The Bank (5/19)

May 19, 2023

- I reported earlier today that the buzz was building between Miami and Central LB Vincent Shavers. I am able to confirm that is real and expect him in this class. He is a guy who has taken a huge leap between his junior year and spring and has blown away coaches, including Jason Taylor. Two other names to watch at LB are Keyshawn Flowers (Baltimore, MD) and Cameron Pruitt (Mobile, AL).

- Some folks at Miami felt that this past weekend was the best visit weekend they have ever been a part of. There were a lot of priority recruits on campus, but two who jump out are DT teammates David Stone and Jayden Jackson from IMG. There are a lot of combinations on how this DT class could go, but we want those two in any of those combinations. Other priority names to watch are Justin Scott (Chicago, IL), Jericho Johnson (San Francisco, CA) and Artavius Jones (Florida Panhandle), among many others.

- Miami also feels great about how the EDGE position is shaking out. They have done great work with Dylan Stewart of Washington DC (whom they view as a potential Top 5 NFL pick) and are firmly in the mix there. Other names to keep an eye on at EDGE are Marquise Lightfoot (Chicago, IL), Kamarion Franklin (Mississippi side of Memphis metro), Kendall Jackson (Gainesville, FL) and Marcus Downs (Greenville, SC), among others. Miami will take as many impact edges as they can get.

- Offensive line is down nationally and Miami’s five stars from last year are spooking some big names. Expect us to lean on evaluations. Names to know here are Top 100 prospect Isendre Ahfua (Seattle, WA), Deryc Plazz (Jacksonville, FL) , Joseph Ioanata (Clearwater, FL), Kevin Heywood (Philadelphia, PA) and Eddie Tuerk (Chicago, IL).

- Miami would love to pair Caleb Odom (Atlanta, GA) with Elija Lofton (Las Vegas, NV) at tight end and have momentum with both. Lofton in particular is a pure football player who can help at multiple spots. They just want to get him in the fold and that might happen sooner than later.

- Position versatility is something to watch with our recent transfers. Both Tyler Harrell (Alabama/Louisville transfer) and Shemar Kirk (JUCO) are guys who can play multiple spots at WR. We want to be a faster team and Harrell became a priority once we completed our process and cleared him health wise. Jadais Richard (Vandy transfer) is someone who can help at CB, nickel and S. We need big corners who can compete with FSU’s big receivers and Richard made clear he relishes that challenge.

- One transfer people are very excited about- Nebraska RB Ajay Allen. I was told he might be a “jersey guy”- as in, Canes fans might be wearing his jersey one day.

- As reported previously, Tulane’s threats regarding tampering caused Miami to cool off DB Andre Sam (Tulane transfer), who was likely to commit to Miami. The risk outweighed the reward. Ohio State’s unexpected involvement changed things with DT Tywone Malone (Ole Miss transfer). The issue with DT Kyvie Rose (Louisiana Tech transfer) was the country vs. city lifestyle.

- Miami is very much in the game for WR Jerrae Hawkins (IMG via West Virginia). They want speed.

- Miami will continue to monitor the Portal but I don’t think anything is imminent. Despite momentum earlier this week with Miami, I think Arkansas is the favorite for JUCO OL Amaury Wiggins.

- Miami loves what it has committed at safety with Isaiah Thomas (Clearwater via Canada) and Dylan Day (Baton Rouge). Day can play multiple spots and is bigger and faster than people think.

- Don’t sleep on Miami with RB Chauncey Bowens (Benjamin).

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supacane

May 19, 2023

Texas brought in that crazy class in 2022 on the OL. They brough in 5 more OL last cycle guess what they ranked. 193, 411, 555, 610, 820. Thats Texas that had a top 3 class last cycle.

This when people get mad and say you are defending the staff because facts do not matter to them.

TheOriginalCane

May 19, 2023

BeachCanes said:
Are we not that high on Booker Pickett?

We are.

Brains

May 19, 2023

Stone and Jones is how we can change the game.

May 19, 2023

Can we honestly stop asking why Georgia and Alabama can do things that we can't? It's blatantly obvious that those schools win championships and put guys into the first round yearly. While we're hoping to improve to 7-5 and finish in the top half of the ACC. Miami just doesn't have the credibility that the powerhouse programs have. Maybe if we start to win and turn a couple 5 stars into 1st rounders, we can do things that Alabama and Georgia do.

Brains

May 19, 2023

DMoney said:
UGA has won two titles in a row. What's our pitch?

A huge part of our pitch to Francis and Samson was early playing time. That is a much harder pitch when those guys are set to start through 2025.

Tell em those guys will be in the league by 2025. All that matters is that they believe it.

May 19, 2023

Cryptical Envelopment said:
We signed two 5-star tackles which is scary away other elite tackles. Very few interior OL are highly rated. There are zero 5-star IOL this year.

This. Guards and Centers are guys who aren't good enough to play tackle. The very best linemen are almost exclusively tackles. If you can't cut it at tackle, you get moved inside. You're not going to get a 5* guard to come play with our guys because there's no such thing a s a 5 star guard.

gogeta4

May 19, 2023

DMoney said:
- I reported earlier today that the buzz was building between Miami and Central LB Vincent Shavers. I am able to confirm that is real and expect him in this class. He is a guy who has taken a huge leap between his junior year and spring and has blown away coaches, including Jason Taylor.

If this were to happen i promise you i will shed a tear.

Like it wont get any better than Zaquan and Vince committing to us. @DMoney REAL TEARS and prophecy fulfilled

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sandimas0912

May 19, 2023

DMoney said:
We aren’t a big-time school right now and can’t operate with that kind of equity. Trying to build towards that. The bigger issue is that our young guys are either starting or in line to potentially start for multiple years.

I remember this happening with LB's when Richt took over. Shaq/Pinckney/McCloud being in place was used as the excuse for a lot of LB recruiting misses by Manny (plus some truly weird evals and takes). I trust Mario/Mirabal to not let the same thing happen with the OL.

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Calicane02

May 19, 2023

Have we fallen out of the breland and elijah rushing sweepstakes?

skillydoo

May 19, 2023

DTP said:
Can we honestly stop asking why Georgia and Alabama can do things that we can't? It's blatantly obvious that those schools win championships and put guys into the first round yearly. While we're hoping to improve to 7-5 and finish in the top half of the ACC. Miami just doesn't have the credibility that the powerhouse programs have. Maybe if we start to win and turn a couple 5 stars into 1st rounders, we can do things that Alabama and Georgia do.

No ****. What's our pitch? Bama and Georgia? We didn't even make a bowl game last year. When was our last bowl win? When was the last time we were even competitive in a bowl? These kids want to get in the playoffs and go to the NFL. Mario has his work cut out for himself.

The U is back to work

May 19, 2023

Did we get a commit?

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"U"crazy

May 19, 2023

Arkansas has beat us out for Wiggins, Rose, and Singleton! And now we're scared of Tulane? Gtfoh

Rellyrell

May 19, 2023

DMoney said:
And how does that compare to UGA's pitch, to use your example? They are putting multiple first round tackles in the pros (Broderick Jones this year) and winning big. A huge part of our pitch is playing time to make up for the lack of winning.

Does anybody think Mario and Mirabal forgot how to sell OL? They just landed two five stars. But we aren't UGA and Alabama and should not be compared to them right now for a million obvious reasons.

As for NIL, we set records with how much we paid for Francis and Samson. That's what happens when you need to overpay based on your status in CFB. I'm talking about that level of tackle. It's going to be hard for a repeat.

With respect to interior OL, we are leading for the top guard and center on our board (Ahfua and Ionata) and will also look at high-upside evals like Mario and Mirabal always do. That's what they did in Oregon to supplement the big fish like Sewell.

Selling 2 Nat’l Titles, huh?

OK, then riddle me this:

What were they selling in 2017-2019 when they signed Wilson, Thomas, Slayer, Mays, Webb along the OL?

Rellyrell

May 19, 2023

Cryptical Envelopment said:
It's wild to me that people here are so absolute and data driven with our program but make excuses for others. UGA's priority was defense? Did the OC and OL coaches stop recruiting OL and start recruiting DL or something?

In fact, in 2022 UGA signed a full 5-man OL class. What they did on defense has absolutely nothing to due with who they got on the OL. It was NOT a light OL class. They just couldn't attract the top guys. Maybe because, oh, I dunno, the roster was stacked and there wasn't a way to see the field soon?

The national rankings for their 5 OL in 2022 were: 45 (IOL), 353, 426, 664, and 784.

And, oh, isn't Miami "prioritizing" DL this cycle?

Data driven, huh? Lol. If u think that’s what I am, then my friend…yeah, I’ll just leave it like that.

JHallCanes

May 19, 2023

AUcane said:
Why is it that when the big time schools sign elite players, they do it year after year at the same position. But when we do it, it spooks kids the next year.

I’ll take “most obvious rhetorical questions on the planet” for 1 billion

JHallCanes

May 19, 2023

DMoney said:
Alabama has six championships under Saban and has produced 44 first rounders during his tenure. That's Alabama's pitch.

Miami's pitch is early playing time.

Earlier this off-season I mentioned it would be “interesting” to see how our OL recruiting played out

I didn’t even say we “couldn’t” land an elite class I just said I think the pitch changes a lot this year

You would have thought I suggested Mario can’t recruit with the overreactions

This is an absurdly obvious point I thought

Rellyrell

May 19, 2023

Cryptical Envelopment said:
It's wild to me that people here are so absolute and data driven with our program but make excuses for others. UGA's priority was defense? Did the OC and OL coaches stop recruiting OL and start recruiting DL or something?

In fact, in 2022 UGA signed a full 5-man OL class. What they did on defense has absolutely nothing to due with who they got on the OL. It was NOT a light OL class. They just couldn't attract the top guys. Maybe because, oh, I dunno, the roster was stacked and there wasn't a way to see the field soon?

The national rankings for their 5 OL in 2022 were: 45 (IOL), 353, 426, 664, and 784.

And, oh, isn't Miami "prioritizing" DL this cycle?

Also, I find it hilarious that u’re somehow trying to imply that we’re stacked at OL to remotely put ourselves in this same scenario. Lol.

CANEMC

May 19, 2023

supacane said:
BTW it seems to me Bama is stalking us on the trail. I know it sounds absurd but some of these players like Keyshawn Flowers has mostly big ten and northeast offers, plus us.....then Bama. I expect them to just go after the top 5 at the position since they can, while we have to do some more evaluation. Based on their transfers lately, i dont think their talent recruitment is as sound as its made out to be. Seems they pretty much just load up and absorbed the bad evals in the past. But with the portal its kinda exposing some of it. Just some random musing.

BTW they offered Chris Cole as well who is similar to Flowers as well and rated 3 star. If you watch film you know those two players are no 3 stars. Even though they border on 4. Cole is Rohan nephew so i think we good there. And as of now Flowers has us as his only OV set up in 2 weeks.

Saban respects Mario's evaluations. He's no dummy.

TheOriginalCane

May 19, 2023

DTP said:
Can we honestly stop asking why Georgia and Alabama can do things that we can't? It's blatantly obvious that those schools win championships and put guys into the first round yearly. While we're hoping to improve to 7-5 and finish in the top half of the ACC. Miami just doesn't have the credibility that the powerhouse programs have. Maybe if we start to win and turn a couple 5 stars into 1st rounders, we can do things that Alabama and Georgia do.

Yes.

I would also add that I hope that people will stop expecting us to ACTUALLY BE the recruiting equivalent of UGa/Bama within a year or two of Mario's arrival.

It's gonna take a couple of years to get to their level of "2-deep full of 5-stars".

CANEMC

May 19, 2023

DMoney said:
- I reported earlier today that the buzz was building between Miami and Central LB Vincent Shavers. I am able to confirm that is real and expect him in this class. He is a guy who has taken a huge leap between his junior year and spring and has blown away coaches, including Jason Taylor.

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