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How is Mesidors' draft stock improving? What's his ceiling?

He's gotta be getting close to it.
 
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CreamCityCane said:
Without cheating: RB Blake Corum, WR Roman Wilson, and TE Colston Loveland. Donovan Edwards was the backup RB who started in 2022 when Corum was hurt. I think all of those guys made the NFL, though we'll see who sticks around.

Cheating: WR Cornelius Johnson is in NFL but Id have never pulled that name. TE AJ Barner is TE starting ahead of Elijah Arroyo in SEA.

I take your point though, a handful of fringe NFL skill guys is pretty underwhelming for a national championship roster.
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CreamCityCane said:
Without cheating: RB Blake Corum, WR Roman Wilson, and TE Colston Loveland. Donovan Edwards was the backup RB who started in 2022 when Corum was hurt. I think all of those guys made the NFL, though we'll see who sticks around.

Cheating: WR Cornelius Johnson is in NFL but Id have never pulled that name. TE AJ Barner is TE starting ahead of Elijah Arroyo in SEA.

I take your point though, a handful of fringe NFL skill guys is pretty underwhelming for a national championship roster.
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They had a 1st RD QB, 1st RD TE, 3rd RD RB, 3rd RD WR, 4th RD TE. It doesn't matter what those guys do in the NFL, they had a ton of NFL talent on offense.
 
AtlAtty said:
This is a great point and completely overlooked. We play at a slow pace, which likely will reduce our offensive numbers as it reduced possessions. But the flip side is that the defense plays fewer snaps. And if they can create 3 and outs, they will play very few snaps.

What was the number against UF? 52? That is an incredibly low number and one that every defensive player should be able to handle.
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Something I didn’t think about before reading your post… Could we have possibly slowed the offense down to give our defense a rest? No 3rd down conversion for the whole game with only one drive worth talking about. If we went up tempo on O we would’ve put our defense in a totally different position. Our offensive pace for this game very much impacted our defense being able to do what they did.
 
Mesidor was really our best defensive lineman before Bain came in, remember he got hurt Bain’s Freshman year, I think he’s finally 100 percent, Bain has gotten back to 100 percent as well, together healthy they’re the perfect storm
 
FuriousStyles said:
Something I didn’t think about before reading your post… Could we have possibly slowed the offense down to give our defense a rest? No 3rd down conversion for the whole game with only one drive worth talking about. If we went up tempo on O we would’ve put our defense in a totally different position. Our offensive pace for this game very much impacted our defense being able to do what they did.
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I absolutely think Mario/Dawson/Hetherman have made a decision about offensive pace and how it impacts the defense. I would argue this is the definition of complimentary football.
And it may be a reaction (or over reaction) to last season wherein we scored so quickly that the defense was gassed by the second half of every game.
 
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Mesidor has real deal NFL tape this year at multiple alignments and gaps.

Busts a RT with a dip n rip with a chip to get to a QB. Next play, inside move getting skinny pressuring against a LG. Wide stance next play and puts a LT on skates. RT on the next play and loops in past the guards far shoulder for the pressure.

Just a wild man out there.
 
STG said:
They had a 1st RD QB, 1st RD TE, 3rd RD RB, 3rd RD WR, 4th RD TE. It doesn't matter what those guys do in the NFL, they had a ton of NFL talent on offense.
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We may not be far enough from this in the next draft. At a minimum we should have a 1st round DE and OT. Mesidor, Bell, Bissainthe, Scott, Daniels, and a few more have legit shots at being drafted.

My point only was that Michigan’s offensive talent was ot overwhelming in comparison, and they had a really good defense.
 
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JHallCanes said:
MVPs of the game last night

Fans get enamored with sacks (pause) but Bain probably had the best 4 tackle 0 sack 0 TFL game in college football history last night
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Last night, Bain had the second most pressures anybody has had in a game this year**





**i think I read that right lol
 
LuCane said:
And not a single hold call anywhere to be seen. I’d love to sit in on the ref’s review of that bull****.
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Reminds me of Jerry Kramer's book where he'd admit to basically having to hold Alex Karras on every play becaase he was such a terror (w/Jerry assuming the refs wouldnt have the audacity to call it every time let alone more than once or twice a game).
 
Manfred_Cane said:
Last night, Bain had the second most pressures anybody has had in a game this year**





**i think I read that right lol
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And not a single hold

I’m not a penalty conspiracy theorist normally but sure felt like the refs were trying to keep FSU in the game probably so their win over Alabama wouldn’t look so bad for Bama
 
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JHallCanes said:
MVPs of the game last night

Fans get enamored with sacks (pause) but Bain probably had the best 4 tackle 0 sack 0 TFL game in college football history last night
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They will shut up when Bain gets that inevitable 3 sack game here soon. That little midget is a tough guy to sack but he will still have nightmares of 4 coming at him for weeks.
 
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