DeAndre Wilder breakdown from his coach

DeAndre Wilder breakdown from his coach

Peter Ariz
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Kid needs to be redshirted to learn to play LB.

Big difference playing rush end or rush LB lining up at the line of scrimmage instead of behind the defensive line.

He will have to learn to first read the OL to see if it is a run or a pass, if the OLine comes out run blocking, then he has to look into the backfield, locate the ball, shed a block and make a tackle without having to think (LB instincts).

If the OLine drops back pass blocking, then he either drops back into his zone, or picks up his man, most likely a RB or TE.

All the film I have seen from Wilder is of him either lined up as a rush DE with his hand in the dirt or standing up at the line of scrimmage blitzing into the backfield every play.

Never seen him in coverage or diagnosing a play and attacking from behind his defensive line (traditional LB).

There will be a big learning curve for him to play LB in our system.

Everybody thinks that if you have the right size and speed then you can play LB...

LB is IMO 75% instincts and knowledge of the position and 25% size and speed.

Wilder does have a high ceiling, but will take some time to get there.
He's played LB his entire career until this season when he was asked to play rush end...
He's also going to be 19-20 as a Freshman, that means he's pretty much already a grown man.
 
Kid needs to be redshirted to learn to play LB.

Big difference playing rush end or rush LB lining up at the line of scrimmage instead of behind the defensive line.

He will have to learn to first read the OL to see if it is a run or a pass, if the OLine comes out run blocking, then he has to look into the backfield, locate the ball, shed a block and make a tackle without having to think (LB instincts).

If the OLine drops back pass blocking, then he either drops back into his zone, or picks up his man, most likely a RB or TE.

All the film I have seen from Wilder is of him either lined up as a rush DE with his hand in the dirt or standing up at the line of scrimmage blitzing into the backfield every play.

Never seen him in coverage or diagnosing a play and attacking from behind his defensive line (traditional LB).

There will be a big learning curve for him to play LB in our system.

Everybody thinks that if you have the right size and speed then you can play LB...

LB is IMO 75% instincts and knowledge of the position and 25% size and speed.

Wilder does have a high ceiling, but will take some time to get there.
He's played LB his entire career until this season when he was asked to play rush end...
He's also going to be 19-20 as a Freshman, that means he's pretty much already a grown man.

He has played rush LB and rush DE.

Please show me highlights of him not lining up at the line of scrimmage and rushing 98% of the time.

I'm going off his Junior highlites where he played rush LB standing up at the line of scrimmage and his Sr film where he seems to be mainly playing as a rush DE with his hand in the ground.

Compare Wilder's film to Spence, Perryman, Quarterman, Pinckney and McCloud's film.
You don't see any film of him in coverage or doing anything but pretty much rushing into the backfield from the line.

Huge difference.
 
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The Miami Hurricanes received a commitment last night from Carol City Chiefs linebacker DeAndre Wilder, who announced the commitment following his game.

Wilder is Miami’s third linebacker commit of the 2017 class, joining Waynmon Steed of Miami Central and Bradley Jennings, Jr. from Jacksonville. The 6-2, 200-pound Wilder has taken strides this year under his new defensive coordinator Damon Cogdell, who was the architect of the great Miramar Patriots teams of the 2010s with Ryan Williams, Geno Smith, Ivan McCartney, Stedman Bailey, Tracy Howard, Malcolm Lewis, Jermaine Grace and more.

Cogdell was working at West Virginia until this spring when he returned to south Florida to become Carol City’s DC. Cogdell shared his thoughts on the new Canes commit.

“I was hearing so much about the kid before I came, but he was so raw. He was a track kid and I didn’t have him in the spring. He probably only practiced five days with me in the spring, but I saw so much potential and upside,” Cogdell said.

“I had him practicing with the linebackers, but I put him at defensive end as more of a rover type backer in the games, so we could utilize his speed and his strength.”

That switch to defensive end has benefitted Wilder tremendously this season, as he has been a force to be reckoned with in the backfield. Although he has exceled at this spot, Cogdell says that his future is in more of a traditional linebacker position.

“He’s starting to learn the game and he’s working on his football intelligence. He is a sharp kid and when you get to know him, he has a ‘wow’ factor. He’s relentless, and you can’t coach speed. I think he has a frame be a big guy and play all three linebacker spots. He can play the weak side rush linebacker spot right now too,” Cogdell said.

“If they can put some weight on him, I think he’s a solid Mike backer.”

Cogdell thinks that Wilder’s decision to stay home was a smart one, and he sees some similarities between his former player Jermaine Grace and Wilder.

“I think that was a great choice for him. I coached Jermaine Grace at Miramar and Wilder is a little taller, but their body structure is the same and they’re both fast kids,” he said.

“It was important for him to have that supporting cast here at home,” Cogdell said. “It’s closer for him to be in Coral Gables – it’s a home away from home. If mom or anybody else wants to go see him, it’s a 20-minute trip, not a 20-hour one.”

Miami coaches are getting a high character prospect as well, according to Cogdell.

“He’s a ‘yes sir, no sir’ kid – he’s very coachable. I think Manny (Diaz) will do a great job with him and as his position coach. That’s a plus for him because as a defensive coordinator, he will be around him the most and know what to expect week in and week out.”


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Nice words from his coach. Sounds like a great get.

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He was much better and more comfortable when he was playing rush LB for CC. That's where they should have kept him this year TBH.

CC got some studs at linebacker this year also so if he can play de for them why not put best 11 on the field
 
Depth next year at LB -

Mccloud - Wilder - Gordinier

Quarterman - Steed - Smith

Pinckney - Owens - Jennings - Perry



Starting to look like normal Miami LB depth

We back (at linebacker)???
 
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Kid needs to be redshirted to learn to play LB.

Big difference playing rush end or rush LB lining up at the line of scrimmage instead of behind the defensive line.

He will have to learn to first read the OL to see if it is a run or a pass, if the OLine comes out run blocking, then he has to look into the backfield, locate the ball, shed a block and make a tackle without having to think (LB instincts).

If the OLine drops back pass blocking, then he either drops back into his zone, or picks up his man, most likely a RB or TE.

All the film I have seen from Wilder is of him either lined up as a rush DE with his hand in the dirt or standing up at the line of scrimmage blitzing into the backfield every play.

Never seen him in coverage or diagnosing a play and attacking from behind his defensive line (traditional LB).

There will be a big learning curve for him to play LB in our system.

Everybody thinks that if you have the right size and speed then you can play LB...

LB is IMO 75% instincts and knowledge of the position and 25% size and speed.

Wilder does have a high ceiling, but will take some time to get there.
He's played LB his entire career until this season when he was asked to play rush end...
He's also going to be 19-20 as a Freshman, that means he's pretty much already a grown man.

I don't get where some posters think he's an undersize de that's switching to lb. He's a lb that's played lb majority of his career, he just moved to de because he's a team guy. It was a coaches decision to athleticism on DL
 
Depth next year at LB -

Mccloud - Wilder - Gordinier

Quarterman - Steed - Smith

Pinckney - Owens - Jennings - Perry



Starting to look like normal Miami LB depth


SMH man, Gordinier's a reliable, solid second stringer, yet you put him third behind a high schooler? Let me guess, it's because he's white.

Right... because there's never been a successful white linebacker in this City.
 
Sounds like the perfect type of linebacker to come into this system. Raw talent that doesn't have to worry about starting right away and can learn from one of the best young linebackers in the country.
 
Kid needs to be redshirted to learn to play LB.

Big difference playing rush end or rush LB lining up at the line of scrimmage instead of behind the defensive line.

He will have to learn to first read the OL to see if it is a run or a pass, if the OLine comes out run blocking, then he has to look into the backfield, locate the ball, shed a block and make a tackle without having to think (LB instincts).

If the OLine drops back pass blocking, then he either drops back into his zone, or picks up his man, most likely a RB or TE.

All the film I have seen from Wilder is of him either lined up as a rush DE with his hand in the dirt or standing up at the line of scrimmage blitzing into the backfield every play.

Never seen him in coverage or diagnosing a play and attacking from behind his defensive line (traditional LB).

There will be a big learning curve for him to play LB in our system.

Everybody thinks that if you have the right size and speed then you can play LB...

LB is IMO 75% instincts and knowledge of the position and 25% size and speed.

Wilder does have a high ceiling, but will take some time to get there.

Assuming that is the case and if for whatever reason it never clicks.

If he can continue to develop as a pass rusher it'd be nice to have a situational guy who get after the QB.
 
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Two Miramar studs left to come to CC this year

Yasir Abdullah - Hudl
Yasir Abdullah is a 6-2/200 LB with unreal speed for that position 100m officially 10.75 below the HS national elite of 10.80. Christopher Henderson's best 100m is 10.77. Came from Naples to Miramar this spring then left to CC.

Jamare Edwards - Hudl
James Edwards DE who is now listed at 6-4 and 240. Been told by other players fathers bench presser well over 300 and squats over 400. He is used similar to Wilder (LB to DE) as he is moved from DE to DT position where his speed and quickness have really cause problems for other teams. He has the frame for another 20 no problem.
If that time is legit for Abdullah that's nuts. That's the kind of speed/size ratio we need to add to the roster.
 
Unless there are injuries none of these kids break the two deep IMO. Too many kids in front of them.
 
Two Miramar studs left to come to CC this year

Yasir Abdullah - Hudl
Yasir Abdullah is a 6-2/200 LB with unreal speed for that position 100m officially 10.75 below the HS national elite of 10.80. Christopher Henderson's best 100m is 10.77. Came from Naples to Miramar this spring then left to CC.

Jamare Edwards - Hudl
James Edwards DE who is now listed at 6-4 and 240. Been told by other players fathers bench presser well over 300 and squats over 400. He is used similar to Wilder (LB to DE) as he is moved from DE to DT position where his speed and quickness have really cause problems for other teams. He has the frame for another 20 no problem.
If that time is legit for Abdullah that's nuts. That's the kind of speed/size ratio we need to add to the roster.


I only post facts---Lou Bing Classis-- Feb 19, 2016 - Feb 20, 2016 -- Tropical Park Track

100 meter dash
1 Tyrese Cooper ......... 9 ... American HS................................... 10.63
2 Terrence Horne Jr. .. 10 ... Miramar HS................................... 10.66
3 Anthony Schwartz ... 10 ... American Heritage MS/HS (Plantation) 10.67
4 Shaun Shivers......... 10 ... Chaminade-Madonna College Prep... 10.71
5 Yasir Abdullah ........ 10 ... Miramar HS............................... 10.75
6 Taylor Banks .......... 9 ... Miramar HS................................... 10.80
7 Kedrick Green ........ 12 ... Boyd Anderson HS......................... 10.85

200M dash
1 Tyrese Cooper.........9 ... American HS.................................... 21.04
2 Jamal Walton.........10 ... Everglades HS................................ 21.63
3 Anthony Schwartz...10 ... American Heritage MS/HS (Plantation) 21.77
4 Shaun Shivers........10 ... Chaminade-Madonna College Prep.... 21.78
5 Dicaprio Bootl.........12 ... Miami Southridge HS ........................21.94
6 Yasir Abdullah.........10 ... Miramar HS................................. 21.97
7 Taylor Banks............9 .... Miramar HS.................................... 22.03
 
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Depth next year at LB -

Mccloud - Wilder - Gordinier

Quarterman - Steed - Smith

Pinckney - Owens - Jennings - Perry



Starting to look like normal Miami LB depth


SMH man, Gordinier's a reliable, solid second stringer, yet you put him third behind a high schooler? Let me guess, it's because he's white.

This kid is always forgotten because he is white, and not from Florida. What he is...probably the most versatile LB on the team. He can literally play all three spots. 6'4 238 and extremely smart. IMO - Diaz will put the best kids in that rotation next year and Gordinier will be in it somewhere.
 
Two Miramar studs left to come to CC this year

Yasir Abdullah - Hudl
Yasir Abdullah is a 6-2/200 LB with unreal speed for that position 100m officially 10.75 below the HS national elite of 10.80. Christopher Henderson's best 100m is 10.77. Came from Naples to Miramar this spring then left to CC.

Jamare Edwards - Hudl
James Edwards DE who is now listed at 6-4 and 240. Been told by other players fathers bench presser well over 300 and squats over 400. He is used similar to Wilder (LB to DE) as he is moved from DE to DT position where his speed and quickness have really cause problems for other teams. He has the frame for another 20 no problem.
Update on Abdullah:
OPA LOCKA, Fla. - Linebacker Yasir Abdullah (Opa Locka, Fla./Carol City) has the stars - four of them - on 247Sports.

"I was surprised (about the stars) and real happy," Abdullah said. "I hope I get offers now."

Now the offers should flow in soon for the junior.

Abdullah (6-1, 195) runs a 10.6-second 100-meter dash. He holds a 3.0 GPA.

As a junior, Abdullah has four sacks.

UCF and Florida are showing the most interest so far.

He said he's hoping for offers from Miami, Florida and UCF.

He hopes to visit programs this summer.

The four-star recruit is ranked as the nation's No. 16 outside linebacker and the No. 28 prospect in Florida in the 2018 class by 247Sports
 
Kid needs to be redshirted to learn to play LB.

Big difference playing rush end or rush LB lining up at the line of scrimmage instead of behind the defensive line.

He will have to learn to first read the OL to see if it is a run or a pass, if the OLine comes out run blocking, then he has to look into the backfield, locate the ball, shed a block and make a tackle without having to think (LB instincts).

If the OLine drops back pass blocking, then he either drops back into his zone, or picks up his man, most likely a RB or TE.

All the film I have seen from Wilder is of him either lined up as a rush DE with his hand in the dirt or standing up at the line of scrimmage blitzing into the backfield every play.

Never seen him in coverage or diagnosing a play and attacking from behind his defensive line (traditional LB).

There will be a big learning curve for him to play LB in our system.

Everybody thinks that if you have the right size and speed then you can play LB...

LB is IMO 75% instincts and knowledge of the position and 25% size and speed.

Wilder does have a high ceiling, but will take some time to get there.
He's played LB his entire career until this season when he was asked to play rush end...
He's also going to be 19-20 as a Freshman, that means he's pretty much already a grown man.

He has played rush LB and rush DE.

Please show me highlights of him not lining up at the line of scrimmage and rushing 98% of the time.

I'm going off his Junior highlites where he played rush LB standing up at the line of scrimmage and his Sr film where he seems to be mainly playing as a rush DE with his hand in the ground.

Compare Wilder's film to Spence, Perryman, Quarterman, Pinckney and McCloud's film.
You don't see any film of him in coverage or doing anything but pretty much rushing into the backfield from the line.

Huge difference.

Exactly...just b/c he played the "linebacker position" doesn't mean he knows ****. He is always rushing the passer. He will need a redshirt IMO.
 
Depth next year at LB -

Mccloud - Wilder - Gordinier

Quarterman - Steed - Smith

Pinckney - Owens - Jennings - Perry



Starting to look like normal Miami LB depth


SMH man, Gordinier's a reliable, solid second stringer, yet you put him third behind a high schooler? Let me guess, it's because he's white.

It couldn't be because, and bear with me a second, people have a tendency to be overly optimistic about guys who haven't played yet? On second thought, I'm sure you're right. I hope this guy gets band for being such a racist. Disgusting.
 
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