The Work 7-30 (pre-camp notes)

The Work 7-30 (pre-camp notes)

Peter Ariz
Peter Ariz

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Now you're all twisted in knots chasing your tail. Im not trying to justify anything because I think it's wholly possible to be a great QB on a bad team. Elway and Kaaya prove that.

You, on the other hand, have repeatedly espoused the belief that Kaaya can't be considered great because he hasn't won enough. When faced with a clear example of one of the greatest QBs in the history of the game, who led his team to a 20-23 overall record at Stanford, you attempted to excuse your way around your original hypothesis by giving me a few examples of Elway comebacks, pointing out his incredible 6 win season, and excusing away no bowl appearances in 4 years by telling me there weren't many bowl games back then.

This one's over. Someone give Hugh a standing 8 count and let him gather his faculties.

Dude I have no idea what you're saying, but you're right this is over. I don't give a flying **** about any of this. Kaaya had his chances to win us some ball games and he failed. That's the bottom line. Justify by saying well he had the lead and the defense gave it up, or his play calling was terrible, or the wide receivers dropped a pass in the 3rd quarter is fine. Doesn't matter. He had his chances to win us games and he failed. That's it. End of story. Hope it changes next season with some better coaching. See you at the opener.

See the problem there? You can admit that Berrios dropped a wide open touchdown, the defense caved during late leads, bad play calling, etc. Yet you still put the failure on Kaaya. Idiocy at its finest.
 
Now you're all twisted in knots chasing your tail. Im not trying to justify anything because I think it's wholly possible to be a great QB on a bad team. Elway and Kaaya prove that.

You, on the other hand, have repeatedly espoused the belief that Kaaya can't be considered great because he hasn't won enough. When faced with a clear example of one of the greatest QBs in the history of the game, who led his team to a 20-23 overall record at Stanford, you attempted to excuse your way around your original hypothesis by giving me a few examples of Elway comebacks, pointing out his incredible 6 win season, and excusing away no bowl appearances in 4 years by telling me there weren't many bowl games back then.

This one's over. Someone give Hugh a standing 8 count and let him gather his faculties.

Dude I have no idea what you're saying, but you're right this is over. I don't give a flying **** about any of this. Kaaya had his chances to win us some ball games and he failed. That's the bottom line. Justify by saying well he had the lead and the defense gave it up, or his play calling was terrible, or the wide receivers dropped a pass in the 3rd quarter is fine. Doesn't matter. He had his chances to win us games and he failed. That's it. End of story. Hope it changes next season with some better coaching. See you at the opener.

See the problem there? You can admit that Berrios dropped a wide open touchdown, the defense caved during late leads, bad play calling, etc. Yet you still put the failure on Kaaya. Idiocy at its finest.

You see that despite that Kaaya still had the chance to win the game and yet his **** is so far down your throat you can't even see it. Gheyness at its finest.
 
Now you're all twisted in knots chasing your tail. Im not trying to justify anything because I think it's wholly possible to be a great QB on a bad team. Elway and Kaaya prove that.

You, on the other hand, have repeatedly espoused the belief that Kaaya can't be considered great because he hasn't won enough. When faced with a clear example of one of the greatest QBs in the history of the game, who led his team to a 20-23 overall record at Stanford, you attempted to excuse your way around your original hypothesis by giving me a few examples of Elway comebacks, pointing out his incredible 6 win season, and excusing away no bowl appearances in 4 years by telling me there weren't many bowl games back then.

This one's over. Someone give Hugh a standing 8 count and let him gather his faculties.

Dude I have no idea what you're saying, but you're right this is over. I don't give a flying **** about any of this. Kaaya had his chances to win us some ball games and he failed. That's the bottom line. Justify by saying well he had the lead and the defense gave it up, or his play calling was terrible, or the wide receivers dropped a pass in the 3rd quarter is fine. Doesn't matter. He had his chances to win us games and he failed. That's it. End of story. Hope it changes next season with some better coaching. See you at the opener.

See the problem there? You can admit that Berrios dropped a wide open touchdown, the defense caved during late leads, bad play calling, etc. Yet you still put the failure on Kaaya. Idiocy at its finest.

You see that despite that Kaaya still had the chance to win the game and yet his **** is so far down your throat you can't even see it. Gheyness at its finest.
Or I understand the most basic part of football that it is a team game. The team had the chance to win it and the defense couldn't make a stop, the OL couldn't block, didn't see any WR's do anything special, and Kaaya couldn't get the ball over the Dlineman in his face. Team fail. But I guess you're too busy thinking about where Kaayas **** is to understand the most simplistic part of the game.
 
Or I understand the most basic part of football that it is a team game. The team had the chance to win it and the defense couldn't make a stop, the OL couldn't block, didn't see any WR's do anything special, and Kaaya couldn't get the ball over the Dlineman in his face. Team fail. But I guess you're too busy thinking about where Kaayas **** is to understand the most simplistic part of the game.

I really don't even care about Kaaya anymore than I care about Isidora. I'm just baffled at how many people suck this dude's **** when he hasn't shown the balls of a champion yet. Probably because our fans have become ball-less as well.
 
Or I understand the most basic part of football that it is a team game. The team had the chance to win it and the defense couldn't make a stop, the OL couldn't block, didn't see any WR's do anything special, and Kaaya couldn't get the ball over the Dlineman in his face. Team fail. But I guess you're too busy thinking about where Kaayas **** is to understand the most simplistic part of the game.

I really don't even care about Kaaya anymore than I care about Isidora. I'm just baffled at how many people suck this dude's **** when he hasn't shown the balls of a champion yet. Probably because our fans have become ball-less as well.
Our fans are ball-less? The fans that ran our last coaching staff out of town and flew banners at road games? GTFOH. Maybe some fans are just rational enough to not blame every loss on our most talented player that is standing behind shrubs with the worst coaches in his ear.

Kaaya hasn't shown balls? Watch some **** tape of how many great passes he stood in the pocket for knowing he'd be hit in the mouth one second later. He should be the last player our fans talk carp about.
 
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Kaaya will definitely be a first round pick when he comes out. Arm strength looked fine when he was dropping dimes to Dirsett his freshman year. There's plenty of talk about Brad going in the first round this year, to think he won't is silly.

4th round at best if this year.. maybe 3rd next year.

He might not be the best QB on campus

You are a ******. Walk into traffic.
 
Blah, Blah, Blah. Same stuff, different year.
 
Blah, Blah, Blah. Same stuff, different year.

I remember going to the Spring game in 2000 and then writing a review on Grassy in which I noted that the OL was very athletic and flat out impressive. I remember ending by saying that IMO that the 2000 team could be our best in a long time and that I thought our team was loaded with talent. I mention this because I believe you replied the same way 16 years ago as you did in the quoted post above. People like you just get off being negative so that just in case things don't go well you can say I told you so.
 
Or I understand the most basic part of football that it is a team game. The team had the chance to win it and the defense couldn't make a stop, the OL couldn't block, didn't see any WR's do anything special, and Kaaya couldn't get the ball over the Dlineman in his face. Team fail. But I guess you're too busy thinking about where Kaayas **** is to understand the most simplistic part of the game.

I really don't even care about Kaaya anymore than I care about Isidora. I'm just baffled at how many people suck this dude's **** when he hasn't shown the balls of a champion yet. Probably because our fans have become ball-less as well.
Our fans are ball-less? The fans that ran our last coaching staff out of town and flew banners at road games? GTFOH. Maybe some fans are just rational enough to not blame every loss on our most talented player that is standing behind shrubs with the worst coaches in his ear.

Kaaya hasn't shown balls? Watch some **** tape of how many great passes he stood in the pocket for knowing he'd be hit in the mouth one second later. He should be the last player our fans talk carp about.

Why should Kaaya be exempt from criticism? Al golden was 20-16 against FBS opponents without Kaaya, and 7-10 with him as his QB. That doesn't raise an eyebrow around here because of his stat sheet. It's always someone or something else.
 
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Or I understand the most basic part of football that it is a team game. The team had the chance to win it and the defense couldn't make a stop, the OL couldn't block, didn't see any WR's do anything special, and Kaaya couldn't get the ball over the Dlineman in his face. Team fail. But I guess you're too busy thinking about where Kaayas **** is to understand the most simplistic part of the game.

I really don't even care about Kaaya anymore than I care about Isidora. I'm just baffled at how many people suck this dude's **** when he hasn't shown the balls of a champion yet. Probably because our fans have become ball-less as well.
Our fans are ball-less? The fans that ran our last coaching staff out of town and flew banners at road games? GTFOH. Maybe some fans are just rational enough to not blame every loss on our most talented player that is standing behind shrubs with the worst coaches in his ear.

Kaaya hasn't shown balls? Watch some **** tape of how many great passes he stood in the pocket for knowing he'd be hit in the mouth one second later. He should be the last player our fans talk carp about.

Why should Kaaya be exempt from criticism? Al golden was 20-16 against FBS opponents without Kaaya, and 7-10 with him as his QB. That doesn't raise an eyebrow around here because of his stat sheet. It's always someone or something else.
You really watch our games and think the reason we've been losing is QB play? Lol rocks have better football I.Q.
 
This fūcking guy is all in his feelings about Kayaa like some vengeful jilted chick. What is it? Thirty posts in this thread alone all bashing Kayaa.
 
Or I understand the most basic part of football that it is a team game. The team had the chance to win it and the defense couldn't make a stop, the OL couldn't block, didn't see any WR's do anything special, and Kaaya couldn't get the ball over the Dlineman in his face. Team fail. But I guess you're too busy thinking about where Kaayas **** is to understand the most simplistic part of the game.

I really don't even care about Kaaya anymore than I care about Isidora. I'm just baffled at how many people suck this dude's **** when he hasn't shown the balls of a champion yet. Probably because our fans have become ball-less as well.
Our fans are ball-less? The fans that ran our last coaching staff out of town and flew banners at road games? GTFOH. Maybe some fans are just rational enough to not blame every loss on our most talented player that is standing behind shrubs with the worst coaches in his ear.

Kaaya hasn't shown balls? Watch some **** tape of how many great passes he stood in the pocket for knowing he'd be hit in the mouth one second later. He should be the last player our fans talk carp about.

Why should Kaaya be exempt from criticism? Al golden was 20-16 against FBS opponents without Kaaya, and 7-10 with him as his QB. That doesn't raise an eyebrow around here because of his stat sheet. It's always someone or something else.
You really watch our games and think the reason we've been losing is QB play? Lol rocks have better football I.Q.

Nice answer.
 
Blah, Blah, Blah. Same stuff, different year.

I remember going to the Spring game in 2000 and then writing a review on Grassy in which I noted that the OL was very athletic and flat out impressive. I remember ending by saying that IMO that the 2000 team could be our best in a long time and that I thought our team was loaded with talent. I mention this because I believe you replied the same way 16 years ago as you did in the quoted post above. People like you just get off being negative so that just in case things don't go well you can say I told you so.
No, I hope the team improves and becomes relevant again. I just refuse to drink the cool aid every year. Again, until proven on the field.....
 
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In 2012, UGA had one of the top ranked offenses in the country & Aaron Murray (I think) was the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] rated QB that season.
Kaaya is light years better than Murray & even though Richt wasn't calling plays back then, we've seen that with a halfway decent QB he can produce a pretty potent offense.

Yeah...Kaaya better than Murray?? He hasn't shown that kind of ability....he hasn't proven it

Lol. Aaron Murray is the SEC's all time leading passer. Kaaya has a long ways to go before being mentioned in the same sentence as Murray, let alone being "light years ahead". My god.

You do realize how stupid that sounds don't you? Great he is the sec leader in career passing yards. Few things there champ #1 sec hasn't produced all that many great quarterbacks in the big picture. They've got there fair share but like Murray did how many of them started the whole time they were in college? Not many. He leads the sec because he started the entire time and was a decent quarterback for all of his years and actually good his senior year. But to say kaaya has a long way to go to be as good or better than him is crazy. He already has Murray in spades. Hence Aaron Murray's nfl career indicates. Lol

LOL. Why don't you actually speak in specifics instead of vague terms. Like tell me how Murray compares to the Manning brothers who also started all 4 years? Or the quarterbacks of Spurrier's fun n gun offenses. Or Jay Cutler who also started 4 years. Admittedly it's not the strongest conference for QB's, but they've had some of the best go through there.

Are we to compare them based on Aaron Murray's career? How did Ken Dorsey's NFL career go? Gino Torreta's?

For all of the talent Kaaya has, he is 10-12 against FBS opponents. There's nothing more common than an unsuccessful man with talent.

It hasn't just been on Kaaya the last two season. Yes his record is 10-12 against FBS opponents. That is fact. However its also fact that his head coach/leader OC and Defensive coordinator where average or below average. It is called a team game for a reason. The offensive line last season was the worst Canes O-line the past 30 seasons. The defensive under Golden was never good when it counted in big games and in the 4th quarter. The last two season we've seen the defense constantly give up leads or fail to keep Miami in the game against big time opponents with Kaaya as QB. The last two FSU games showed that clearly. Dalvin Cook ran ruff shot over the Canes in the 4th quarter. Kaaya game against FSU last season was one the best QB games of the season and one of the best by a Miami QB against any opponent. FSU was hitting pressuring and sacking Kaaya that entire game like all season. He threw for 405 yards 3TD and zero turnovers. Once again Miami defense under Al Golden in the 4th quarter couldn't stop or at least slow down Dalvin Cook. Football coaching defense offense and special teams. Its just not all on the **** QB.
 
Some of you guys kill me. Fap off pre season and ***** like crazy by game 3. This is gonna be another long season lmao


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Are you aware of his actual stats?in kaaya 2 years with a joke of an oc he has almost exactly half of what Murray had in 4 years including bowl games... not sure why you can't stand for that comparison. In reality a far better comparison for Murray & someone closer to his talent level would be jacory harris. Lol

What part of the "this isn't a talent issue" are you not getting? I really hope Kaaya ends up having as strong of a college career as Murray did, but Kaaya needs to start willing his team to victories before we get to that point.

The point still stands.
 
Are you aware of his actual stats?in kaaya 2 years with a joke of an oc he has almost exactly half of what Murray had in 4 years including bowl games... not sure why you can't stand for that comparison. In reality a far better comparison for Murray & someone closer to his talent level would be jacory harris. Lol

What part of the "this isn't a talent issue" are you not getting? I really hope Kaaya ends up having as strong of a college career as Murray did, but Kaaya needs to start willing his team to victories before we get to that point.

The point still stands.

I still think he is a carbon copy of Aaron Murray. He sucked too. Lol. I'm done defending this kid. Whether it's a physical issue or in his head the kid just has no heart. Lord I wish we had a back up that is ready to play football now that we could turn to.
 
Are you aware of his actual stats?in kaaya 2 years with a joke of an oc he has almost exactly half of what Murray had in 4 years including bowl games... not sure why you can't stand for that comparison. In reality a far better comparison for Murray & someone closer to his talent level would be jacory harris. Lol

What part of the "this isn't a talent issue" are you not getting? I really hope Kaaya ends up having as strong of a college career as Murray did, but Kaaya needs to start willing his team to victories before we get to that point.

The point still stands.

I still think he is a carbon copy of Aaron Murray. He sucked too. Lol. I'm done defending this kid. Whether it's a physical issue or in his head the kid just has no heart. Lord I wish we had a back up that is ready to play football now that we could turn to.

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