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How does OC Rhett Lashlee set up big plays?
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So he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….
…..**** I always thought the idea was to gain yards on first down….I stand corrected…..
Right on queue.
Not every play is designed or called to score..nor are they to pick up 20..yes ALL OCs will call base plays in order to setup huge gains later in the game..EX: inside zone used to setup RPOS ect..NO it’s not always going to work..the defenses job is to sniff it out and get stops..thank you for making my pointSo he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….
His plays are kind of predictable and boring to be honest.. I prefer an actual balanced spread offense that uses the WRs in space and the power run game like Bama’s but I’m going to reserve final judgment until I see what having better WRs and hopefully oline do for this offense this season.
We’d luv for u to share your madden playbook bro..u seem like a wishbone/air raid hybrid type of guy
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Lol Too many throw away plays to set up the one big play. It gets us in wholes that we can’t get out of if the other team is scoring on us. And it’s usually just one primary target not multiple options at a time that is running a route for a big play which makes it predictable.
The oline just needs to improve bruh.
think about..Bama did nothing special the last 2 years to average **** near 50 per. They were pro style/ multiple. But they executed the simple **** that opens up big plays..along with having the best 1v1 talent. The oline Has to comtito grow
@Stevo365, what do you think?
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Same thing with the short passing game I have been clamoring for.
I liked what I saw in the spring. His install is progressing. I just want him to commit to the quick game over the middle. He would go there sporadically, but our execution was inconsistent.
Those plays are there for big yards. We just need the reps, cuz.
This was literally the topic in the last thread by OP. There were multiple third down plays that would have been easy conversions including some that would have went for big yardage had the execution been there. Lashlee likes to send his slot/inside guy deep to clear the middle for an outside receiver on a crossing pattern. Usually on third and medium type situations. They ran it against Clemson a few times but either King missed his man or the offensive line whiffed a block and they weren’t able to convert plays that would have picked up good chunks of yardage. The play caller can only call the play. If it’s designed to leave a wide open gap in the middle and there’s a receiver running through that wide open gap, that’s all you do as a coach. It’s up to the personnel to execute. The bigger problem against Clemson was our receivers inability to beat the jam, giving them a numbers mismatch on most plays because they could keep their SS near the line of scrimmage. There’s a reason they got a transfer receiver immediately following the season
Guess you’ve never played chess… your first turn/move you plan on winning alreadySo he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….
Indont think lashlee hopes that each of his plays will net negative yards but he has a plan to set you up for multiple heymakers
It’s not that the plays are designed throw away plays. Like i said earlier, ideally you’d like to get good positive yards on those inside zones and QB powers. The thing is, you have to understand your personnel and play the hand you’re dealt. They had a very subpar run blocking offensive line. There’s no special running play that’s going to make that unit consistent. Especially against the better defensive fronts like Clemson or Pitt. So you have two choices: 1) you can abandon the run and throw the ball 60 times. Bad idea when your quarterback’s best weapon is his legs, the offensive line is only slightly better at pass blocking than run blocking and Pope and Wiggins are your receivers. You’re just making your offense easier to defend and probably getting your quarterback killed. Or 2) you accept the fact that you’re going to have running plays that don’t gain yardage. But you’re at least able to keep the defense honest and set up plays that have the opportunity to go for huge gains. With an inconsistent line, getting 40+ yard touchdowns (which we had a ton of) matters a lot. We were not going to be able to put together 12 play drives and just march down the field against better teams. It’s just a sad fact that we didn’t have a lot of talent on offense. Specifically on the line and at WR. I mean besides King and Jordan was there any other player a contender would take from our offense? Nobody from our team would have been a starter for Clemson besides Brevin. Still, despite all that and the fact we didn’t have an FCS team to pad stats against, we had our highest scoring offense since friggin’ 2002.
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IMO lashlee used about 30 % of the playbook last season and most of what was missing was diversity in the run game. With c
Lashlee dialed up 2 TD playcalls that King underthrew and if you see my crossing route review two of those plays are 3rd down must haves in the clemson game that lashlee dialed up perfectly king just missed
All of this is true, but I would like to see Lashlee have more plays where those routes are the first read.
One thing I have noticed since Richt was calling plays is that our guys are good hitting rpo. They are not as good when they read deep and come back down to the crosses. Most plays are designed to be read deep to short because throwing deep late is a recipe for interceptions.
I could be wrong or missing something, but I think having plays with no deep route or with the deep route as strictly a decoy will help the quarterback’s poise and rhythm hitting the underneath stuff. Straight playaction will help too. Make the fake and give King multiple quick routes on the same side and let him choose.
The outside screen game is easy for the defense to see and react to. Your worst blockers(receivers) miss a block, and the play is dead. Rpo/ playaction will get us lots of yards and manageable downs and distance while forcing teams to be honest against the run.
We don’t have to waste so many plays on iz and quarterback power to get the deep shots. I know Lashlee likes the cross on 3rd down, but there will a lot fewer 3rd and longs if we use them on 1st and 2nd down.
I think that every coach from high school up calls set up plays. Some better than others but its always about execution. Great coaches figure out how to get their players to execute what's in front of them. If you can't execute the setup play you can't get to the big play.
Incomplete and dropped passes, missed blocks and all of the other little details that fail us have to be fixed. We have the talent to execute against Alabama today. I don't even care if we can't stop them, we've got to be able to move the ball. A good offense has a surprising effect on the defense and the plays that they can run.
Incomplete and dropped passes, missed blocks and all of the other little details that fail us have to be fixed. We have the talent to execute against Alabama today. I don't even care if we can't stop them, we've got to be able to move the ball. A good offense has a surprising effect on the defense and the plays that they can run.
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Where’s Roman? He pointed all these plays out in his post game recaps.
Lashlee brought us from the bottom 100 to to 33rd in the nation in total offense.
He did this during a Covid shortened spring in his first year of install with limited access to players.
How anyone looks at this and comes to the conclusion he isn't a phenomenal coordinator makes me concerned for their mental capacity.
| Year | Total Offense |
2018 | 105 |
2019 | 98 |
2020 | 33 |
While also handicapped with pope and wiggins
Nicely done.
