Rollin with Malik ...Great Value Russ Wilson

JHallCanes said:

MExtraMon9y said:

Finley isn't going out without a fight

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Him and Patchan could really help us

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I don't know....Finley looked like a linebacker on that interception return... if patchan looks anything like he did against FSU that is some great depth

fincane said:

mtnhermitt said:

Apples and oranges on the QB play. I don't know but I seriously doubt each QB got to work with the #1 offense against the #2 defense and vice versa for situational plays. Malik did well today and great for him and the team but we don't know if the other QB's were put in the same situations until someone that was there tells us so. Long ways to go before naming a starter. Until Perry completely craps the bed I'm thinking he will be given every opportunity to prove he is the man.

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Richt told us. They all got moved around and put in different situations. You can watch the highlights from today. Throws against different players, 1s and 2s for all the QBs.

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Yeah but the truth doesn't fit his narrative.

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

Brooklyndee said:

I'd have to call bs on this but I'll shut up. What richt meant by situational is Malik was getting alot of his reps when we were practing red zone,3rd & short,goal line. Most came against 3rd string too cause nkosi & sheriffs (nkosi in particular)were getting the early burn. Secondary had alot of pbu

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Where you there?

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Yup

Brooklyndee said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

Brooklyndee said:

I'd have to call bs on this but I'll shut up. What richt meant by situational is Malik was getting alot of his reps when we were practing red zone,3rd & short,goal line. Most came against 3rd string too cause nkosi & sheriffs (nkosi in particular)were getting the early burn. Secondary had alot of pbu

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Where you there?

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Yup

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so what were your overall thoughts? qbs, wrs, Oline, and DBs specifically. also, do you think richt should have the 1s going against the 1s?

fincane said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

Brooklyndee said:

I'd have to call bs on this but I'll shut up. What richt meant by situational is Malik was getting alot of his reps when we were practing red zone,3rd & short,goal line. Most came against 3rd string too cause nkosi & sheriffs (nkosi in particular)were getting the early burn. Secondary had alot of pbu

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Where you there?

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He might have been and not paying attention. Rosier completed two long TDs that might've been situational as they weren't driving from the 25 but it wasn't short yardage/red zone stuff. Unless Young and Dean have been demoted the long TD to Richards wasn't against third string players.

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I was paying enough attention. I didn't say how he got his tds (but honestly the only one I noticed was up the seem to Herndon. It was a **** nice read. Surprised me honestly.)the majority of his burn was against back ups though. To be clear I'm not saying anything bad right now about Malik or anyone else. Just stating what I noticed. Malik & sheriffs both looked night & day from spring but still too erratic. Pretty sure the starter has already been decided & that's nkosi. But it is just an opinion from a conversation I had. Oh & by the way Malik & Dean are 2nd unit majority of the time right now. Usual starters are Dee & Jackson. My understanding is Dee & Dean are getting a ton of consideration for the starting spots with Malik either in nickel or first off bench. Alot of options back there this uear.

CaneClassic said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

CanEs4life04 said:

The Franchise said:

LuCane said:

I think the whole "effective now" vs "the future" debate deserves its own thread (again). But, I fail to see why so many have emotionally invested in a particular QB candidate. Pick the guy who gives our badass defense the best chance of winning games and re-assess who's the best alternative at various points. It's ridiculously early in that process. Who knows what even happens over the next month.

Most agree Perry is the more gifted passer. But, Perry was not an EE. He's had to try to claw in to a race with two other guys. We've been taking Ls for over a **** decade. For now, give me the most effective and I'm thrilled to see wtf we do.

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Exactly. I'm sure Alabaga had more talented QBs on the roster than McElroy and Sims and Coker, but they won with those guys. I just want to see whoever gives us the best chance to win right now, and that might not necessarily be the guy who can make the most occasionally spectacular plays.

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The untold story is that Richt completely botched the QB situation over the offseason by 1. Reportedly not fighting to keep Kaaya, who for all his faults almost assuredly has this team in the ACC championship this season and 2. Reportedly not going after any grad transfer QBs. He was essentially okay with going into this season with the guys already on the roster, who are fringe Power 5 talents, and a true freshman who is not an early enrollee. Poor planning and foresight.

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Kaaya was leaving no matter what.

There goes your untold story.

Try again. This time try to come up with bullshīt that's more believable.

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Is that true? Was he?

Because I've always thought of Richt's non-recruitment of Kaaya as both telling and puzzling. Would like to know more.

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Yeah. He definitely was. It's hysterical how I told y'all the grade he came back with & nobody wanted to hear it even though I thought he'd come back his grade definitely held up. Him & richt just were oil & water to each other...

the23Watcher said:

Brooklyndee said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

Brooklyndee said:

I'd have to call bs on this but I'll shut up. What richt meant by situational is Malik was getting alot of his reps when we were practing red zone,3rd & short,goal line. Most came against 3rd string too cause nkosi & sheriffs (nkosi in particular)were getting the early burn. Secondary had alot of pbu

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Where you there?

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Yup

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so what were your overall thoughts? qbs, wrs, Oline, and DBs specifically. also, do you think richt should have the 1s going against the 1s?

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Only things that really stood out to me were the secondary looked good. Had a good amount of pbu. Dee is gonna be a monster for us this year. My guess is him & Dean start. They've both been putting a **** of a body of work together throughout camp. Two complete opposites in playing styles. Dee just muscles recievers while dean is so fast & lanky. Plays a more mental game with qbs & wr. Also im REALLY worried about our running game. In due time dallas & choc probably flip flop positions. Buddy from clemson wouldve really helped. Just cause we need bodies back there. Ones will go against 1s this week. First week is always more situational. It's about getting the reps in mentally rather than the challenge of executing it.

Brooklyndee said:

the23Watcher said:

Brooklyndee said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

Brooklyndee said:

I'd have to call bs on this but I'll shut up. What richt meant by situational is Malik was getting alot of his reps when we were practing red zone,3rd & short,goal line. Most came against 3rd string too cause nkosi & sheriffs (nkosi in particular)were getting the early burn. Secondary had alot of pbu

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Where you there?

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Yup

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so what were your overall thoughts? qbs, wrs, Oline, and DBs specifically. also, do you think richt should have the 1s going against the 1s?

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Only things that really stood out to me were the secondary looked good. Had a good amount of pbu. Dee is gonna be a monster for us this year. My guess is him & Dean start. They've both been putting a **** of a body of work together throughout camp. Two complete opposites in playing styles. Dee just muscles recievers while dean is so fast & lanky. Plays a more mental game with qbs & wr. Also im REALLY worried about our running game. In due time dallas & choc probably flip flop positions. Buddy from clemson wouldve really helped. Just cause we need bodies back there. Ones will go against 1s this week. First week is always more situational. It's about getting the reps in mentally rather than the challenge of executing it.

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are you concerned about the running game more because of the lack of quality backs or more because of the oline?

sounds like we might be able to be carried by the defense some this year

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

NY Shyne said:

Peter Ariz said:

NY Shyne said:

Good want the upper classman QB. No Ryan Williams ***** job.

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Ryan Williams tearing his ACL was a ***** job?

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he was ready for the Louisville game. Ask any player on that team.

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Pure comedy.

Not even medically cleared.

You have zero idea what you're talking about.

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penn state coaches can spin things any way they want

ILCane2011 said:

jd716 said:

Did Cager get any reps? Also no talk of Dean or Delaney?

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From other sites, Delaney played well but Dean got worked, particuarly by Richards

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Not completely discouraging, considering Richards is a beast

Brooklyndee said:

fincane said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

Brooklyndee said:

I'd have to call bs on this but I'll shut up. What richt meant by situational is Malik was getting alot of his reps when we were practing red zone,3rd & short,goal line. Most came against 3rd string too cause nkosi & sheriffs (nkosi in particular)were getting the early burn. Secondary had alot of pbu

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Where you there?

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He might have been and not paying attention. Rosier completed two long TDs that might've been situational as they weren't driving from the 25 but it wasn't short yardage/red zone stuff. Unless Young and Dean have been demoted the long TD to Richards wasn't against third string players.

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I was paying enough attention. I didn't say how he got his tds (but honestly the only one I noticed was up the seem to Herndon. It was a **** nice read. Surprised me honestly.)the majority of his burn was against back ups though. To be clear I'm not saying anything bad right now about Malik or anyone else. Just stating what I noticed. Malik & sheriffs both looked night & day from spring but still too erratic. Pretty sure the starter has already been decided & that's nkosi. But it is just an opinion from a conversation I had. Oh & by the way Malik & Dean are 2nd unit majority of the time right now. Usual starters are Dee & Jackson. My understanding is Dee & Dean are getting a ton of consideration for the starting spots with Malik either in nickel or first off bench. Alot of options back there this uear.

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If this is true, then did yesterdays scrimmage mean nothing?

We really needed another back last class. Pray to God Walton stays healthy all year otherwise we're looking at
Homer, Choc, Burns...that's not good at all

LOL. Gray can't get anything going running behind Jacob Goldstein and Crew at OL, so now our RB situation is a disaster. You guys never cease to amaze me.

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LOL. Gray can't get anything going running behind Jacob Goldstein and Crew at OL, so now our RB situation is a disaster. You guys never cease to amaze me.

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It ain't a disaster but we one injury from it looking very bad

Brooklyndee said:

CaneClassic said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

CanEs4life04 said:

The Franchise said:

Exactly. I'm sure Alabaga had more talented QBs on the roster than McElroy and Sims and Coker, but they won with those guys. I just want to see whoever gives us the best chance to win right now, and that might not necessarily be the guy who can make the most occasionally spectacular plays.

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The untold story is that Richt completely botched the QB situation over the offseason by 1. Reportedly not fighting to keep Kaaya, who for all his faults almost assuredly has this team in the ACC championship this season and 2. Reportedly not going after any grad transfer QBs. He was essentially okay with going into this season with the guys already on the roster, who are fringe Power 5 talents, and a true freshman who is not an early enrollee. Poor planning and foresight.

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Kaaya was leaving no matter what.

There goes your untold story.

Try again. This time try to come up with bullshīt that's more believable.

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Is that true? Was he?

Because I've always thought of Richt's non-recruitment of Kaaya as both telling and puzzling. Would like to know more.

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Yeah. He definitely was. It's hysterical how I told y'all the grade he came back with & nobody wanted to hear it even though I thought he'd come back his grade definitely held up. Him & richt just were oil & water to each other...

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If this is true then Richt deserves some of the blame. Kaaya was unequivocally the best option we could've had for this season and Richt's inability to persuade him to come back hurts us this season.

The Franchise said:

LOL. Gray can't get anything going running behind Jacob Goldstein and Crew at OL, so now our RB situation is a disaster. You guys never cease to amaze me.

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Would like to get him some spin behind the 1s

CanEs4life04 said:

Brooklyndee said:

CaneClassic said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

CanEs4life04 said:

The untold story is that Richt completely botched the QB situation over the offseason by 1. Reportedly not fighting to keep Kaaya, who for all his faults almost assuredly has this team in the ACC championship this season and 2. Reportedly not going after any grad transfer QBs. He was essentially okay with going into this season with the guys already on the roster, who are fringe Power 5 talents, and a true freshman who is not an early enrollee. Poor planning and foresight.

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Kaaya was leaving no matter what.

There goes your untold story.

Try again. This time try to come up with bullshīt that's more believable.

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Is that true? Was he?

Because I've always thought of Richt's non-recruitment of Kaaya as both telling and puzzling. Would like to know more.

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Yeah. He definitely was. It's hysterical how I told y'all the grade he came back with & nobody wanted to hear it even though I thought he'd come back his grade definitely held up. Him & richt just were oil & water to each other...

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If this is true then Richt deserves some of the blame. Kaaya was unequivocally the best option we could've had for this season and Richt's inability to persuade him to come back hurts us this season.

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based on what? I've never seen kaaya in his entire career display one lick of a nut sack

I'll take cade over kaaya, **** give me testaverde's boy

CanEs4life04 said:

Brooklyndee said:

CaneClassic said:

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:

CanEs4life04 said:

The untold story is that Richt completely botched the QB situation over the offseason by 1. Reportedly not fighting to keep Kaaya, who for all his faults almost assuredly has this team in the ACC championship this season and 2. Reportedly not going after any grad transfer QBs. He was essentially okay with going into this season with the guys already on the roster, who are fringe Power 5 talents, and a true freshman who is not an early enrollee. Poor planning and foresight.

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Kaaya was leaving no matter what.

There goes your untold story.

Try again. This time try to come up with bullshīt that's more believable.

Click to expand...

Is that true? Was he?

Because I've always thought of Richt's non-recruitment of Kaaya as both telling and puzzling. Would like to know more.

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Yeah. He definitely was. It's hysterical how I told y'all the grade he came back with & nobody wanted to hear it even though I thought he'd come back his grade definitely held up. Him & richt just were oil & water to each other...

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If this is true then Richt deserves some of the blame. Kaaya was unequivocally the best option we could've had for this season and Richt's inability to persuade him to come back hurts us this season.

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I am not sure that he was the best option. We need a QB that can not only throw the ball, which Kaaya did well most of the time, but one that can make plays with his feet as well. I'm not talking rushing for 100 yards, but simply being able to escape pressure, or run for 5 yards on 3rd and 4. I think a telling number from Kaaya's time here is the 3rd down conversion rate. It was never, ever good. Yes, the play calling wasn't always great, but having a QB with cement feet limits what you can do.

Also, there has been talk about how Kaaya wasn't exactly the most liked guy on the team. IF that is true, his loss might be better than most think.

I'm not saying the other QBs we have are better than Kaaya, but I am saying they will be better at some things, and those things could lead to a higher 3rd down conversion rate. We shall see.

I would not worry too much about the running back situation. If you recall last year that Walton was upset early in preseason, because he was not getting many touches. In my opinion, they are going to give more reps to the passing game to find the right QB.