The Work 7-30 (pre-camp notes)

The Work 7-30 (pre-camp notes)

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Do all fan bases have a portion of fans that are ignorant and hate on the best player they have on a regular basis, or are we just "special"? Blows my mind that Kaaya gets so much flack on here. He should be lauded for having to overcome a **** poor coaching staff and gameplan, on both sides of the ball. Contrary to popular belief, what the defense does, impacts the offense as well. The fact that people try to pin losses on Kaaya is ridiculous and are likely the same people who have been hating on Brad since day 1, crying for Jake Heaps to save us. It's a joke and they will be the first ones sucking him off when he balls out this year. Brad is going to go down as one of our all time great QBs and a top 5 draft pick. Deal with it.
 
I guess Kellen Moore beating up on mid major schools makes him better then Kaaya....

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At least Moore can beat mid-majors. Kaaya lost to f*cking Cincinnati last year. By the way, moron, Moore also beat legit Power 5 teams such as Oregon, TCU(they might as well have been a Power 5 team back then), Virginia Tech, and Georgia.

Jacob Coker beat Clemson.
Kaaya got beat 58-0 by Clemson.
I'll ask again...is Coker better than Kaaya?

I already told your dumbass earlier in the thread that Kaaya is better than Coker. By the way, Kaaya only played 1 quarter in that Clemson game, so you can't really say he got beat 58-0.

But you just said Kellen Moore is better because of who he beat and who Kaaya failed to beat...

No, dumbass. I said Moore is a better college quarterback than Kaaya because he won **** near every game he started in, and he put up ridiculous numbers his entire career. Moore was never carried by the team around him. He was the main reason they were so dominant those four years.
 
At least Moore can beat mid-majors. Kaaya lost to f*cking Cincinnati last year. By the way, moron, Moore also beat legit Power 5 teams such as Oregon, TCU(they might as well have been a Power 5 team back then), Virginia Tech, and Georgia.

Jacob Coker beat Clemson.
Kaaya got beat 58-0 by Clemson.
I'll ask again...is Coker better than Kaaya?

I already told your dumbass earlier in the thread that Kaaya is better than Coker. By the way, Kaaya only played 1 quarter in that Clemson game, so you can't really say he got beat 58-0.

But you just said Kellen Moore is better because of who he beat and who Kaaya failed to beat...

No, dumbass. I said Moore is a better college quarterback than Kaaya because he won **** near every game he started in, and he put up ridiculous numbers his entire career. Moore was never carried by the team around him. He was the main reason they were so dominant those four years.
Austin Pettis, Titus Young, Doug Martin, DJ Harper, and Nate Potter were all on his team at Bosie. He had multiple players on defense that got to the league also. For you to say he was never carried by his team is flat out ignorant. You really are trolling....

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Do all fan bases have a portion of fans that are ignorant and hate on the best player they have on a regular basis, or are we just "special"? Blows my mind that Kaaya gets so much flack on here. He should be lauded for having to overcome a **** poor coaching staff and gameplan, on both sides of the ball. Contrary to popular belief, what the defense does, impacts the offense as well. The fact that people try to pin losses on Kaaya is ridiculous and are likely the same people who have been hating on Brad since day 1, crying for Jake Heaps to save us. It's a joke and they will be the first ones sucking him off when he balls out this year. Brad is going to go down as one of our all time great QBs and a top 5 draft pick. Deal with it.

Every team has a group similar to this.
 
Do all fan bases have a portion of fans that are ignorant and hate on the best player they have on a regular basis, or are we just "special"? Blows my mind that Kaaya gets so much flack on here. He should be lauded for having to overcome a **** poor coaching staff and gameplan, on both sides of the ball. Contrary to popular belief, what the defense does, impacts the offense as well. The fact that people try to pin losses on Kaaya is ridiculous and are likely the same people who have been hating on Brad since day 1, crying for Jake Heaps to save us. It's a joke and they will be the first ones sucking him off when he balls out this year. Brad is going to go down as one of our all time great QBs and a top 5 draft pick. Deal with it.

No one is going to remember Kaaya as one of Miami's all time great quarterbacks if he leaves after this year, like quite a few people are speculating. He needs to stay all four years.
 
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Al Golden.

You think Peyton Manning is worse than every QB who has won a Natty?
You think Jacob Coker is a better QB than Brad Kaaya?

Blake Sims and Jake Coker are better than Joe Montana and John Elway because they had better winning percentages.

And Christian Hackenberg was a better college quarterback than Ken Dorsey. Because after his sophomore year all of the experts and scouts said he was going to be the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] NFL pick, and Ken Dorsey was a benchwarmer. 7th round draft pick LOL, why is this even a conversation we have the stoopidest fanz.
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.
 
Jacob Coker beat Clemson.
Kaaya got beat 58-0 by Clemson.
I'll ask again...is Coker better than Kaaya?

I already told your dumbass earlier in the thread that Kaaya is better than Coker. By the way, Kaaya only played 1 quarter in that Clemson game, so you can't really say he got beat 58-0.

But you just said Kellen Moore is better because of who he beat and who Kaaya failed to beat...

No, dumbass. I said Moore is a better college quarterback than Kaaya because he won **** near every game he started in, and he put up ridiculous numbers his entire career. Moore was never carried by the team around him. He was the main reason they were so dominant those four years.
Austin Pettis, Titus Young, Doug Martin, DJ Harper, and Nate Potter were all on his team at Bosie. He had multiple players on defense that got to the league also. For you to say he was never carried by his team is flat out ignorant. You really are trolling....

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I am aware of who he played with on those teams. Look up his numbers and then try to tell me he wasn't the main reason they were so dominant those four years. By the way, dumbass, Moore had his best year passing without Pettis or Young to throw to, in 2011.
 
Blake Sims and Jake Coker are better than Joe Montana and John Elway because they had better winning percentages.

And Christian Hackenberg was a better college quarterback than Ken Dorsey. Because after his sophomore year all of the experts and scouts said he was going to be the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] NFL pick, and Ken Dorsey was a benchwarmer. 7th round draft pick LOL, why is this even a conversation we have the stoopidest fanz.
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

You can't be a great college quarterback if you had a losing record, overall. That's **** near impossible. All this tells me is that the Heisman is a f*cking joke.
 
He willed us to a moral victory, which is much more important to our new fanbase.

I must suck as a porster.

I've been trying to will you to have a brain aneurysm for the last couple of days.

Maybe I should will harder.

But who's going to pay for your Medicaid then? You need to think about these things first.

Hurt feelings, bro?

I'm still trying to will you a massive aneurysm, so sit tight.

Dude you sound like a ghey. Talking about feelings and thinking about me all day. Move on bro, I'm not interested.

Says the cūnt troll who's all up in his feelings, obsessively posting about Kaaya not having some imaginary will, which causes teams to win. Talk about ghey? Post after post, like a lovestruck teenage ghey fanboy because his boycrush has let him down. I've posted like three times pointing out the sheer faqqotry of your cūnty posts, you have dozens of posts in this thread alone.
 
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And Christian Hackenberg was a better college quarterback than Ken Dorsey. Because after his sophomore year all of the experts and scouts said he was going to be the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] NFL pick, and Ken Dorsey was a benchwarmer. 7th round draft pick LOL, why is this even a conversation we have the stoopidest fanz.
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

You can't be a great college quarterback if you had a losing record, overall. That's **** near impossible. All this tells me is that the Heisman is a f*cking joke.

Wow.
 
I already told your dumbass earlier in the thread that Kaaya is better than Coker. By the way, Kaaya only played 1 quarter in that Clemson game, so you can't really say he got beat 58-0.

But you just said Kellen Moore is better because of who he beat and who Kaaya failed to beat...

No, dumbass. I said Moore is a better college quarterback than Kaaya because he won **** near every game he started in, and he put up ridiculous numbers his entire career. Moore was never carried by the team around him. He was the main reason they were so dominant those four years.
Austin Pettis, Titus Young, Doug Martin, DJ Harper, and Nate Potter were all on his team at Bosie. He had multiple players on defense that got to the league also. For you to say he was never carried by his team is flat out ignorant. You really are trolling....

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I am aware of who he played with on those teams. Look up his numbers and then try to tell me he wasn't the main reason they were so dominant those four years. By the way, dumbass, Moore had his best year passing without Pettis or Young to throw to, in 2011.
This dumbass is still proving how ignorant you are. In 2010 he had a passing rating of 182.6, in 2011 it was 175.2. He also threw for more yards on less attempts and fewer ints in 2010.

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Blake Sims and Jake Coker are better than Joe Montana and John Elway because they had better winning percentages.

And Christian Hackenberg was a better college quarterback than Ken Dorsey. Because after his sophomore year all of the experts and scouts said he was going to be the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] NFL pick, and Ken Dorsey was a benchwarmer. 7th round draft pick LOL, why is this even a conversation we have the stoopidest fanz.
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

I fully understand the point you and everyone else on here is making. It's just wholly irrelevant to what I'm saying.

Elway couldn't be further away from Kaaya into what I'm talking about specifically, which is 4th quarter comebacks and willing his team to victory. Elway was one of the best, Kaaya hasn't done it yet.

For the 1 millionth time on this forum, because people can't read, etc., I think Kaaya has a ton of talent. He can make some incredible throws, particularly under pressure. I'm a huge fan of his talent. But he still has a ways to go in 3rd down conversions and 4th quarter comebacks. Yes, I will be one of the first ones there cheering him on when he does it, which I expect him to.

The problem is many people on here are concrete thinkers and have an "us vs. them" mentality. So they can't see what I'm actually saying they'll just call me a hater and bring out their pre-made arguments, which is much easier than reading, understanding, and having a conversation.
 
But you just said Kellen Moore is better because of who he beat and who Kaaya failed to beat...

No, dumbass. I said Moore is a better college quarterback than Kaaya because he won **** near every game he started in, and he put up ridiculous numbers his entire career. Moore was never carried by the team around him. He was the main reason they were so dominant those four years.
Austin Pettis, Titus Young, Doug Martin, DJ Harper, and Nate Potter were all on his team at Bosie. He had multiple players on defense that got to the league also. For you to say he was never carried by his team is flat out ignorant. You really are trolling....

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I am aware of who he played with on those teams. Look up his numbers and then try to tell me he wasn't the main reason they were so dominant those four years. By the way, dumbass, Moore had his best year passing without Pettis or Young to throw to, in 2011.
This dumbass is still proving how ignorant you are. In 2010 he had a passing rating of 182.6, in 2011 it was 175.2. He also threw for more yards on less attempts and fewer ints in 2010.

My point, moron, is that Moore never needed Pettis or Young to be a really good college quarterback.
 
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And Christian Hackenberg was a better college quarterback than Ken Dorsey. Because after his sophomore year all of the experts and scouts said he was going to be the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] NFL pick, and Ken Dorsey was a benchwarmer. 7th round draft pick LOL, why is this even a conversation we have the stoopidest fanz.
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

You can't be a great college quarterback if you had a losing record, overall. That's **** near impossible. All this tells me is that the Heisman is a f*cking joke.

You're too starved for attention with your 38th screen name. I can't fill that void. That's why I've ignored your inanities. The question was for Hugh, who, although he is floundering in this thread, is a legit dude.
 
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

You can't be a great college quarterback if you had a losing record, overall. That's **** near impossible. All this tells me is that the Heisman is a f*cking joke.

You're too starved for attention with your 38th screen name. I can't fill that void. That's why I've ignored your inanities. The question was for Hugh, who, although he is floundering in this thread, is a legit dude.

I have only had one screen name over the past four years, chief.
 
No, dumbass. I said Moore is a better college quarterback than Kaaya because he won **** near every game he started in, and he put up ridiculous numbers his entire career. Moore was never carried by the team around him. He was the main reason they were so dominant those four years.
Austin Pettis, Titus Young, Doug Martin, DJ Harper, and Nate Potter were all on his team at Bosie. He had multiple players on defense that got to the league also. For you to say he was never carried by his team is flat out ignorant. You really are trolling....

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I am aware of who he played with on those teams. Look up his numbers and then try to tell me he wasn't the main reason they were so dominant those four years. By the way, dumbass, Moore had his best year passing without Pettis or Young to throw to, in 2011.
This dumbass is still proving how ignorant you are. In 2010 he had a passing rating of 182.6, in 2011 it was 175.2. He also threw for more yards on less attempts and fewer ints in 2010.

My point, moron, is that Moore never needed Pettis or Young to be a really good college quarterback.

Lol o now that's your point. First it was he never needed help carrying the team. Then it changes to his best year came in 2011 without those players I named. Then it changes to he never needed those players to be great....lol

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And Christian Hackenberg was a better college quarterback than Ken Dorsey. Because after his sophomore year all of the experts and scouts said he was going to be the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] NFL pick, and Ken Dorsey was a benchwarmer. 7th round draft pick LOL, why is this even a conversation we have the stoopidest fanz.
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

I fully understand the point you and everyone else on here is making. It's just wholly irrelevant to what I'm saying.

Elway couldn't be further away from Kaaya into what I'm talking about specifically, which is 4th quarter comebacks and willing his team to victory. Elway was one of the best, Kaaya hasn't done it yet.

For the 1 millionth time on this forum, because people can't read, etc., I think Kaaya has a ton of talent. He can make some incredible throws, particularly under pressure. I'm a huge fan of his talent. But he still has a ways to go in 3rd down conversions and 4th quarter comebacks. Yes, I will be one of the first ones there cheering him on when he does it, which I expect him to.

The problem is many people on here are concrete thinkers and have an "us vs. them" mentality. So they can't see what I'm actually saying they'll just call me a hater and bring out their pre-made arguments, which is much easier than reading, understanding, and having a conversation.

How many incredible comebacks and "willing to victory" moments could a guy who was 20-23 at Stanford with no bowl appearances have? You wanted to focus on college, which is why I brought you Elway and his record at Stanford. Take a knee, Hugh.
 
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

You can't be a great college quarterback if you had a losing record, overall. That's **** near impossible. All this tells me is that the Heisman is a f*cking joke.

You're too starved for attention with your 38th screen name. I can't fill that void. That's why I've ignored your inanities. The question was for Hugh, who, although he is floundering in this thread, is a legit dude.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hackenburg? Who mentioned him? He had a decent freshman season then stunk. He's nowhere near the college QB Kaaya is, and he wasn't a top 10 pick either. He wasn't even a top 50 pick.

Lol, who mentioned Blake Sims?

Franchise, you are one of my favorite posters on here and this is disappointing. Hackenberg was widely projected as the #1 overall pick after his sophomore season, even Todd McShay had him at #1 .

Penn State's Christian Hackenberg the No. 1 pick in Todd McShay's 2016 NFL mock draft | PennLive.com
Let's talk specifically about John Elway for a minute. Shall we? Elway's Stanford teams were 20-23 overall during his time there. He never led them to a bowl game.

Is it your position that Elway wasn't a great QB? He set all kinds of records at Stanford and was runner up for the 1982 Heisman trophy. But his team was 20-23 with no bowl appearances.

He was the consensus number 1 pick and struggled for years to win a Super Bowl. Later in his career the Broncos hired Tannahan, who installed a top running game, and Elway finally got over the hump.

Hopefully, this specific example will allow you the chance to extricate your deeply entrenched heels and realize that a great QB can languish on a bad team.

I fully understand the point you and everyone else on here is making. It's just wholly irrelevant to what I'm saying.

Elway couldn't be further away from Kaaya into what I'm talking about specifically, which is 4th quarter comebacks and willing his team to victory. Elway was one of the best, Kaaya hasn't done it yet.

For the 1 millionth time on this forum, because people can't read, etc., I think Kaaya has a ton of talent. He can make some incredible throws, particularly under pressure. I'm a huge fan of his talent. But he still has a ways to go in 3rd down conversions and 4th quarter comebacks. Yes, I will be one of the first ones there cheering him on when he does it, which I expect him to.

The problem is many people on here are concrete thinkers and have an "us vs. them" mentality. So they can't see what I'm actually saying they'll just call me a hater and bring out their pre-made arguments, which is much easier than reading, understanding, and having a conversation.

How many incredible comebacks and "willing to victory" moments could a guy who was 20-23 at Stanford with no bowl appearances have? You wanted to focus on college, which is why I brought you Elway and his record at Stanford. Take a knee, Hugh.

True, I don't know enough about Elway's college career to comment. I'll have to look that up and get back to you.
 
Austin Pettis, Titus Young, Doug Martin, DJ Harper, and Nate Potter were all on his team at Bosie. He had multiple players on defense that got to the league also. For you to say he was never carried by his team is flat out ignorant. You really are trolling....

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I am aware of who he played with on those teams. Look up his numbers and then try to tell me he wasn't the main reason they were so dominant those four years. By the way, dumbass, Moore had his best year passing without Pettis or Young to throw to, in 2011.
This dumbass is still proving how ignorant you are. In 2010 he had a passing rating of 182.6, in 2011 it was 175.2. He also threw for more yards on less attempts and fewer ints in 2010.

My point, moron, is that Moore never needed Pettis or Young to be a really good college quarterback.

Lol o now that's your point. First it was he never needed help carrying the team. Then it changes to his best year came in 2011 without those players I named. Then it changes to he never needed those players to be great....lol

My point has always been that Kellen Moore is a better college quarterback than Brad Kaaya (as of right now). You are the one claiming he was only good because of the talent around him. His 2011 season proved he was just that **** good.
 
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