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“Gattis sucks!”

cway313 said:
I typically stop responding once a person shows the limit of their intellect. This is actually humiliating, so I want you to continue. I think at some point you may have a breakthrough.
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JHallCanes said:
Don’t get me wrong I was about a big a TVD fan as you could find at the time. But when people were talking Heisman I’m like aye we should pump the brakes a little bit

Still never envisioned him being this bad though that’s for sure
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The signs were there last year. There was no way coaching could be that bad. Some of it had to be on him. I remember fans laughing and me included when fsu fans were saying Jordan was better after like one game. Then a few games later I was like they may be right lol. Now he is a way better cfb qb. He just decides where to go and does it fast and he can improvise. In year one I hated the way TVD deep balls looked (pause) the wr had to slow down or wait like that **** was a punt return lol.

I’m like yea he throws it far but that **** takes forever. It was probably more of him being late now that I realize it. Recipe for disaster when the qb is late countless times. And improvising with your legs early in your career can build hella confidence. You feel like you have time. Your getting valuable seconds of reps while the game is moving full speed whereas if you a statue you have 3-4 seconds of live action. Where a DT can get 7-8 seconds then it can click. That’s a super valuable thing that no one even notices.
 
I said this last November during The Great Gattis Wars

BoxingRobes said:
...but to move on to the next chapter, removing Gattis is only going to change so much. That is a long standing tradition here at CanesInsight dot com...corches corches corches...but nothing ever changes. We are going to be 5-7 or 6-6 at the end of the regular season this year without generating big plays at all. We were 7-5 last season generating big plays. I'm not sure about you, but 5-7, 6-6, 7-5 is basically shopping in the same aisle in college football.

So, next year, where do the big plays come in? You can ditch Gattis and bring back everyone's favorite, Rhett Lashlee and I am not sure where there will be a big improvement in team wins. New playcaller is nice, but players are necessary.

From 2021 to 2022, we lost 48% of our receiving yards, 43% of our receiving touchdowns, 42% of rushing yards, 40% of our rushing TDs.

If things hold against Pitt...we essentially will have a total offensive output that - oddly enough - will be 45% lower than last year. 30% reduction in scoring offense. Again, part of that is on Gattis and the playcalling, but there is literally no one on this roster that has even attempted to replace those numbers. "Next Man Up!"...they didn't show up this year. And this roster had to replace a bunch of undrafted free agents that shouldered the load of that 45% (Rambo, Harley, Harris). So, imagine the dudes behind them (you've already seen them).

So, moving on to next season...who even steps up to replace those guys.

This is something @Coach Macho and others have discussed before...but since this is yet another thread on the same topic...it needs to be re-stated. You can replace Gattis with whoever you want. But if we are still trotting out what we've got or fail to get better players...this thing doesn't get better any time soon.
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Funny enough, we have 4 new starters on the OL and one with a position switch - but the theme is the OL is massive and athletic...and I think we would all agree...improved unit and one of the strengths of the team.

We added Mark Fletcher, Ajay Allen, and Chris Johnson to the RB Room.

We went from 95th in rush ypg and ypa in 2022 on 34 carries per game to 40th in ypg and 16th in ypa (!!!!) in 2023.

See what happens when you add a lot of new, better players?

Now, lets look at the rest of the offense, because, you're still trotting out the same cast of characters for the most part. Tyler Van Dyke and Co.

2023.
42nd in ypg (261ypg), 44th in ypa (7.8) on 34 apg*
52nd in explosive (20+ yards) passing plays.
119th in passing turnovers
*Tyler Van Dyke is at 8.2ypa and 257ypa


2022.
60th in ypg (239ypg), 83rd in ypa (6.9)*
101st in explosive (20+ yards) passing plays.
85th in passing turnovers
*Tyler Van Dyke was at 7.3ypa and 203ypg (246 when you take out the FSU and Pitt games, which you should)

Change the playcaller, OL, and run game...big improvement.
Change the playcaller, same QB, most of the same weapons...mild improvement in raw and average yards and uptick in explosive plays, but QB turns the ball over at literally T-dead last in the Power 5. Other teams with as many passing turnovers in the P5 Vandy, Texas Tech, UCLA, and UVA...all are worst in the nation in the P5.

You all can continue your referendums on Mario Cristobal. I don't care. Have at it. We need better players, thats on him, and thats what he is supposed to be doing so far - and we've seen it on the OL, RB room, and on defense (also, new coordinator and new players and massive upgrades, but this not a thread for that). But it is pretty obvious what the gameday bottleneck on offense is to me. Perhaps you see it, too.
 
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Bender said:
Cool, Queen Elizabeth was around since the 1930s, she was still a scumbag.

All I know now is you're an old bag with little clue, so again, theres the door.
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Geez, Bender.

Love you man but you are young buck gullible 😂😂.

You’ve been doing the same thing this year with TVD and Dawson.
 
BJCHeel said:
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2022 College Football Team Talent Composite

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247 talent composite. Miami: 13th. Michigan: 14th.

I wouldn't normally mock a poster for just blatantly making stuff up like this because you assume it, but given your consistent pretentiousness and toxicity in this thread towards anyone who disagrees with you, I made this account solely to call you out on this BS.

Gattis was shadow demoted and had his playcalling removed in favor of a pistol heavy gap scheme last year. Michigan's offensive rankings per FEI by year:

2018 (pre-Gattis): 15th
2019: 26th
2020: 31st
2021 (shadow demotion Gattis): 5th

Gattis isn't some terrible, incompetent OC who'll tank seasons. But he just ain't it. He won't adjust scheme to fit, he won't stop using insanely slow developing 2 or 3 man routes all game that have a 5% chance of getting open before pressure, he won't adjust his running scheme if it's not working. He's just incredibly mediocre.
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Only post ever on this site.

I wonder who his this was that had some insight and never posted again.
 
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What's the one consistent from last year and this year? It's not the OC, or the QB or the offensive line or even the receivers. It's the person nobody wants to blame.

Don't worry maybe next year we can hire another OC, totally neuter him so we can play the head coach's preferred style and maybe win 8 games if we luck out.
 
hoops156 said:
funny that lashlee still gets hated but we now look fondly on gattis even tho multiple UM legends told us to not hire him
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People hating Lashlee but loving Gattis are either obvious trolls or *** for gattis or both.
 
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