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We all just accept that the big schools have so much more money than UM… have u ever looked into that?
We all just accept that the big schools have so much more money than UM… have u ever looked into that?
it'll be an up and comer imo for 4. if you're gonna poach someone who's proven their worth it'll take 5 plus to get them to leave imo and beating out other schools.
also it doesn't matter what they were then, we don't hit on up and comers. if we did then diff story (also salaries when Nick was hired by Bama are far diff than they are now). he was a top dollar candidate then to leave the fins. Day was an internal hire. Dabo internal hire. Mullen came into UF in a diff world salary wise than the other guys did. also wouldn't call Ed O quality lol. hes lucky Brady was there to rescue him
Yeah, I agree w/ ur Saban comment, but interesting to note, when he was hired, his salary was I believe the 8th highest back in 2007. Again, even then, he only commanded that b/c he was already under a NFL contract + what he accomplished while at LSU.
But, I’m w/ u, and I’m been saying this; hiring an established P5 coach is a pipe dream, unless u want to pony up $6 - $7m. We’ll probably be going the G5 route. However, I will say that in the case of both Clemson & OSU, they were clearly smarter than us. The contracts of both Dabo & Day were “prove it” contracts for their internal hires. If imma be frank, seeing their contracts w/ incentives, ****ed me off thinking bout Diaz’s contract.
Between cost of living adjustments for the valley and CA taxes shaw making significantly less it seemsI always wondered why Jim is not getting paid more at Mich.
David Shaw - Wow...good for you bro...get yours.
Steve - that's all you could get from Texas?
Luke Fickell - about to double his salary
Gus Malzahn - available for cheap---Probably number one on Miami's list. just saying.
Manny - they are listing your near future salary.
LoL, because the university does not have an academic operating budget? Good lord, it is a different fund of money. Miami could accept more students but they try to keep class sizes around 10 to 12 students. This is the advantage of a private institution. Smaller class sizes and more intimacy with your department professors, etc. My son knows everybody in the engineering school and they know him.
We all just accept that the big schools have so much more money than UM… have u ever looked into that?
I’m a CPA, trust me bro, I know fund accounting and how non-profits and municipalities and schools handle their books.
The point is, and has been sited 100 times on this board, when Bama brought in Saban and they started winning, enrollment went up. When Miami was crushing it 20 years ago enrollment went up.
The marginal difference of $2mm for a strong HC will pay for itself when the team would in theory start producing at a level commensurate with its talent.
I’m a CPA, trust me bro, I know fund accounting and how non-profits and municipalities and schools handle their books.
The point is, and has been sited 100 times on this board, when Bama brought in Saban and they started winning, enrollment went up. When Miami was crushing it 20 years ago enrollment went up.
The marginal difference of $2mm for a strong HC will pay for itself when the team would in theory start producing at a level commensurate with its talent.
You can be frank. Too bad you’re not frenk.Yeah, I agree w/ ur Saban comment, but interesting to note, when he was hired, his salary was I believe the 8th highest back in 2007. Again, even then, he only commanded that b/c he was already under a NFL contract + what he accomplished while at LSU.
But, I’m w/ u, and I’m been saying this; hiring an established P5 coach is a pipe dream, unless u want to pony up $6 - $7m. We’ll probably be going the G5 route. However, I will say that in the case of both Clemson & OSU, they were clearly smarter than us. The contracts of both Dabo & Day were “prove it” contracts for their internal hires. If imma be frank, seeing their contracts w/ incentives, ****ed me off thinking bout Diaz’s contract.
You keep saying this, but the numbers indicate otherwise. I know our fans think that Miami can just dip into the general fund and spend on football, but that isn't nor shouldn't be the case. If a donor is willing to step up, that's one thing, but barring that, Miami does have to work within a budget. The problem is that we have a garbage AD that fails to maximize the resources Miami does have. Miami can have Bill Clark or Napier for the amount they are paying Manny. That's a failure of leadership. If you are going to not be able to merely throw money at an issue, you have to make hires with good success probabilities. Manny wasn't that guy.They absolutely have the money, the BOT just has to decide to actually spend it.
But make no mistake about it, they got the money...
Look 3 posts up, the actual numbers are there in the IRS filings.You keep saying this, but the numbers indicate otherwise. I know our fans think that Miami can just dip into the general fund and spend on football, but that isn't nor shouldn't be the case. If a donor is willing to step up, that's one thing, but barring that, Miami does have to work within a budget. The problem is that we have a garbage AD that fails to maximize the resources Miami does have. Miami can have Bill Clark or Napier for the amount they are paying Manny. That's a failure of leadership. If you are going to not be able to merely throw money at an issue, you have to make hires with good success probabilities. Manny wasn't that guy.
There are dumb ideas and there's this. You really think that the academic side would be cool with admitting some kids and every dime of it goes to the football program? Never mind the possible illegality of saying something is for tuition and you are using those funds to pay a football coach.Pretty shameful that a university with $5b in revenues, a number that exceeds a lot of supposedly wealthier schools, won’t invest $10m in itself.
And you dont understand how REVENUE works. Again, the University of Miami draws in funds, but they are going to reinvest it into important things, LIKE THE ACTUAL UNIVERSITY ITSELF. A large bulk of that revenue goes right back out the door to the med school and to capital improvements.Look 3 posts up, the actual numbers are there in the IRS filings.
The classes are a little bigger.when I was there, it was about 2000 kids a class (total entering freshman). think UM likes to keep it around that per class. not sure if it changed at all since then
Am I getting punk’d? Where you at Ashton Kutcher!Yes I did.
He no longer has Drew Brees and has Jameis Winston as his QB as well as having a ****load of money tied up with Taysom Hill.
He's from the Parcells coaching tree who obviously loves south FL and maybe he wants a different challenge.
LolThere are dumb ideas and there's this. You really think that the academic side would be cool with admitting some kids and every dime of it goes to the football program? Never mind the possible illegality of saying something is for tuition and you are using those funds to pay a football coach.
Most schools aren't spending money out of their general fund on sports. Donors, ticket, apparel and tv revenues are what pays the bills. Guess what, Miami may have pulled in 4 billion, but most of that was the med school and they rightfully want what they brought in back, so they can continue to grow and be world class. I've said it once and I'll say it again: Football can do great things, but the day Miami becomes a jock school, where every decision is based on helping the program is the day the University dies. There's a reason why there are few if any private schools are managed in the way you propose.
And you don’t understand simple BUSINESS concepts. You’re a blowhard.And you dont understand how REVENUE works. Again, the University of Miami draws in funds, but they are going to reinvest it into important things, LIKE THE ACTUAL UNIVERSITY ITSELF. A large bulk of that revenue goes right back out the door to the med school and to capital improvements.
You didn’t even read the Form 990. Lol I love when dudes get all emotional about things they haven’t even bothered to look at.There are dumb ideas and there's this. You really think that the academic side would be cool with admitting some kids and every dime of it goes to the football program? Never mind the possible illegality of saying something is for tuition and you are using those funds to pay a football coach.
Most schools aren't spending money out of their general fund on sports. Donors, ticket, apparel and tv revenues are what pays the bills. Guess what, Miami may have pulled in 4 billion, but most of that was the med school and they rightfully want what they brought in back, so they can continue to grow and be world class. I've said it once and I'll say it again: Football can do great things, but the day Miami becomes a jock school, where every decision is based on helping the program is the day the University dies. There's a reason why there are few if any private schools are managed in the way you propose.
The first rule of sales is ... if you don't ask you'll never know.Am I getting punk’d? Where you at Ashton Kutcher!
Brother….I hate to break it to you but Sean Payton is not coming here.