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Blake James wants an Indoor Practice Facility

Blake James wants an Indoor Practice Facility

Dan E. Dangerously
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Consigliere said:
zone3cane said:
Consigliere said:
I don't understand twitter but did Blake James say this?

BrianTheBeastLondon ‏@MiamiRadioBeast 2h
Blake James said he'd love it if The U had a stadium at Tropical Park..but there is no facility there..In other words .we need donors
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Where are all the mega rich UM alumni???.... **** this **** shouldnt be that difficult.
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It is not the DONOR's job to come to UM and make it rain on this *****. It is Blake's job to organize and plan for this, hence why I don't think Blake is the man for the job.

That is why I keep saying, how about a NEW plan? With a new fundraising campaign?
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You want to see a real AD, go look at Tom Jurich. Jurich is committed to do whatever it takes to make Louisville athletics a major power, and he's done an incredible job of that in a short time period. When bigger programs were courting Charlie ******* this past offseason, Jurich came right out and said, "whatever they pay you we will pay you just as much to stay here. Whatever you need to build a successful program, we will provide it for you."

Jurich is a get-it-done guy. Is Blake? The jury's out, but it doesn't look good when he makes so many ***gy public statements about getting UM a stadium. His first public statement as AD should have been: "We are going to build a stadium. Period. We are going to get it done and restore our homefield advantage and bring pride back to the program." He would have had everyone jumping out of their skin to support him and his plan.

The AD's job is to raise funds and to make this program the best in the country. This program has too many built-in advantages that it needs to be treated like the gem that it is. Shalala is a fund-raising machine. She can raise a billion bucks in a week. Blake should sit down with her and come up with a plan. If all these other bullshyt programs can build their own stadiums, then so can UM. No more limp-wristed sissified excuses. If Blake doesn't get it done, then he's Fake.
 
Franchise,

While I agree with the tone, the problem with expecting him to say that is that, behind the scenes, people are saying there's no ******* way a stadium gets built. So, if he comes out and says that, when it doesn't get done, he basically loses all credibility. You'd essentially be asking a general to come out and say we're going to win a war, even though the general was already told he wouldn't be given anything more than pistol and a "good luck" wish.

Agree with the intent and tone. Just don't know what he can do if he's explicitly told that **** isn't going to fly. UM put in a sick amount of money into Cedars and its hemorrhaging cash. They're putting all their funds into innovation and buildings in the Health district to protect their original move.
 
HeHateMe said:
Consigliere said:
BigCaneAl said:
HeHateMe said:
Consigliere said:
I know, it's amazing that we won 5 National Championships without that indoor practice facility. I mean it just starting raining over the last few years.
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http://kawneer.aias.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/3463.pdf
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Sadly, as a gables resident I know they would never allow that. Drop that into Tropical and now we are talking. As far as a multi-use facility.....please don't incorporate soccer! Makes the field too **** wide and the stands start too far away. Obviously if that's the only choice....oh well, but that's the worst aspect of Sun Life.
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I believe this as well. Tropical Park or the old zoo.
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I hear you guys. But, i wanted to show what a little ambition can bring to the table. This was designed by our students. Pretty awesome if you ask me.
Tropical Park is a viable option but, don't sleep on the Magic City Casino property. If it happens, you heard it hear first.
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I've mentioned the MCC property for a while to anyone who was discussing potential stadium locations:

10-24-2012, 02:41 PM
"I said it before - anyone interested in a new stadium should do the following:

(1) Buy Magic City Casino (only a few blocks from the OB site).
(2) Demolish Magic City Casino
(3) Build stadium
(4) Buy out remainder of UM's lease with Sun Life
(5) Welcome Hurricanes to new stadium

That was easy. Now get going."

10-24-2012, 03:32 PM
"...Magic City Casino is 29 acres. The old OB site (including both the county owned stadium and the city owned parking garages) is about the same as Magic City Casino. Marlins Stadium by itself (County owned portion - which does not include the parking garages) is on 14+ acres."
 
Consigliere said:
zone3cane said:
Consigliere said:
I don't understand twitter but did Blake James say this?

BrianTheBeastLondon ‏@MiamiRadioBeast 2h
Blake James said he'd love it if The U had a stadium at Tropical Park..but there is no facility there..In other words .we need donors
Click to expand...

Where are all the mega rich UM alumni???.... **** this **** shouldnt be that difficult.
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It is not the DONOR's job to come to UM and make it rain on this *****. It is Blake's job to organize and plan for this, hence why I don't think Blake is the man for the job.

That is why I keep saying, how about a NEW plan? With a new fundraising campaign?
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Surely you are joking?

Been on the job 6 months, no new stadium. Not the man for the job.

Signed,
Consigliere
 
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I'd just like them to at least try to discuss it. Come up with a plan and put forth the effort to see exactly how much it costs and how long the fund raising campaign would need to run. I'm tired of, "oh gosh...that would take so much money that it just hurts my little head".
 
LuCane said:
Franchise,

While I agree with the tone, the problem with expecting him to say that is that, behind the scenes, people are saying there's no ****ing way a stadium gets built. So, if he comes out and says that, when it doesn't get done, he basically loses all credibility. You'd essentially be asking a general to come out and say we're going to win a war, even though the general was already told he wouldn't be given anything more than pistol and a "good luck" wish.

Agree with the intent and tone. Just don't know what he can do if he's explicitly told that **** isn't going to fly. UM put in a sick amount of money into Cedars and its hemorrhaging cash. They're putting all their funds into innovation and buildings in the Health district to protect their original move.
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Admittedly, I don't know UM's finances in any detail. I do, however, know that UM can raise money with the best.

I'm not sure that UM's medical school investments would affect a UM fundraising effort by the athletic department. I think that UM's athletic department could probably spearhead a fundraising effort for a stadium, and I'm pretty sure it would be separate from the medical school stuff. Again, though, I don't purport to have any inside knowledge or expertise on the interrelatedness of the two branches--academic and athletic fundraising.

If you have first-hand knowledge that Blake has been told by Shalala and/or the Trustees that they'd never let him raise funds to build a stadium, then I will discontinue criticizing him for not being stronger on this issue.
 
The Franchise said:
Consigliere said:
zone3cane said:
Consigliere said:
I don't understand twitter but did Blake James say this?

BrianTheBeastLondon ‏@MiamiRadioBeast 2h
Blake James said he'd love it if The U had a stadium at Tropical Park..but there is no facility there..In other words .we need donors
Click to expand...

Where are all the mega rich UM alumni???.... **** this **** shouldnt be that difficult.
Click to expand...


It is not the DONOR's job to come to UM and make it rain on this *****. It is Blake's job to organize and plan for this, hence why I don't think Blake is the man for the job.

That is why I keep saying, how about a NEW plan? With a new fundraising campaign?
Click to expand...

You want to see a real AD, go look at Tom Jurich. Jurich is committed to do whatever it takes to make Louisville athletics a major power, and he's done an incredible job of that in a short time period. When bigger programs were courting Charlie ******* this past offseason, Jurich came right out and said, "whatever they pay you we will pay you just as much to stay here. Whatever you need to build a successful program, we will provide it for you."

Jurich is a get-it-done guy. Is Blake? The jury's out, but it doesn't look good when he makes so many ***gy public statements about getting UM a stadium. His first public statement as AD should have been: "We are going to build a stadium. Period. We are going to get it done and restore our homefield advantage and bring pride back to the program." He would have had everyone jumping out of their skin to support him and his plan.

The AD's job is to raise funds and to make this program the best in the country. This program has too many built-in advantages that it needs to be treated like the gem that it is. Shalala is a fund-raising machine. She can raise a billion bucks in a week. Blake should sit down with her and come up with a plan. If all these other bullshyt programs can build their own stadiums, then so can UM. No more limp-wristed sissified excuses. If Blake doesn't get it done, then he's Fake.
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Louisville is not comparable to Miami though due to basketball revenue:

Louisville:
Total Revenues by Team
Varsity TeamsMen's TeamsWomen's TeamsTotal
Basketball$42,434,684$959,351$43,394,035
Football$23,756,955 $23,756,955
Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined$465,559$529,365$994,924
Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams$66,657,198$1,488,716$68,145,914
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $19,694,590
Grand Total for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport) $87,840,504

Miami:
Basketball$9,436,615$838,984$10,275,599
Football$29,278,750 $29,278,750
Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined$2,318,553$4,201,111$6,519,664
Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams$41,033,918$5,040,095$46,074,013
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $16,025,588
Grand Total for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport) $62,099,601
 
Andrew said:
Ernie McCracken said:
Andrew said:
Ernie McCracken said:
arizonacane said:
Where you gonna build a stadium, and who's gonna pay for it?
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Blah blah blah.

I live in Dallas, and a local high school here just finished building a brand new 30,000 seat stadium at over $60 million.

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/high-school/New-60-million-Allen-stadium-one-of-a-kind-164931536.html

Another local high school in Dallas is building one just like it to compete. And you're telling me the University of Miami can't keep up with some Texas high school?
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I might try and go see a game here. I wish they were playing Southlake in Allen this year.
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The Coppell game is on 9/27 and should be a **** of a game. They should be in the national championship discussion. DE Solomon Thomas is one to watch for sure.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Solomon-Thomas-128405
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Maybe thats the one I go and see. The is my first football season in Texas so it should be fun.
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Andrew - August 30, Allen vs Southlake Carroll in Southlake. This will be the Texas HS football experience that you want to see. GO TO THIS GAME and come back and tell everyone that you now understand what Swag's been talkin' 'bout.
 
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Just curious, if some private citizen came forth and said "Here is a check for $______.__, go build a stadium", what would that $ amount have to be for them to say "Yes, this will do it, let's get after it". ?
 
TheSwagger1 said:
Just curious, if some private citizen came forth and said "Here is a check for $______.__, go build a stadium", what would that $ amount have to be for them to say "Yes, this will do it, let's get after it". ?
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one billion dollars.

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but really, probably a lot more than what we'd expect.
 
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DapperSlapper said:
The Franchise said:
Consigliere said:
zone3cane said:
Consigliere said:
I don't understand twitter but did Blake James say this?

BrianTheBeastLondon ‏@MiamiRadioBeast 2h
Blake James said he'd love it if The U had a stadium at Tropical Park..but there is no facility there..In other words .we need donors
Click to expand...

Where are all the mega rich UM alumni???.... **** this **** shouldnt be that difficult.
Click to expand...


It is not the DONOR's job to come to UM and make it rain on this *****. It is Blake's job to organize and plan for this, hence why I don't think Blake is the man for the job.

That is why I keep saying, how about a NEW plan? With a new fundraising campaign?
Click to expand...

You want to see a real AD, go look at Tom Jurich. Jurich is committed to do whatever it takes to make Louisville athletics a major power, and he's done an incredible job of that in a short time period. When bigger programs were courting Charlie ******* this past offseason, Jurich came right out and said, "whatever they pay you we will pay you just as much to stay here. Whatever you need to build a successful program, we will provide it for you."

Jurich is a get-it-done guy. Is Blake? The jury's out, but it doesn't look good when he makes so many ***gy public statements about getting UM a stadium. His first public statement as AD should have been: "We are going to build a stadium. Period. We are going to get it done and restore our homefield advantage and bring pride back to the program." He would have had everyone jumping out of their skin to support him and his plan.

The AD's job is to raise funds and to make this program the best in the country. This program has too many built-in advantages that it needs to be treated like the gem that it is. Shalala is a fund-raising machine. She can raise a billion bucks in a week. Blake should sit down with her and come up with a plan. If all these other bullshyt programs can build their own stadiums, then so can UM. No more limp-wristed sissified excuses. If Blake doesn't get it done, then he's Fake.
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Louisville is not comparable to Miami though due to basketball revenue:

Louisville:
Total Revenues by Team
Varsity TeamsMen's TeamsWomen's TeamsTotal
Basketball$42,434,684$959,351$43,394,035
Football$23,756,955 $23,756,955
Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined$465,559$529,365$994,924
Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams$66,657,198$1,488,716$68,145,914
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $19,694,590
Grand Total for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport) $87,840,504

Miami:
Basketball$9,436,615$838,984$10,275,599
Football$29,278,750 $29,278,750
Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined$2,318,553$4,201,111$6,519,664
Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams$41,033,918$5,040,095$46,074,013
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $16,025,588
Grand Total for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport) $62,099,601
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That doesn't have much to do with the ability to fund-raise though. I'm not expecting UM to build a stadium from its sports revenue. I'd bet Louisville's basketball expenditures are significantly higher than UM's too.
 
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Blake James and the whole athletic department is a joke. It's not hard to build a stadium at tropical park. Fof $100 million, Miami could build the stadium obtain a no cost 99 year lease for the property from the city for 12-15 days a year. that is a drop in the bucket. It is his job to announce the campaign for a stadium. This should be priority number 1.
 
TheSwagger1 said:
Just curious, if some private citizen came forth and said "Here is a check for $______.__, go build a stadium", what would that $ amount have to be for them to say "Yes, this will do it, let's get after it". ?
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200m to 250m
 
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I don't want an on campus stadium. I just want the OB back.
 
DiegoCane said:
Consigliere said:
zone3cane said:
Consigliere said:
I don't understand twitter but did Blake James say this?

BrianTheBeastLondon ‏@MiamiRadioBeast 2h
Blake James said he'd love it if The U had a stadium at Tropical Park..but there is no facility there..In other words .we need donors
Click to expand...

Where are all the mega rich UM alumni???.... **** this **** shouldnt be that difficult.
Click to expand...


It is not the DONOR's job to come to UM and make it rain on this *****. It is Blake's job to organize and plan for this, hence why I don't think Blake is the man for the job.

That is why I keep saying, how about a NEW plan? With a new fundraising campaign?
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Surely you are joking?

Been on the job 6 months, no new stadium. Not the man for the job.

Signed,
Consigliere
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Hate his tone, not the guy I believe can get UM what he needs. Prove me wrong Blake.
 
i think miami will always be miami but i feel our program will take a major jump if we get our own stadium i think the tax payers should chip in i mean this is our home town team and we should support these guys florida and fsu get goverment funding even tho were a privet school we should still get a little help i mean fau and fiu have there own stadium... man i think we should leave the ACC and go independent like ND and really profit off our brand....
 
The Franchise said:
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That doesn't have much to do with the ability to fund-raise though. I'm not expecting UM to build a stadium from its sports revenue. I'd bet Louisville's basketball expenditures are significantly higher than UM's too.
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I meant that as a response solely to the quotes about Strong's salary. Louisville has more to play with, and some of their extra expenditures are most definitely for coaches.

Louisville:
Total Expenses by Team
Varsity TeamsMen's TeamsWomen's TeamsTotal
Basketball$15,489,954$3,279,449$18,769,403
Football$18,769,539 $18,769,539
Total Expenses of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined$6,204,195$10,529,008$16,733,203
Total Expenses Men's and Women's Teams$40,463,688$13,808,457$54,272,145
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $30,211,646
Grand Total Expenses $84,483,791

Revenues and Expenses Summary
Men's TeamsWomen's TeamsTotal
1Total of Head Coaches' Salaries$7,357,752$1,743,632$9,101,384
2Total of Assistant Coaches' Salaries$3,766,256$1,395,275$5,161,531
3Total Salaries (Lines 1+2)$11,124,008$3,138,907$14,262,915
4Athletically Related Student Aid$4,672,374$4,237,817$8,910,191
5Recruiting Expenses$876,010$383,836$1,259,846
6Operating (Game-Day) Expenses$7,385,023$2,885,650$10,270,673
7Summary of Subset Expenses (Lines 3+4+5+6)$24,057,415$10,646,210$34,703,625
8Total Expenses for Teams$40,463,688$13,808,457$54,272,145
9Total Expenses for Teams Minus Subset Expenses (Line 8 – Line 7)$16,406,273$3,162,247$19,568,520
10Not Allocated Expenses $30,211,646
11Grand Total Expenses (Lines 8+10) $84,483,791
12Total Revenues for Teams$66,657,198$1,488,716$68,145,914
13Not Allocated Revenues $19,694,590
14Grand Total Revenues (Lines 12+13) $87,840,504
15Total Revenues for Teams minus Total Expenses for Teams (Line 12-Line 8)$26,193,510-$12,319,741$13,873,769
16Grand Total Revenues Minus Grand Total Expenses (Line 14- Line 11) $3,356,713

Miami:
Total Expenses by Team
Varsity TeamsMen's TeamsWomen's TeamsTotal
Basketball$5,795,451$4,098,605$9,894,056
Football$22,331,630 $22,331,630
Total Expenses of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined$4,419,151$8,146,890$12,566,041
Total Expenses Men's and Women's Teams$32,546,232$12,245,495$44,791,727
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $17,091,776
Grand Total Expenses $61,883,503

Revenues and Expenses Summary
Men's TeamsWomen's TeamsTotal
1Total of Head Coaches' Salaries$3,507,732$1,129,095$4,636,827
2Total of Assistant Coaches' Salaries$3,311,259$776,512$4,087,771
3Total Salaries (Lines 1+2)$6,818,991$1,905,607$8,724,598
4Athletically Related Student Aid$7,487,321$5,836,334$13,323,655
5Recruiting Expenses$581,530$261,413$842,943
6Operating (Game-Day) Expenses$5,974,180$1,638,953$7,613,133
7Summary of Subset Expenses (Lines 3+4+5+6)$20,862,022$9,642,307$30,504,329
8Total Expenses for Teams$32,546,232$12,245,495$44,791,727
9Total Expenses for Teams Minus Subset Expenses (Line 8 – Line 7)$11,684,210$2,603,188$14,287,398
10Not Allocated Expenses $17,091,776
11Grand Total Expenses (Lines 8+10) $61,883,503
12Total Revenues for Teams$41,033,918$5,040,095$46,074,013
13Not Allocated Revenues $16,025,588
14Grand Total Revenues (Lines 12+13) $62,099,601
15Total Revenues for Teams minus Total Expenses for Teams (Line 12-Line 8)$8,487,686-$7,205,400$1,282,286
16Grand Total Revenues Minus Grand Total Expenses (Line 14- Line 11) $216,098
 
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