems to me they're all developmental themselves. Say what you want about each of those QBs other than sayin(who wasn't really a transfer) on that list but all of them were developed previous to the school they ended up going to and finding success. Maybe you can say nix went to a whole other level in his game. But the rest you already knew who they were and better talent and coaching made that click. All the dudes were talking about now still have to be developed themselves on a team with a oc who isn't developing his QBs. He's calling plays.
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I called him Cuban Emory for like 2 hours, watched some tape, apologized and said he was the guy.
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But he was though. You think Bama is sitting there thinking that investment recruiting a top HS QB paid off or not given that he left within a month of them securing him? Sure you can say without HC change that wouldn't have happened. But isn't it also a sign that you can win portal recruiting with others losing their HC that you can take advantage of. Same with Dante Moore. They got him and he sat a year... So sure you can say They were ultimatley the ones that developed him. But also you didn't waste all those resources out of HS when he was never gunna play... Still a better ROI
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The original question implied that Cam and Beck succeeded here strictly because of “supporting cast” and they didn’t get “coached” here but somehow Mendoza is the product of great coaching at Indiana.. doesn’t make sense .. If the coaches get credit at Indiana for Indiana then so should Miami for Cam & Beck
I really hope Mario adds a dedicated QB coach once the season is over. If SD really doesn’t do anything more than call plays and coach guys who are already finished products, it’s no wonder we don’t really have a viable young guy on campus.
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His schtick is top to bottom the whole team enchilada.
If memory serves, he's from a football coaching family. While he was primarily focused on QBs as a corch, he was never an O/D coordinator, but was recruiting coordinator at several stops...went from Bama to lower tier HC positions for years, finally getting a shot at lowly Indiana.
He preaches execution perfection at every position and from what I've read is heavily involved in that approach.
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JFC,.. thank you I have been saying this for months. Any guy we bring will need to be coached up. They have a skill set but need work at refining it and improving footwork and release. Cam and Beck pretty much were finished products and were plugged into Dawsons system or had it adapted. Having a Dedicated QB guy helps the portal guys and the recruits. I mean why recruit it your not going to coach them up. If we have JT there for the DL. We sure as s**t should have it for the QB’s
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Well you're wrong, and that's ok.
Frustrating that recruits from last 2-3 classes aren’t ready to step in. That said, none of these guys were big-time, can’t miss recruits. Projects at best. Nickle is a year in the program & probably highest ranked recruit, so time will tell. But there was no assumption he’d be the answer as a true freshman. Played in a successful system surrounded by talent at Milton & never got a look by UGA, despite his coach having a connection to Kirby. Dawson or a designated QB coach aren’t turning water to wine.
I mean, we could try.....if we want to just give up on next year.
Yeah, he really played his way out of that during the Louisville game. I still just think Brohm summoned everything he could, offensively and defensively, to try to ruin our season.
Ohio state recruited him too. That’s why he was set to slide so easily. No one really worries about the money involved in the recruiting. It’s the NIL that makes them not usually worth the first year investment.
My point was that he spent no time with another team and joined OSU right out of high school. Presumably that paid his NIL ask because he wasn’t changing for free. It’s pretty obvious that he would have been a take there on signing day since he was brought in less than 30 days later.
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Didn’t Ward arrive here with a number of important deficiencies that generally he overcame ?
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yes, but I'm just saying the NIL aspect.... if that was today He'd have been getting paid through HS and likely received a check when he signed, right? That's money down the drain. I agree with your point. but to me it's not really disproving the portal strategy either. Because I could look at it from OSUs perspective as it was absolutely better for them to get him throught the portal than had him committed all year technically... And that's a more unique case. If we get a more reasonable case of like Dante Moore where technically Oregon still developed him, it's obvious it was better. he went got a year of experience then portalled in...
I fully own up to that. I only saw him once, in our game vs Cal, and I did not want.