Article: Alex Collins Chatter

Nov 4, 2012

In order to cut back on the amount of threads we have on him and all the rumors surrounding him, lets try to keep it in here.

**11/3- meant to post this Friday, but a current Miami commitment told me this in reference to Collins: "He's going to FSU"

**11/4- Just interviewed John Franklin for SFHSSPORTS and this is what he had to say about the situation with Collins: "We haven't talked that much about it actually. Before any of this went down with the offers, we had always talked about wanting to play college ball together. It's definitely something we wanted to do, but at the end of the day, he's doing what's best for him and i'm doing what's best for me."

**11/7- Today's decommitment is not a surprise. Talking to a of Miami commit last week who knows him, he said it was only a matter of time before this happened. Miami is still in the picture, but it will be an uphill battle. It was an uphill battle the second FSU offered Franklin. I tried posting this last week, but I don't think some of you realized how big of a deal it was for these two to play together.

Don't expect a final decision from him until his season at South Plantation is over.

Where does Miami go from here? The pursuit of Derrick Green is on. He fits what they are looking for as far as a power back. The key will be getting him on campus for a visit. If that happens, the Canes have a legitimate chance with him. The staff knows that they would have Daryl Chestnut in the bag as soon as they offer, so my hunch is that they will go after a guy like Green before him due to their running styles. In the worst case scenario, they could offer Chestnut late and he would commit, which is not a bad back-up plan whatsoever. While he doesn't necessarily fill the big back spot, he is the type of player that people will be asking "How did he get away?"

I will be gathering more info throughout the day, but this is what I know for now

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WhatTheHell

Dec 11, 2012

5Ringz said:
WhatTheHell said:

If the kids are mixed up and hanging around some bull****, I suppose the Mother's feelings are let's get this kid as far away from the bad influences as possible.

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So If you're a parent and you live in Broward......and your kid is getting into trouble......would you rather them just get as far away as possible and not even be able to keep tabs on them as to who and where they are hanging out???

Or would you rather send them to the richest neighborhood in South Florida about 45 minutes away where he is far enough to stay away from the hood but close enough so that you can still look after him and make sure he is doing ok?

If my kid was in a gang or dealing drugs, and he could still hang out with the same group of kids from high school on the weekends, yeah I'd want him to go somewhere else and start fresh. Meet new people. Get away from the bull**** and hopefully open his eyes to a bigger world and better possibilities than that bull**** he got caught up in. If he's away from that culture and those kids for long enough, maybe he can see the bigger picture and grow up.

But I'm a Canes fan, so I'd tell him to **** off, keep slangin' and get his ***** *** to Miami ASAP.

tokengator

Dec 11, 2012

5Ringz said:
WhatTheHell said:

If the kids are mixed up and hanging around some bull****, I suppose the Mother's feelings are let's get this kid as far away from the bad influences as possible.

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So If you're a parent and you live in Broward......and your kid is getting into trouble......would you rather them just get as far away as possible and not even be able to keep tabs on them as to who and where they are hanging out???

Or would you rather send them to the richest neighborhood in South Florida about 45 minutes away where he is far enough to stay away from the hood but close enough so that you can still look after him and make sure he is doing ok?

who said Collins is getting in trouble? The person only said collins needs to leave to town. Does not mean he is getting in trouble. Maybe he has a creepy glory seeking father in the area the mother wants him out of his reach? maybe there is a hit on the family? who the **** knows man

You are assuming way too much. People have legitimate reasons for wanting to get away and you are dismissing all of them because you can't understand them

weownfsu

Dec 11, 2012

FWIW I have only heard that Collins' family wants him close to home and at UM.

5Ringz

Dec 11, 2012

tokengator said:
5Ringz said:

WhatTheHell said:

If the kids are mixed up and hanging around some bull****, I suppose the Mother's feelings are let's get this kid as far away from the bad influences as possible.

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So If you're a parent and you live in Broward......and your kid is getting into trouble......would you rather them just get as far away as possible and not even be able to keep tabs on them as to who and where they are hanging out???

Or would you rather send them to the richest neighborhood in South Florida about 45 minutes away where he is far enough to stay away from the hood but close enough so that you can still look after him and make sure he is doing ok?

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who said Collins is getting in trouble? The person only said collins needs to leave to town. Does not mean he is getting in trouble. Maybe he has a creepy glory seeking father in the area the mother wants him out of his reach?

who the **** knows man. You are assuming way too much. People have legitimate reasons for wanting to get away and you are dismissing all of them because you can't understand them

Get off our boards bruh.

5Ringz

Dec 11, 2012

weownfsu said:
FWIW I have only heard that Collins' family wants him close to home and at UM.

So is it Keef Bryant they talking about?

He goona leave his kid in Miami maeng??

Token you want to justify being a dead beat dad too?

How about we let Toke justify the 911 terrorist attack. I'm sure Toke can explain why that was neccesaary

tokengator

Dec 11, 2012

5Ringz said:
weownfsu said:

FWIW I have only heard that Collins' family wants him close to home and at UM.

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So is it Keef Bryant they talking about?

He goona leave his kid in Miami maeng??

Token you want to justify being a dead beat dad too?

How about we let Toke justify the 911 terrorist attack. I'm sure Toke can explain why that was neccesaary

i don't have to justify anything. It isn' my life. You are the one sticking your nose all up in other peoples lives telling them what they should or shouldnt be doing. Maybe you need to justify that

WhatTheHell

Dec 11, 2012

I'm gonna adopt Alex Collins.

5Ringz

Dec 11, 2012

tokengator said:
5Ringz said:

weownfsu said:

FWIW I have only heard that Collins' family wants him close to home and at UM.

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So is it Keef Bryant they talking about?

He goona leave his kid in Miami maeng??

Token you want to justify being a dead beat dad too?

How about we let Toke justify the 911 terrorist attack. I'm sure Toke can explain why that was neccesaary

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i don't have to justify anything. It isn' my life. You are the one sticking your nose all up in other peoples lives telling them what they should or shouldnt be doing. Maybe you need to justify that

Get yo nose out of MY LIFE bruh. I don't need to justify **** ***** u aint judge judy. You need to mind yo own **** business and let me mind Collin's buisness.

CANE4LIFE

Dec 11, 2012

Ringz, I feel you dude, but I cant agree with you all the way here.

I AGREE that UM itself is probably the best environment for most of these kids. Its a smaller private school, with a much more tight knit family environment, so its harder for kids to get lost in the shuffle or just go crazy in a giant state school environment.

That said, for kids who grew up in the hood, and have issues they need to get away from, Coral Gables is too close for comfort. Its only a matter of time before their goon buddies come to visit them on campus, until they are haning out in the old neighborhood at parties, seeing their old boys, and that is when the trouble starts.

As a parent, you want your kid to have the best chance of getting "out" of those situations, and if that means moving 400 miles away to a new environment where they can shake their old "crew" then many think its the best solution. Now, is it a GREAT solution? No. You are very correct that drug use and trouble can just as easily find a kid in Tally, as it will in Miami. In fact, over the last decade, FSU and UF have had more trouble makers and thugs than UM has. But if you were the parent of a kid living in some South Florida hood, what other options do you have? Your first instict is to get them away from the source of the trouble. THat doesnt mean they arent going to find NEW trouble in a place like Tally, but you cant blame the parents for trying to help their kids.

I think its a FAIR discussion to have, but I dont think you can blame the parents here for trying to do what is best for their sons. But I think it is worth debating wether or not it is effective, since in many of these cases, it seems to be a wash, since the kids end up hooking up with another bunch of goons and thugs in places like Tally and Gainsville and with NO supervision, end up getting in trouble there too.

tokengator

Dec 11, 2012

5Ringz said:
tokengator said:

5Ringz said:

weownfsu said:

FWIW I have only heard that Collins' family wants him close to home and at UM.

Click to expand...

So is it Keef Bryant they talking about?

He goona leave his kid in Miami maeng??

Token you want to justify being a dead beat dad too?

How about we let Toke justify the 911 terrorist attack. I'm sure Toke can explain why that was neccesaary

Click to expand...

i don't have to justify anything. It isn' my life. You are the one sticking your nose all up in other peoples lives telling them what they should or shouldnt be doing. Maybe you need to justify that

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Get yo nose out of MY LIFE bruh. I don't need to justify **** ***** u aint judge judy. You need to mind yo own **** business and let me mind Collin's buisness.

lol

tokengator

Dec 11, 2012

CANE4LIFE said:
Ringz, I feel you dude, but I cant agree with you all the way here.

I AGREE that UM itself is probably the best environment for most of these kids. Its a smaller private school, with a much more tight knit family environment, so its harder for kids to get lost in the shuffle or just go crazy in a giant state school environment.

That said, for kids who grew up in the hood, and have issues they need to get away from, Coral Gables is too close for comfort. Its only a matter of time before their goon buddies come to visit them on campus, until they are haning out in the old neighborhood at parties, seeing their old boys, and that is when the trouble starts.

As a parent, you want your kid to have the best chance of getting "out" of those situations, and if that means moving 400 miles away to a new environment where they can shake their old "crew" then many think its the best solution. Now, is it a GREAT solution? No. You are very correct that drug use and trouble can just as easily find a kid in Tally, as it will in Miami. In fact, over the last decade, FSU and UF have had more trouble makers and thugs than UM has. But if you were the parent of a kid living in some South Florida hood, what other options do you have? Your first instict is to get them away from the source of the trouble. THat doesnt mean they arent going to find NEW trouble in a place like Tally, but you cant blame the parents for trying to help their kids.

I think its a FAIR discussion to have, but I dont think you can blame the parents here for trying to do what is best for their sons. But I think it is worth debating wether or not it is effective, since in many of these cases, it seems to be a wash, since the kids end up hooking up with another bunch of goons and thugs in places like Tally and Gainsville and with NO supervision, end up getting in trouble there too.

it would help, if you were to have this discussion, to know why his mom wants him away (if that is even true).

The assumption is drugs or gangs? there is an almost infinite amount of reasons and thus impossible to have a proper discussion on the merits without knowing the facts

5Ringz

Dec 11, 2012

Johnothan Franklin

Not even his brother like Keith Brown did for his brother.

****** that don't deserve a D1 scholly shouldn't get one. There are kids hungry for that scholly man.

AlexCane

Dec 11, 2012

CANE4LIFE said:
Ringz, I feel you dude, but I cant agree with you all the way here.

I AGREE that UM itself is probably the best environment for most of these kids. Its a smaller private school, with a much more tight knit family environment, so its harder for kids to get lost in the shuffle or just go crazy in a giant state school environment.

That said, for kids who grew up in the hood, and have issues they need to get away from, Coral Gables is too close for comfort. Its only a matter of time before their goon buddies come to visit them on campus, until they are haning out in the old neighborhood at parties, seeing their old boys, and that is when the trouble starts.

As a parent, you want your kid to have the best chance of getting "out" of those situations, and if that means moving 400 miles away to a new environment where they can shake their old "crew" then many think its the best solution. Now, is it a GREAT solution? No. You are very correct that drug use and trouble can just as easily find a kid in Tally, as it will in Miami. In fact, over the last decade, FSU and UF have had more trouble makers and thugs than UM has. But if you were the parent of a kid living in some South Florida hood, what other options do you have? Your first instict is to get them away from the source of the trouble. THat doesnt mean they arent going to find NEW trouble in a place like Tally, but you cant blame the parents for trying to help their kids.

I think its a FAIR discussion to have, but I dont think you can blame the parents here for trying to do what is best for their sons. But I think it is worth debating wether or not it is effective, since in many of these cases, it seems to be a wash, since the kids end up hooking up with another bunch of goons and thugs in places like Tally and Gainsville and with NO supervision, end up getting in trouble there too.

It's an interesting debate. Because assuming that x recruit needs to leave Miami because of poor choices he has made, i.e., drugs, gangs, bad seeds, etc., it's not like getting recruit to Alaska or Washington is going to make him make better decisions with his life and who he chooses to associate with. This is more of a maturity issue.

Professor Plum

Dec 11, 2012

there gonna be a lot of butthurt when Collins doesn't qualify..

AlexCane

Dec 11, 2012

Also, I presume that Golden does wonders with parents. He genuinely seems like a good dude that probably leaves parents with a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

jmbflame21

Dec 11, 2012

Professor Plum said:
there gonna be a lot of butthurt when Collins doesn't qualify..

This... Lets not forget that he was ineligible his frosh and soph years

CANE4LIFE

Dec 11, 2012

AlexCane said:
CANE4LIFE said:

Ringz, I feel you dude, but I cant agree with you all the way here.

I AGREE that UM itself is probably the best environment for most of these kids. Its a smaller private school, with a much more tight knit family environment, so its harder for kids to get lost in the shuffle or just go crazy in a giant state school environment.

That said, for kids who grew up in the hood, and have issues they need to get away from, Coral Gables is too close for comfort. Its only a matter of time before their goon buddies come to visit them on campus, until they are haning out in the old neighborhood at parties, seeing their old boys, and that is when the trouble starts.

As a parent, you want your kid to have the best chance of getting "out" of those situations, and if that means moving 400 miles away to a new environment where they can shake their old "crew" then many think its the best solution. Now, is it a GREAT solution? No. You are very correct that drug use and trouble can just as easily find a kid in Tally, as it will in Miami. In fact, over the last decade, FSU and UF have had more trouble makers and thugs than UM has. But if you were the parent of a kid living in some South Florida hood, what other options do you have? Your first instict is to get them away from the source of the trouble. THat doesnt mean they arent going to find NEW trouble in a place like Tally, but you cant blame the parents for trying to help their kids.

I think its a FAIR discussion to have, but I dont think you can blame the parents here for trying to do what is best for their sons. But I think it is worth debating wether or not it is effective, since in many of these cases, it seems to be a wash, since the kids end up hooking up with another bunch of goons and thugs in places like Tally and Gainsville and with NO supervision, end up getting in trouble there too.

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It's an interesting debate. Because assuming that x recruit needs to leave Miami because of poor choices he has made, i.e., drugs, gangs, bad seeds, etc., it's not like getting recruit to Alaska or Washington is going to make him make better decisions with his life and who he chooses to associate with. This is more of a maturity issue.

Agreed, and while you are getting them away from the CURRENT bad influences, you could easily be delivering them into just as bad a situation with other trouble makers. Why it COULD be worse, is that they are now VERY far from home, and in these giant state programs where its easy for a kid to just get lose and become another face in the crowd. Couple that with the fact that they now KNOW they are so far from home, and feel like they can do whatever they want, and sometimes it can lead to an even worse situation. One thing UM has going for it, is the smaller, close knit environment.

So its an interesting discussion, because while getting them away in some instances may be the first plan of action most parents would consider, sending them to one of these giant schools so far away, could create just as many problems.

bomb

Dec 11, 2012

FSU and FAMU were both named one of the 25 most crime ridden schools in America.

Tallahassee is where the trouble is.

UM wasn't even on the list and I think it went to 100.

There is a reason they are humorously called the Criminoles. It's because their players are constantly getting arrested and in trouble, as opposed to Miami that has one of the lowest player arrest rates in America.

Miami is a protected private school in one of the most expensive zip codes in America. It's where you send your kid to play big time football, get a top 40 education, and learn and develop in a safe, structured environment.

FSU is where you get arrested and get a worthless circus degree

RiDLer80

Dec 11, 2012

bomb said:
FSU and FAMU were both named one of the 25 most crime ridden schools in America.

Tallahassee is where the trouble is.

UM wasn't even on the list and I think it went to 100.

There is a reason they are humorously called the Criminoles. It's because their players are constantly getting arrested and in trouble, as opposed to Miami that has one of the lowest player arrest rates in America.

Miami is a protected private school in one of the most expensive zip codes in America. It's where you send your kid to play big time football, get a top 40 education, and learn and develop in a safe, structured environment.

FSU is where you get arrested and get a worthless circus degree

Parents are stupid. How can you want your kid to go to FSU especially when the alternative is Miami?

tokengator

Dec 11, 2012

RiDLer80 said:
bomb said:

FSU and FAMU were both named one of the 25 most crime ridden schools in America.

Tallahassee is where the trouble is.

UM wasn't even on the list and I think it went to 100.

There is a reason they are humorously called the Criminoles. It's because their players are constantly getting arrested and in trouble, as opposed to Miami that has one of the lowest player arrest rates in America.

Miami is a protected private school in one of the most expensive zip codes in America. It's where you send your kid to play big time football, get a top 40 education, and learn and develop in a safe, structured environment.

FSU is where you get arrested and get a worthless circus degree

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Parents are stupid. How can you want your kid to go to FSU especially when the alternative is Miami?

where you are both going wrong is assuming why collins mom may want him away from south florida.

1) Collins mom never said she wanted him out of south florida
2) a poster said his mom wants him out of south florida
3) no reason was provided for why she wants him out of south florida

crime and drugs are certainly a reasonable assumption but so are thousands of other possibilities.

crime at FSU vs Miami might have zero to do with it

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