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A note on high school QBs...

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Its not the high school QBs are bad, its just that you wont have the time for them to sit if they are expensive are afforded years for them to take lumps on the field when other plays may transfer.
 
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Which one of you are Timothy Johnson?
 
I think our model is a good one. But I just have a question.
How much developing are we actually doing with the backups like Nickel or even Judd? From what I hear, they hardly get any practice reps during the season. Which makes sense. And how does Dawson balance being the coordinator vs developing kids who won’t see the field that season?

I wonder if it would be worth it to have a dedicated qb coach that works with the kids that won’t be playing that year and gets them ready to truly audition in the offseason for the backup role?
 
Well, I am pleased to say we have a staff trying to win NC's here so those who know, know. With some players not entering the draft that were expected to earlier this season and the TR FR that have stepped up, I think we have a good shot at the playoffs again next season. 2 losses in the ACC is borderline, missing the playoffs. We are trying to win NC's.
 
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LuCane said:
There are also certain things that are difficult to clean up. I don’t know what specifically Meyer saw as a disaster, but Burrow’s release wasn’t that wild. His footwork may have been out of whack. Before we played him (at LSU), I wrote a post about him here and was really impressed with his delivery and accuracy in the OSU spring game. So, they cleaned it all up very quickly. Almost magically.

In short, I dont know if it’s that easy to just ‘coach up’ an entirely new set of mechanics from the ground up.

I’m actually surprised CJ Bailey’s compacted his release (which sometimes still gets long)as much as he has. It was outrageous in HS. That’s usually a flaw stuck with the QB forever. Like a bad hitch in a jumpshot.
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I think private QB coaching has really set off. The amount of QBs in ******* HS working with coaches who work with NFL QBs is extremely and just appears to increase as time goes on.
 
rascon said:
I think our model is a good one. But I just have a question.
How much developing are we actually doing with the backups like Nickel or even Judd? From what I hear, they hardly get any practice reps during the season. Which makes sense. And how does Dawson balance being the coordinator vs developing kids who won’t see the field that season?

I wonder if it would be worth it to have a dedicated qb coach that works with the kids that won’t be playing that year and gets them ready to truly audition in the offseason for the backup role?
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Scrimmages for players who don't play in the games (typically on Sunday). Throwing groups with receivers who don't typically play. Hopefully they're doing VR on their own.

Film sessions with assistants. Workouts catered to their positions with S&C (even if assistant).

Every position has developmental guardrails in place for players to grow. Admittedly, it is more difficult for scout players to develop, but there are opportunities.
 
I'm willing to bet there's some heavy overlap on the ol' Venn diagram with the screaming of "No moar portal rentals at QB! ReCRuIT aND dEVeloP high school kids!" with the old narrative of "We'll NEVER actually be able to hang money-wise with the big boys in the NIL era!"

The inability of some to take the L on the latter now fuels new idiocy with the former. And especially so when they now want to (over)spend money they predicted we'd never have in a moronic manner on unproven high school QBs.

But disirregardless I digress. I'm new around here and just wanted to say I'm really enjoying the site. Looking forward to potentially meeting some of you in the Blue Lot.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
And we won’t have to overpay for that multi year starter we developed from the HS ranks? Not following the logic there.
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You won't have to overpay, EVERY year. The thought here is that you can get a couple of good years off a guy at a decent rate.

Not have to overpay to land one of the few good arms that gives you a chance kind of deal. Everyone is wanting that and its an expensive game of roulette to play on a yearly basis.
 
DMoney said:
I don't know. I think the only solution is constantly searching for affordable HS arms and hoping one hits.

In my opinion, our HS quarterback recruiting should be all about ceiling. Get big, multisport kids with good arms and good character, even if their fundamentals stink. A low floor is fine because we can always grab someone from the Portal.

The most overrated thing in high school scouting is technique. According to Urban Meyer, Joe Burrow was a disaster when he first got to Columbus. He had spent so much of his time playing basketball that he was behind in football. But he also had way more upside to grow. That's what coaches are for.
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I'm assuming that HS QB recruits understand that this is the business now
 
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AlexCane said:
I understand what you're trying to say, but you're missing my point. I'm all for upgrading talent. I don't care what Nickel has shown in practice, a guy like Leavitt or Sorsby is an upgrade over Nickel because those 2 have demonstrated production at a high level. But if you upgrade, you risk losing a Nickel. So for 1 year of a proven starter, you're losing 3, 4 years of production perhaps.
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Upgrade. Luke isn’t ready today. Don’t care about year 3 or 4. Win today. College football is no longer the same game it was 5 years ago.

Edit: The bigger question should be why is Dawson and staff struggling to identify talent and ******* develop them? Everyone knew Emory and Judd were not the solution to a championship then why did we go that route? There were many better options at the time. Fast forward several years later and we are hyping up Bailey, for example.
 
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AlexCane said:
@DMoney How do the Canes--or any team really--keep the QBs on the roster while also looking to see whether there is a transfer portal QB that fits? In other words, how do they keep Nickel happy while looking around this offseason?
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Who gives a **** about nickel or any quarterback on the roster if they’re not good enough to start. Do you think the coaches are gonna go into the portal if they know they have the guy in house? Come on man.
 
Dwinstitles said:
The staff will do portal qbs until they know someone they recruited is a dude. That **** simple, it’s not a difficult concept to process if you use your brain. And they don’t know if a hs qb is a dude until he does it in practice. Not some bs practise reporting that everyone is doing well talk
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FACTS!!
 
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