The Blueprint

The Blueprint

DMoney
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D, have you heard anything lately on Newbold? I haven't heard or seen much. Id like to add him to the class if we aren't getting Phillips.

Nope, but I saw he had another tiptoe back of the endzone TD in the All-Star game. Very talented receiver.

Ya I saw that too. Lol that's actually what reminded me about him. Been so quiet around his recruitment.

He's committed to Southern Illinois.

I thought 2016 ATH Steve Newbold would end up at UCF at worst not in the MAC. Maybe they make a late run at him.

Go Canes
 
Not many "hidden gems" in this day & age of recruiting. Butch was able to find them 25 years ago.

More than half of the first rounders this year were three stars or below. They are there if you can find them.

There are only about 200 4 stars recruited every year while there are about 800 3 stars ,so your odds are still better to get a quality player with a 4 star kid.

Correct. The odds are better with four or five star kids. I am disputing the idea that there are no more hidden gems in the modern era of recruiting. There are a ton of them. It just takes skillful evaluation.

There are hidden gems, but there's 120+ teams looking for them. Even if you're the best talent evaluator, you'll be lucky to get 2-3 hidden gems every year and for everyone of them, you'll probably get even more busts even if you're good at it.

Your write up is cute and somewhat accurate besides the south florida part, but it's utopia to think this is THE blueprint to win championships... No matter the number of hidden gems you find, if your roster aint full of 5/4 stars, you aint winning any crystall ball!

You are totally missing his point. D Money isn't saying that Miami should be shopping on the clearance rack for their football players. Four and five stars players don't win championships. Four and Five star players with NFL talent wins championships.

If a Tri- county area of Palm Beach, Broward and Dade are producing the most NFL talent wouldn't it make the most sense to get both highly rated and lower rated players from that region.

Wouldn't it also make sense to supplement that with the best players from across the country, so you can have one of the most talented teams in the country?

I don't believe it's really a blueprint. Seems like more common sense to me.
 
Not many "hidden gems" in this day & age of recruiting. Butch was able to find them 25 years ago.

More than half of the first rounders this year were three stars or below. They are there if you can find them.

There are only about 200 4 stars recruited every year while there are about 800 3 stars ,so your odds are still better to get a quality player with a 4 star kid.

Correct. The odds are better with four or five star kids. I am disputing the idea that there are no more hidden gems in the modern era of recruiting. There are a ton of them. It just takes skillful evaluation.

There are hidden gems, but there's 120+ teams looking for them. Even if you're the best talent evaluator, you'll be lucky to get 2-3 hidden gems every year and for everyone of them, you'll probably get even more busts even if you're good at it.

Your write up is cute and somewhat accurate besides the south florida part, but it's utopia to think this is THE blueprint to win championships... No matter the number of hidden gems you find, if your roster aint full of 5/4 stars, you aint winning any crystall ball!

Your last point is wrong. As an example, please take a look at this: ESPN.com: NCF - Tracking the Top 10 1998-2002

Our 2001 squad didn't have that many 4 and 5 star players.
 
More than half of the first rounders this year were three stars or below. They are there if you can find them.

There are only about 200 4 stars recruited every year while there are about 800 3 stars ,so your odds are still better to get a quality player with a 4 star kid.

Correct. The odds are better with four or five star kids. I am disputing the idea that there are no more hidden gems in the modern era of recruiting. There are a ton of them. It just takes skillful evaluation.

There are hidden gems, but there's 120+ teams looking for them. Even if you're the best talent evaluator, you'll be lucky to get 2-3 hidden gems every year and for everyone of them, you'll probably get even more busts even if you're good at it.

Your write up is cute and somewhat accurate besides the south florida part, but it's utopia to think this is THE blueprint to win championships... No matter the number of hidden gems you find, if your roster aint full of 5/4 stars, you aint winning any crystall ball!

You are totally missing his point. D Money isn't saying that Miami should be shopping on the clearance rack for their football players. Four and five stars players don't win championships. Four and Five star players with NFL talent wins championships.

If a Tri- county area of Palm Beach, Broward and Dade are producing the most NFL talent wouldn't it make the most sense to get both highly rated and lower rated players from that region.

Wouldn't it also make sense to supplement that with the best players from across the country, so you can have one of the most talented teams in the country?

I don't believe it's really a blueprint. Seems like more common sense to me.

80% of your class should come from south florida and the other 20% go national...... the best talent is in south florida no matter their star ranking...... draw a diagonal line from daytona beach to tampa and everything below it is fair game...... i consider jacksonville and northern florida part of the 20%....... game over
 
Don't compare Gordnier until he actually plays this year. The same way you guys gave Njoku as he redshirted. Something about Jaime makes me think he's going to be a player. We forget all about him Perry and Patchan

We need updates on guys like these. I'm sure some have potential.

Well you know who to thank for us not being up to date with the young men. Now that Richt is hired I think we'll have an update soon, look how active DMoney and the recruiting board has been lately.

Hasn't been this way since our 1st lost. I'm not going to lie once 01canes and a few others gave up hope and stop updating us with class of 16 recruiting I gave up too lmfaooo
 
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This is a myth. Miami's top teams never had that high of a percentage....

However, I do agree that a majority should be from Florida. I think somewhere around 65% would likely be where we've been over the past few decades...and I think that's a fair number to shoot for (if you have a staff that can pull in difference makers from out-of-state, which Richt can and will do....)

There are only about 200 4 stars recruited every year while there are about 800 3 stars ,so your odds are still better to get a quality player with a 4 star kid.

Correct. The odds are better with four or five star kids. I am disputing the idea that there are no more hidden gems in the modern era of recruiting. There are a ton of them. It just takes skillful evaluation.

There are hidden gems, but there's 120+ teams looking for them. Even if you're the best talent evaluator, you'll be lucky to get 2-3 hidden gems every year and for everyone of them, you'll probably get even more busts even if you're good at it.

Your write up is cute and somewhat accurate besides the south florida part, but it's utopia to think this is THE blueprint to win championships... No matter the number of hidden gems you find, if your roster aint full of 5/4 stars, you aint winning any crystall ball!

You are totally missing his point. D Money isn't saying that Miami should be shopping on the clearance rack for their football players. Four and five stars players don't win championships. Four and Five star players with NFL talent wins championships.

If a Tri- county area of Palm Beach, Broward and Dade are producing the most NFL talent wouldn't it make the most sense to get both highly rated and lower rated players from that region.

Wouldn't it also make sense to supplement that with the best players from across the country, so you can have one of the most talented teams in the country?

I don't believe it's really a blueprint. Seems like more common sense to me.

80% of your class should come from south florida and the other 20% go national...... the best talent is in south florida no matter their star ranking...... draw a diagonal line from daytona beach to tampa and everything below it is fair game...... i consider jacksonville and northern florida part of the 20%....... game over
 
This is a myth. Miami's top teams never had that high of a percentage....

However, I do agree that a majority should be from Florida. I think somewhere around 65% would likely be where we've been over the past few decades...and I think that's a fair number to shoot for (if you have a staff that can pull in difference makers from out-of-state, which Richt can and will do....)

Correct. The odds are better with four or five star kids. I am disputing the idea that there are no more hidden gems in the modern era of recruiting. There are a ton of them. It just takes skillful evaluation.

There are hidden gems, but there's 120+ teams looking for them. Even if you're the best talent evaluator, you'll be lucky to get 2-3 hidden gems every year and for everyone of them, you'll probably get even more busts even if you're good at it.

Your write up is cute and somewhat accurate besides the south florida part, but it's utopia to think this is THE blueprint to win championships... No matter the number of hidden gems you find, if your roster aint full of 5/4 stars, you aint winning any crystall ball!

You are totally missing his point. D Money isn't saying that Miami should be shopping on the clearance rack for their football players. Four and five stars players don't win championships. Four and Five star players with NFL talent wins championships.

If a Tri- county area of Palm Beach, Broward and Dade are producing the most NFL talent wouldn't it make the most sense to get both highly rated and lower rated players from that region.

Wouldn't it also make sense to supplement that with the best players from across the country, so you can have one of the most talented teams in the country?

I don't believe it's really a blueprint. Seems like more common sense to me.

80% of your class should come from south florida and the other 20% go national...... the best talent is in south florida no matter their star ranking...... draw a diagonal line from daytona beach to tampa and everything below it is fair game...... i consider jacksonville and northern florida part of the 20%....... game over

Right on. It certainly isn't a causation but there has been a strong correlation between % of OOS kids and winning. Usually we've averaged 60-70% of the roster being in state.
 
More than half of the first rounders this year were three stars or below. They are there if you can find them.

There are only about 200 4 stars recruited every year while there are about 800 3 stars ,so your odds are still better to get a quality player with a 4 star kid.

Correct. The odds are better with four or five star kids. I am disputing the idea that there are no more hidden gems in the modern era of recruiting. There are a ton of them. It just takes skillful evaluation.

There are hidden gems, but there's 120+ teams looking for them. Even if you're the best talent evaluator, you'll be lucky to get 2-3 hidden gems every year and for everyone of them, you'll probably get even more busts even if you're good at it.

Your write up is cute and somewhat accurate besides the south florida part, but it's utopia to think this is THE blueprint to win championships... No matter the number of hidden gems you find, if your roster aint full of 5/4 stars, you aint winning any crystall ball!

Your last point is wrong. As an example, please take a look at this: ESPN.com: NCF - Tracking the Top 10 1998-2002

Our 2001 squad didn't have that many 4 and 5 star players.

Recruiting changed a lot since 2001, it's not the same game anymore, stop living in the past my man!

If you take a look at the last 5 champions, more than half their starters were 4/5* players and most of the 3* were seniors... There is only Auburn in 2010 that weren't full of 4/5*, but they were a ****** team without Cam Newton.

Right now, you cant say you don't need a lot of 4/5* to win championships...
 
1) The difference between Miami and those 120+ teams looking for "hidden gems" is that Miami is in the middle of the gem mine. And they should have the best information on where to look.

True, but every big staff in the country has at least 1 coach who is well connected in SFL, they can get any tape on any player at any given time. Miami can go see these players in person quickly, but that's about it!

Also, it's not because a player became a 1st rounder that he would've become one everywhere. Put a Khalil Mack or a Eric Fisher on Alabama, would they be Top 10 players or they would've been ate by the big sharks and you would've never heard of them? Theres good chance the latter happened. Most of the times, these 2/3* players became 1st rounders because they could see the field on smaller teams and were not see as scout players.

It's easy saying Skai Moore in a stud, but would he be a stud at Miami? Probably not with Golden!
 
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Excellent post, Darnell Money. I didn't see it until after I made my Butch Davis post, but it goes along exactly what Butch talked about a couple days ago.
 
Not many "hidden gems" in this day & age of recruiting. Butch was able to find them 25 years ago.

More than half of the first rounders this year were three stars or below. They are there if you can find them.

I'd hesitate to call three-star types hidden gems though in 2015. Three-stars in the state of Florida are still getting offers from Miami, Florida, Florida State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc. (on the high end). The mid-tier types are getting Rutgers, North Carolina, Arkansas, Virginia Tech type offers.

The state itself has upwards of 50+ 4-star types every year. South Florida has (safe to say) half of them. Another 200-250 or so 3-stars, with say, a third of them coming from Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach and a majority of those 3-star types are getting P5 offers and committing there. You'll get the occasional MAC or FIU/FAU/Bethune or non-P5 player in there, but if you look down the list of three-star players in South Florida, your hidden gems are getting offers from USF, UCF, West Virginia, Arkansas, Pitt, Northwestern, etc.

They may not be "Miami offers" but these are schools that, if they are showing you love since you were a junior, you aren't turning your back on them late for a Miami offer that just swooped in at the last hour because they missed out on 5 other recruits when Miami is pushing .500 seasons as mild successes.

As you say, its just different down here. A 3-star from Kansas might be getting offers from Kansas and Texas State. A 3-star from South Florida has 25 commit-able offers at any given time with many being P5.

Just a quick look - Looking at the 2015 prospect list on 247 composite. Three-star kids in South Florida that committed to a non-P5 or American Conference school (can't be clumping American in with MAC, CUSA, etc). 24 (doesn't include non-signees). Mostly FIU, FAU, and Marshall signees. There are over 100 three-star kids from those three counties rated as three-stars or better. Even if you're dumpster diving deep on the list, looking for lotto tickets, you're still seeing Rutgers types offers.
 
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One of the best and most on point things D$ has ever posted, and one of the best things I've read on this site.

It's really easy if you just give up your ego as a coach and follow the blueprint. Golden the know it all tried making his own blueprint. Randy was too overwhelmed to follow it. Coker was just lazy.
 
I might add that the blueprint was actually going back to JJs days, where he was concerned--no obsessed--with recruiting speed on defense.

JJ would rather recruit a great wrestler with insane athleticism and competitiveness, and then teach that dude how to play DT as he grew into his body, as opposed to chasing some kid who is already 300 lbs who dominated kids with his size in HS (ahem, Marcus Foston, ahem).

Doing this at every position basically ensured you had the fastest team speed on defense. You have to be an ego-less coach to do this, though, b/c it means your practices are more about teaching fundamentals as opposed to some creative scheme. It's also why so many Canes thrive in the NFL bc they spend college learning perfect fundies, instead of learning to play to some intricate system that they'll never play in again (like the Bama cats).
 
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Richt ain't gonna do **** right if he doesn't hire quality coaches and soon

EXACTLY!!!! Everyone is over analyzing recruiting. Recruiting South Florida is totally different from 20 years ago. These recruits wants quality coaches to help them get to the NFL. These kids don't love UM like that anymore and why should they we haven't won the Coastal since we joined the ACC. If you want this elite South Florida kids to stay it's easy beat Florida State and win the Coastal.

Bad coaching... okay go away to the SEC, but even Golden put kids in the league. If someone that grew up rooting for the home town Canes doesn't want to go to the U because of the dip in Championships in the last decade I DON'T WANT THEM. That to me is worse than most of these fair weather fans that fill the stadiums only when we are elite. Did anyone ever consider that is a heavy negative personality trait kids in cosmopolitan cities like Miami often learn. It's that flaw you see come out from certain guys that makes games like Clemson a loss by 50 instead of 21. Total Plague, avoid those kids as they will quit when things go downhill. That John Thompson quote was right on the money!!
 
I might add that the blueprint was actually going back to JJs days, where he was concerned--no obsessed--with recruiting speed on defense.

JJ would rather recruit a great wrestler with insane athleticism and competitiveness, and then teach that dude how to play DT as he grew into his body, as opposed to chasing some kid who is already 300 lbs who dominated kids with his size in HS (ahem, Marcus Foston, ahem).

Doing this at every position basically ensured you had the fastest team speed on defense. You have to be an ego-less coach to do this, though, b/c it means your practices are more about teaching fundamentals as opposed to some creative scheme. It's also why so many Canes thrive in the NFL bc they spend college learning perfect fundies, instead of learning to play to some intricate system that they'll never play in again (like the Bama cats).

Although I don't agree with some of what you post on this site, this post is 100% spot on.
 
[MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION]

I don't mean any disrespect, but how come with so much knowledge, you don't have some kind of job in football?
 
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