The Culture Part Will Take Time

The Culture Part Will Take Time

LuCane

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How long does it take to see certain players from the past regime such as Flagg, Ivey, Mallory keep ******** up. Did Mario not look at the previous 3 years of game film? Everyone knows this team isn’t going to win 10+ games so why do they keep trotting out the same scrubs that for now 4 years have shown constant mistakes and zero improvement?
Just depends on what's behind the guy. Our roster is thin & lacks developed talent. Ideally this would've been addressed in the off-season but as is, our options at a lot of positions are limited.

I think him going to Garcia shows he has the balls. TVD is a Heisman hyped, 1st Rd projected team Captain. The key was having a capable back-up. Sure he waited late but it's not an easy decision.
 
After he had one foot out the door, on his way to Miami. In full disclosure.
So Mario decided not to give his full effort in the first game against Utah even though Oregon was #3 in the nation and potentially looking at a spot in the College Football Playoffs?
 
Just depends on what's behind the guy. Our roster is thin & lacks developed talent. Ideally this would've been addressed in the off-season but as is, our options at a lot of positions are limited.

I think him going to Garcia shows he has the balls. TVD is a Heisman hyped, 1st Rd projected team Captain. The key was having a capable back-up. Sure he waited late but it's not an easy decision.

I'd like to see Mario pull guys when they **** up, no matter who's behind them. Get beat man to man and give up a 69 yard bomb? Your *** is benched for a series and if the guy behind you is playing better than you, then you don't get your job back. Fumble the ball? Same thing.

That's the accountability Mario and Highsmith were talking about before the season but so far I haven't seen it in games.

You shouldn't be playing your most talented players no matter what, you should be playing the players who PRODUCE and let playing time be the reward for production and results IN GAME.

I don't give a **** about who looks good in practice. Not 4 games in. All I care about is who is getting it done on Saturday, that's who should be in the game.
 
Weve heard the culture **** since Shannon. Never changed no matter who coached or recruited.


You know what we havent had?????


Top tier coordinators. Maybe start there for a change. Winning and playing exciting football cures alot.
Because it's been a problem.

Believe it or not, you need both top tier coordinators and a culture of strong work ethic and competitiveness.

Like is noted elsewhere, isn't it weird Dan Enos is over at Maryland averaging 7.3 yards/play (Top 8)?
 
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So Mario decided not to give his full effort in the first game against Utah even though Oregon was #3 in the nation and potentially looking at a spot in the College Football Playoffs?

His players didn't give full effort because they knew he was leaving. Just like on Saturday, one man can't motivate another. You either want it on your own or you don't. Oregon players got in their own feelings, like Miami players are constantly in their own feelings.
 
We literally have last year's Broyles award winner at OC. Just stop. That's the definition of "top tier."

Stop trying to excuse a lazy and unmotivated performance by these players, and try holding them accountable for once.

Honestly your mentality is part of the problem. Yeah we can fire Gattis and pay someone else a million dollars to come draw different X's and O's on the chalk board. It won't ******* matter. If the fans and community held the players accountable for their disgusting lack of effort, instead of trying to shift the blame to "skeemz" or whatever, maybe that would light a fire under some of them to be a better version of themselves.

But nope, not this fanbase. We gotta shift the blame to X's and O's, which is totally laughable because we shouldn't need X's and O's wizardry to line up and beat ******* Middle Tennessee. We SHOULD and CAN line up and whip them with the most vanilla of schemes, we just didn't and that's EFFORT, pure and simple.

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I know he's been injured some, but cot damm!t Rooster has looked like **** this year. Parish and Thad are complementary backs, no way we can be better than avg with those 2
 
I don't get this culture talk it will take time. So many programs that are abysmal can turn it around in one year. This baloney it will take time is for the weak minded. That's what the head coach is hired for and makes so much money. It is his responsibility to do that and do it in a timely manner. This thread is a joke!
 
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Because it's been a problem.

Believe it or not, you need both top tier coordinators and a culture of strong work ethic and competitiveness.

Like is noted elsewhere, isn't it weird Dan Enos is over at Maryland averaging 7.3 yards/play (Top 8)?

Not having screwups at QB makes a big difference for sure
 
Because it's been a problem.

Believe it or not, you need both top tier coordinators and a culture of strong work ethic and competitiveness.

Like is noted elsewhere, isn't it weird Dan Enos is over at Maryland averaging 7.3 yards/play (Top 8)?

Weird? I dont know. Maybe their head coach told him the offense he wanted and enos adjusted.


We have never hired top tier coordinators.

We spent all this money to take gattis who Michigan didn't care for and steele who was headed to maryland.


Top tier would be coaches from bama, uga, ohio state, oklahoma, clemson.


I would take wake forests offensive coordinator over gattis. At least he puts up points.
 
You are still misrepresenting Mario's accomplishments. He "won" the PAC 12 Championship in the 2020 COVID year while compiling a 4-3 record. That's nothing special.

We should retroactively give Al Golden credit for an ACC coastal Champ in 2012. Since UNC was ineligible, UM had the tiebreaker over Georgia Tech for the acc championship. UM self imposed and chose not to be acc coastal Champs so GT ended up playing FSU and losing 21-15. If UM had played instead of GT, maybe UM wins the acc.

Oregon did not win the Pac12 North in 2020, but got to play in the acc championship game because the entire UW team was sick with covid. Oregons season included the first loss in years to a 1 win Oregon State team. That USC squad the Ducks played in the Pac12 championship ended up firing their HC only two games later, so that should give a hint about the quality of the coaching that Mario faced.

I have a feeling if UM had fallen *** backwards into the acc championship game in 2020 due to other coastal teams having Covid and unable to play, fans wouldnt be praising Diaz for winning the corstal.
 
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I don't get this culture talk it will take time. So many programs that are abysmal can turn it around in one year. This baloney it will take time is for the weak minded. That's what the head coach is hired for and makes so much money. It is his responsibility to do that and do it in a timely manner. This thread is a joke!
Clearly, you haven't really read the thread or understood the original post. The point has been that changing the culture should not absolve Mario. The culture part will take time. The winning part can and should have been helped by the correct hires and personnel decisions.
 
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His players didn't give full effort because they knew he was leaving. Just like on Saturday, one man can't motivate another. You either want it on your own or you don't. Oregon players got in their own feelings, like Miami players are constantly in their own feelings.
Is this a fact or your opinion?
 
There aren't really any excuses and I'm certainly not an apologist. You can read my history on Mario. Even if he brought in 100% of his players this year (an impossibility), it takes time to build culture.

He deserves ALL OF THE WRATH right now. I think he made a highly questionable OC hire and am on record of that since February. Zero hindsight used. He'll either fix it (and other issues) or we'll all suffer.
No worries bro. Not directing my comments toward you. In general, I’m hearing and reading all this ‘changing culture’ talk rear it’s ugly head again...interestingly, this talk wasn’t mentioned before the A&M game….
 
Weird? I dont know. Maybe their head coach told him the offense he wanted and enos adjusted.


We have never hired top tier coordinators.

We spent all this money to take gattis who Michigan didn't care for and steele who was headed to maryland.


Top tier would be coaches from bama, uga, ohio state, oklahoma, clemson.


I would take wake forests offensive coordinator over gattis. At least he puts up points.

Watch them. It's pretty much the same stuff we saw. FWIW, Jarren Williams tossed 6 TDs under him. We also saw Enos **** the bed against FIU and others. I think you're trying to oversimplify a problem that has many sides (the point of this thread).
 
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I don’t want to hear any more about changing the culture and how it’s gonna take forever to do it.

These coaches are getting paid a ton of money to put the players in a position to succeed AND to motivate them to do their jobs correctly. They are failing, in an epic way, at their core tasks.

Mario may be able to recruit his way out of this and turn it around, as others have suggested. Maybe, maybe not. But let’s not kid ourselves here. He is getting paid millions to come in and get guys to do things his way—the right way.

If his staff can’t get the players focused, motivated, and in position to succeed against the MTSUs of the world, then they’re just doing a bad job. Period. Don’t even talk to me about toxic culture or jags left over from the last regime.
 
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