Fall Camp Intel: Offense

Fall Camp Intel: Offense

Stefan Adams

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Since when is St. Louis not playing his natural position? He didn’t move to right tackle until he got to Miami, he played left tackle throughout highschool... Same with Donaldson he’s been a right tackle and was only at guard due to Miami wanting the best 5 in the game, you had 2 capable tackles and needed someone to play guard so you put Donaldson there.

And I agree We do need to land those guys you mentioned.

Let's just say Neal was here. He'd be LT, Louis would be RT, and Donaldson would be Guard no question. Louis is certainly a capable LT and i'm not going to debate that. But Donaldson is G and his future is at G. We even started him a G this spring hoping a Tackle would step up. Again, i'm not saying he can't develop into a good OT because he's obviously a specimen but the kids a guard. He's a run blocking mauler, that's his #1 skillset.
 
Starving for info, thank you. Sunday can’t come soon enough!!
 
the fact that the Oline may still have issues creating a good, consistent push in the run game is troublesome. Simply put, too many drives died as UM failed to move the chains on 3rd and short , blame Rosier all you want for certain offensive struggles, but this is on the guys upfront.

And for Miami to really have a big season or take the next step, this unit to me is the most important on the team given that Clemson will stand in the way and they literally have an NFL d-line returning

But overall, this is the best roster Miami has had since the 04-05 teams(which will declining under Coker, still had a lot of NFL talent all over)

Let the games begin
 
Neal & Tarquin will be Freshman when they get on campus.

If it's bad that we have 3 Frosh in the 2 deep this year, then what's so different about adding those Freshman next year?

I'm talking about rebuilding this OL with players who are playing their true positions for the future. Next years OL isn't going to be any older or impressive on paper except scenario #1 imo. To me, scenario #1 gets the best talent on the field at the right positions. Writing the projection out has me even more worried. We need another body at OG his class too. If for some reason we could land Kardell Thomas i'd **** my f'n pants. I'm assuming Eukagan will be a C here and would be Gaynors backup but you certainly don't want a true freshmen at C if gaynor went down. So i'd assume they'd slide a guard over but i have no idea who that would be. Which makes scenario #3 all that more unlikely since that roster is already short an OG.

Scenario #1 (young at OT but UBER talented)
LT Neal / Campbell
LG Mahoney/ Boulware
C Gaynor
RG Donaldson / Reed
RT Scaife / Herbert or Tarquin

Scenario #2 (upperclassmen scenario, if you can add a grad transfer guard to shore this up i like it. )
LT Scaife/ Neal
LG Boulware or Reed
C Gaynor
RG Mahoney / ??????? ------In this scenario who's our 4th OG? Eukagan, Dykstra, or Hillary?
RT Donaldson / Campbell / Herbert

Scenario #3 (if we don't land Neal)
LT Scaife/Campbell
LG Boulware or Reed
C Gaynor
RG Mahoney / ??????? ------In this scenario who's our 4th OG? Eukagan, Dykstra, or Hillary?
RT Donaldson/Herbert or Tarquin
 
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Good to hear that Campbell and Herbert are showing good promise, because we will need them as solid contributors next year. Sounds like only Dykstra and Hillery are a ways away. Love with Searles is building. I want to see them dominate up front this year.
 
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Glad to see we finally have depth (at some positions) to where guys can redshirt. The new rule that allows them to play in 4 games really helps too. If Choc is really handling fullback, there's no reason to burn Realus' shirt. No reason not to redshirt Cam Davis if he's got five guys ahead of him on the depth chart. It's great to have impact freshmen that can come in and play right away but it sure is nice to know we don't need to rely on a whole bunch of first year guys anymore.
 
Looks like we're going to be playing a lot of 3 and 4 wide again.

I can't imagine Jordan will hold up as the starting TE as a Freshman. He's already admitted that he's been run over a little in camp.
 
the fact that the Oline may still have issues creating a good, consistent push in the run game is troublesome. Simply put, too many drives died as UM failed to move the chains on 3rd and short , blame Rosier all you want for certain offensive struggles, but this is on the guys upfront.
To be fair the OL is facing guys like Patchan, Tito, Ford and D Jax in practice.
That may be contributing to their woes.
Let's see how they do against opposing DLs on our schedule.
 
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I'm talking about rebuilding this OL with players who are playing their true positions. To me, scenario #1 gets the best talent on the field at the right positions. Writing the projection out has me even more worried. We need another body at OG his class too. If for some reason we could land Kardell Thomas i'd **** my f'n pants.

Scenario #1
LT Neal / Campbell
LG Mahoney/ Boulware
C Gaynor
RG Donaldson / Reed
RT Scaife / Herbert or Tarquin

Scenario #2 (upperclassmen scenario)
LT Scaife/ Neal
LG Boulware or Reed
C Gaynor
RG Mahoney / ( who else?)
RT Donaldson / Campbell / Herbert

Scenario #3 (if we don't land Neal)
LT Scaife/Campbell
LG Boulware or Reed
C Gaynor
RG Mahoney or Reed / ??????? ------In this scenario who's our 4th OG? Eukagan or Dykstra
RT Donaldson/Herbert or Tarquin
The "who else ??????" would be Hillery.

And people might assume Neal would be the starter at LT next year, but if you read all the Intel in OP the reoccurring theme at every position is players struggling to learn the offense. Neal from a physical standpoint is an elite prospect, but this Coaching staff particularly with Richt's offense does not just start Freshman unless they absolutely have to due to injury.

But I do understand what you're saying overall & even agree to a certain extent, just know that it's not going to happen like that because it never does lol.
 
Looks like we're going to be playing a lot of 3 and 4 wide again.

I can't imagine Jordan will hold up as the starting TE as a Freshman. He's already admitted that he's been run over a little in camp.

Personally I love this, Miami has a wealth of talented wideouts and if you can't play true physical, smash-mouth ball, well, lets not try and put a square peg to a round hole. With consistent, solid QB play, this offense should put up 35-points a game on the regular
 
The "who else ??????" would be Hillery.

And people might assume Neal would be the starter at LT next year, but if you read all the Intel in OP the reoccurring theme at every position is players struggling to learn the offense. Neal from a physical standpoint is an elite prospect, but this Coaching staff particularly with Richt's offense does not just start Freshman unless they absolutely have to due to injury.

But I do understand what you're saying overall & even agree with you to a certain extent, just know that it's not going to happen like that because it never does lol.

Lol i put Hillary in there a couple minutes later i forgot about him. I agree on Neal. I'm getting ahead of myself penciling him in there but the kid has top10 NFL pick written all over him and he's an early enrollee so i don't think Campbell would hold him off long. We've got Florida week 1 so that's a factor agains him. Not that i respect UF much these days, but they're no Bethune tune up.
 
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Not like the kid can't explode and rapidly develop, but pretty disappointed thus far in Lorenzo Lingard.
 
Not like the kid can't explode and rapidly develop, but pretty disappointed thus far in Lorenzo Lingard.
This is beginning to sound like the people who were disappointed with Jeff Thomas until mid- season.
Patience is a virtue.
 
This is beginning to sound like the people who were disappointed with Jeff Thomas until mid- season.
Patience is a virtue.

I get it. He's a true freshman. But Jeff Thomas wasn't a 5-star player, and he wasn't 5th on the depth chart behind a 5th year journeyman who hasn't played a meaningful snap in his career, nor a redshirt freshman who hasn't played competitive football since 2014.

He's got plenty of time. I just don't think a cream of the crop back, a first-round talent, a program changing player is ever 5th on a depth chart that contains Trayone Gray, Robert Burns, and Deejay Dallas (no knocks on those kids, especially Deejay who really looks like he's found a home at tailback, but they're not 5-star talents).
 
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O-line has been struggling to get a push for years. So i guess i can expect no running game vs lsu.
 
O-line has been struggling to get a push for years. So i guess i can expect no running game vs lsu.

Won't go that far but yes, this is a recurring theme. Pass-blocking has been above average for what seems like a decade while the constant story is Miami doesn't have a physically imposing, mauling, run-blocking offensive line.

Gotta play to your strengths. Get your athletes the ball in space if you can't line up with 6 and a fullback and knock people off the football.
 
I'm talking about rebuilding this OL with players who are playing their true positions for the future. Next years OL isn't going to be any older or impressive on paper except scenario #1 imo. To me, scenario #1 gets the best talent on the field at the right positions. Writing the projection out has me even more worried. We need another body at OG his class too. If for some reason we could land Kardell Thomas i'd **** my f'n pants. I'm assuming Eukagan will be a C here and would be Gaynors backup but you certainly don't want a true freshmen at C if gaynor went down. So i'd assume they'd slide a guard over but i have no idea who that would be. Which makes scenario #3 all that more unlikely since that roster is already short an OG.

Scenario #1 (young at OT but UBER talented)
LT Neal / Campbell
LG Mahoney/ Boulware
C Gaynor
RG Donaldson / Reed
RT Scaife / Herbert or Tarquin

Scenario #2 (upperclassmen scenario, if you can add a grad transfer guard to shore this up i like it. )
LT Scaife/ Neal
LG Boulware or Reed
C Gaynor
RG Mahoney / ??????? ------In this scenario who's our 4th OG? Eukagan, Dykstra, or Hillary?
RT Donaldson / Campbell / Herbert

Scenario #3 (if we don't land Neal)
LT Scaife/Campbell
LG Boulware or Reed
C Gaynor
RG Mahoney / ??????? ------In this scenario who's our 4th OG? Eukagan, Dykstra, or Hillary?
RT Donaldson/Herbert or Tarquin
how about:
LT: Scaife / Neal - Tarquin
LG: Boulware - Hillery - Dykstra
C: Gaynor - Eguakan
RG: Mahoney - Reed
RT: Donaldson - Campbell/Herbert - Tarquin
 
I get it. He's a true freshman. But Jeff Thomas wasn't a 5-star player, and he wasn't 5th on the depth chart behind a 5th year journeyman who hasn't played a meaningful snap in his career, nor a redshirt freshman who hasn't played competitive football since 2014.

He's got plenty of time. I just don't think a cream of the crop back, a first-round talent, a program changing player is ever 5th on a depth chart that contains Trayone Gray, Robert Burns, and Deejay Dallas (no knocks on those kids, especially Deejay who really looks like he's found a home at tailback, but they're not 5-star talents).
We have to wait until the actual games to see what he can do before we evaluate anything.
That goes for RB, the OL and everything really.

The season can't start soon enough.
 
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