Update on David Stone

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We are considered a top spender by the rest of America- coaches, media, agents.

The only place I see people questioning our spending is our message boards, I think there is an information gap.
If we are a top spender in the country (which we are) then we are investing it ridiculously poorly if we aren’t making the playoffs with a weak schedule and fielding the worst defense in my lifetime. Can’t have it both ways.
 
If we are a top spender in the country (which we are) then we are investing it ridiculously poorly if we aren’t making the playoffs with a weak schedule and fielding the worst defense in my lifetime. Can’t have it both ways.
We need to be better. We’ve improved three wins and nine draft picks from January 2022, but we lost a 21-point lead to Syracuse with the season on the line. We aren’t where we need to be.

Part of the fun of this process is debating strategy and allocation. But the whining I see from many about us “going cheap” is wrong. And it often comes from those who don’t put up money.
 
Message board arm chair QBs are hilarious. Some of you have no clue the magnitude of what this has become and what goes on in structuring a team and cap and dealing with players, agents, opposing schools, handlers, entourages, camps whatever you want to call it. College football is not 2000 anymore. It’s a freaking massive money organization that requires a lot of people to manage 85 kids and tracking hundreds more in HS and other schools always one phone call away from transferring. Not to mention it’s not bag drops anymore. It’s well funded collectives at more than the SEC.

And it is not just money. It’s putting together a complete squad to compete. It’s allocating resources in the best possible way within a budget. Nobody bats 100% not even in the NFL. Also give a kid some money they might not be as motivated. Who knows what happens with HS kids all the time. Not to mention kids so many kids are just leaving after a year or 2 in a program. They aren’t growing. For example Willis McGhee would’ve been gone after a year. He was looking to leave. Had Gore, Portis, Jackson ahead of him. He stayed. And he ended up with one of the best seasons ever for a RB. Guys have no patience and many can’t see the forest thru the trees.

I have marginal insight but enough and @DMoney knows a ton and is beyond plugged in but this is not so easy. It’s a free for all right now.

I trust our coaches and staff. Yes we had a crap defense last year. Wasted the best offense we ever had. Hopefully it gets better.
 
We need to be better. We’ve improved three wins and nine draft picks from January 2022, but we lost a 21-point lead to Syracuse with the season on the line. We aren’t where we need to be.

Part of the fun of this process is debating strategy and allocation. But the whining I see from many about us “going cheap” is wrong. And it often comes from those who don’t put up money.
preach, i agree 100%
 
I’m told Miami has interest in Oklahoma DT transfer David Stone but, as with Trebor Pena, this is not as far along as is being reported.

In terms of allocation, the focus remains on adding an impact WR with speed, a starting safety, and retaining our own impact players amidst aggressive bids from other schools.


With another impact dt rotation studs two deep we should just move one of those cbs to safety to save money . I like the fact the qb want have all day to throw the ball . We have big dbs who can play safety
 
We need to be better. We’ve improved three wins and nine draft picks from January 2022, but we lost a 21-point lead to Syracuse with the season on the line. We aren’t where we need to be.

Part of the fun of this process is debating strategy and allocation. But the whining I see from many about us “going cheap” is wrong. And it often comes from those who don’t put up money.
we arent going cheap when SEC schools complain about our spending.

We will def be going after stone, Pena is looking for a lot and our main wr concern is a speedy wr with multiple years, not a slot. toney has really stepped up, they dont want him starting but he is tough and driven.
 
Message board arm chair QBs are hilarious. Some of you have no clue the magnitude of what this has become and what goes on in structuring a team and cap and dealing with players, agents, opposing schools, handlers, entourages, camps whatever you want to call it. College football is not 2000 anymore. It’s a freaking massive money organization that requires a lot of people to manage 85 kids and tracking hundreds more in HS and other schools always one phone call away from transferring. Not to mention it’s not bag drops anymore. It’s well funded collectives at more than the SEC.

And it is not just money. It’s putting together a complete squad to compete. It’s allocating resources in the best possible way within a budget. Nobody bats 100% not even in the NFL. Also give a kid some money they might not be as motivated. Who knows what happens with HS kids all the time. Not to mention kids so many kids are just leaving after a year or 2 in a program. They aren’t growing. For example Willis McGhee would’ve been gone after a year. He was looking to leave. Had Gore, Portis, Jackson ahead of him. He stayed. And he ended up with one of the best seasons ever for a RB. Guys have no patience and many can’t see the forest thru the trees.

I have marginal insight but enough and @DMoney knows a ton and is beyond plugged in but this is not so easy. It’s a free for all right now.

I trust our coaches and staff. Yes we had a crap defense last year. Wasted the best offense we ever had. Hopefully it gets better.
Finally. A rational post.

A lot of “insiders” *****ing about misuse of funds and clearly know more than our coaches as if they are in the room navigating literally everything mentioned above….

Every ******* school and fanbase in America (yes even the big spenders) can say the exact same thing; except for the one school hoisting a trophy at the end of the year.

Those of you whining about misuse of funds - yes we had a **** defense last year but we are in the playoffs had Cam, our horse, not **** down his leg at GT. Point is, even if funds are being allocated perfectly in you certain “insider” eyes, seasons can still and will be detailed by those perfectly allocated chess pieces (players).
 
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I think we as fans have to recalibrate.
I love stars just as much as everyone else. But a freshman all American has way less red flags and proven production than stone.
You guys really think that Venables who’s produced and evaluated multiple first round dlineman was really gonna offer less money to an elite dlineman??

Remember when Clemson had 3 juniors with day one projections stay for their senior year. You think they stayed for free??

There is a reason why the Syracuse kid has visits set up to big spenders. The reason is proven production and freshman all American honors at a position that commands top dollar.

No way I risk disrupting the locker room with a potential diva that’s gonna complain about the rotation and was low balled by a school who’s head coach is regarded as a good evaluator and producer of talent in the line.

This is star chasing 101.
Look at Jalen brown at fsu.
Why didn’t the best schools go after him when he left lsu? Because he couldn’t produce at a top program and he hasn’t done jack sht at fsu either.
What about Hakeem in the portal? Top 5 in the country. Dude isn’t not gonna sign with a frontrunner at all.

You don’t low ball a player with elite potential especially when you know they can bounce if you **** them off. If they did low ball him there should’ve been no surprise that he bounced. And it looks like they ain’t trying too hard to keep him.
 
I think we as fans have to recalibrate.
I love stars just as much as everyone else. But a freshman all American has way less red flags and proven production than stone.
You guys really think that Venables who’s produced and evaluated multiple first round dlineman was really gonna offer less money to an elite dlineman??

Remember when Clemson had 3 juniors with day one projections stay for their senior year. You think they stayed for free??

There is a reason why the Syracuse kid has visits set up to big spenders. The reason is proven production and freshman all American honors at a position that commands top dollar.

No way I risk disrupting the locker room with a potential diva that’s gonna complain about the rotation and was low balled by a school who’s head coach is regarded as a good evaluator and producer of talent in the line.

This is star chasing 101.
Look at Jalen brown at fsu.
Why didn’t the best schools go after him when he left lsu? Because he couldn’t produce at a top program and he hasn’t done jack sht at fsu either.
What about Hakeem in the portal? Top 5 in the country. Dude isn’t not gonna sign with a frontrunner at all.

You don’t low ball a player with elite potential especially when you know they can bounce if you **** them off. If they did low ball him there should’ve been no surprise that he bounced. And it looks like they ain’t trying too hard to keep him.
Keep this same energy when Donte Simpson and Daylen Russell are getting powerhouses 20 yards away from the play.
 
You gotta love the semi-annual conversions about how we don’t have any money and we’re being conservative with spending
I reread the entire thread, all 7 pages and 137 post. Only a handful (being generous) were saying we don’t have money and only one of those wasn’t in defense of the staff. Meanwhile the overwhelming number of post pushing back we’re saying we have the money but it’s allocation of it.
 
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