Upon Further Review: Savannah State

Upon Further Review: Savannah State

Lance Roffers
Lance Roffers

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Love how the second team OL comes in and everyone does their job except barf milo. Guys absolute garbage. Look at the highlights tho. Looks like Scaife was doing good work albeit against a tired Sav State d
 
OL is terrible. I know we can’t afford a top ol coach but we gotta make a change

If this program has any illusions of ever rejoining the college football elite then we better figure out how to afford one really quick
 
Give Mccloud credit too like hurricane vision said he played well in this game as well as vs LSU. He’s been better than Pinckney so far this year
 
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Great write up, thanks for all your work. The OL is obviously a real concern for this team, depressing to read. Also disappointed in Ford's play, I was hoping he would develop into a monster DT, he's just not very good at this point. We are real bad at that position this year, next year is setting up to be even worse when Willis leaves. Nesta can't do it by himself.
 
Awesome write up, that took time and effort an we appreciate that - great work!!!

Mahoney may know what to do mentally, but kid sucks in his execution. I took a peek at our OL play last year, and it was way better, with guys that didn't make it into the NFL. The difference is they had plenty of experience in the scheme. Also, we're looking shaky because of the fact that Donaldson and St Louis aren't comfortable in their new positions...

We rolled the dice on a hypothetical and made the switch in positions for both players (St Louis & Donaldson); and tanked on that gamble. They may get better down the line, but we need solid play now, or we'll lose some games we aren't supposed to, until they get better around week 6-7.

If we're going to roll the dice, I'd roll it on some fundamental stuff like the following... Hear me out...though Boulware is smallish, He clearly has the quickest feet, and based on that, and the above, I wouldn't mind us going with this lineup:

RT: St Louis/Hillery/Herbert
RG: Donaldson/ Campbell
C: Gaynor/Dykstra
LG: Gauthier/Reed
LT: Boulware/Scaife

Quick feet & agility matters at the Tackle position, next comes comfortability & knowing what to do... I you dont have quick feet, you can't adjust & recover when a guy gets a beat on you with a different angle - again quick fee = Boulware.

We gotta end the project of converting St Louis into a LT, and help the guy get drafted in a decent round, instead of stinking it up on film at a high value position altogether. St Louis is capable, but his career has been at RT, and we took that away from him.

We need solid Top 10 play on at least one side of the ball, which is why I also think it makes sense to line him and Donaldson up together again, to repeat last year's raporrt there. Next, of all the guys that rotated in, Gaynor looked stout, and Center is a serviceable position so I'd plug him there, which will allow Gauthier to play some Guard, of whom is stout himself, which allows him to continue making calls at the line where we've had some breakdowns on the left side which means we're putting an experienced LG next to Boulware to help him out.

The young guys I mentioned at 2nd string will be guys of the future that need to get into the rotation now, so we don't look even worse next year.

My two cents... Go Canes!
 
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Tremendous insight, as usual.

Gaynor will miss blocks because his feet aren’t great, but when he hits people they move back. Couple that with the mentality he brings to the field, I’ll take the trade off.

Also, it is starting to seem inevitable that Scaife gets reps at RT and Donaldson starts working inside.
 
Tremendous insight, as usual.

Gaynor will miss blocks because his feet aren’t great, but when he hits people they move back. Couple that with the mentality he brings to the field, I’ll take the trade off.

Also, it is starting to seem inevitable that Scaife gets reps at RT and Donaldson starts working inside.
Sign me up for Donaldson back inside. I thought He would make the transition but he’s not handling pressure well enough off the edge and hasn’t showed the bend to be a tackle. Needs to continue to lose weight if he wants to play there.

Regardless sign me up for an oline group of

LT. St. Louis(he’s had his issues at tackle too.)
Lg Boulware(has been better than both of the starting guards.)
C- Tyler gaulthier with Gaynor pushing him
Rg- Navaughn Donaldson
Rt- Scaife
 
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If we somehow make it to the ACCCG, I advocate starting Rosier because Clemson is going to dismember whoever is standing back there.
 
Sign me up for Donaldson back inside. I thought He would make the transition but he’s not handling pressure well enough off the edge and hasn’t showed the bend to be a tackle. Needs to continue to lose weight if he wants to play there.

Regardless sign me up for an oline group of

LT. St. Louis(he’s had his issues at tackle too.)
Lg Boulware(has been better than both of the starting guards.)
C- Tyler gaulthier with Gaynor pushing him
Rg- Navaughn Donaldson
Rt- Scaife

@Lance Roffers mentioned it in the OP. Donaldson just doesn’t have great bend. He’s worked hard on his body and he’s smart, but I don’t see his flexibility changing significantly.

His athleticism plays best as a pulling guard. He can run and hit small targets.
 
Best content on this or any UM site.

Why the people screaming about we fans taking issue with this product don't read it is a disservice to themselves.

We aren't winning anything with this OL. A UM OL getting pancaked by a D2 CB is locker room shaming material. Ask Jon Vilma.
 
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Yikes. Some scary stuff in this thread and big thanks to Lance for putting it together. I am seriously questioning Searels' ability to develop OL. We seem to be regressing here. We better get our **** together for Brian Burns and the FSU DL.
 
Dear Lord, get the young guys with upside in these games. Get Scaife to RT and Donaldson back inside.
 
Can somebody explain to me how coaches grade O-linemen? Specifically, what is the basis for grading Mahoney as the best performing O-lineman in the Sad State game? This isn't intended to be a sarcastic question. I truly don't understand.
 
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Can somebody explain to me how coaches grade O-linemen? Specifically, what is the basis for grading Mahoney as the best performing O-lineman in the Sad State game? This isn't intended to be a sarcastic question. I truly don't understand.

I'm not in Miami coaches meetings, but generally they just take every play and they get a win or loss for each play. Add it up to get percentage. Generally 80% is pretty good. 90% is great. 95% is All-American.

Mahoney won pretty much every time in the 4th quarter against 3rd stringers and that'll help his percentage. Sometimes he still got the block even though I was critical of his process as well.
 
I'm not in Miami coaches meetings, but generally they just take every play and they get a win or loss for each play. Add it up to get percentage. Generally 80% is pretty good. 90% is great. 95% is All-American.

Mahoney won pretty much every time in the 4th quarter against 3rd stringers and that'll help his percentage. Sometimes he still got the block even though I was critical of his process as well.

Thanks.
 
Thank you @Lance Roffers Incredible breakdown.

As @simplycanes said, those fans telling other fans to shut up because fans don't know what we're looking at should read this stuff. Malik Rosier could probably benefit from this breakdown as well.

I fully bought in going into this season. I have since dumped all my shares at pennies on the dollar. I'll still be at the games rooting this team and these kids on, but this is, quite simply, not a very good team right now., with not a lot of reason for hope until these coaches change their tune and start playing guys with some upside.

Will it even matter as long as Stacey's mom is our OL coach?
 
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